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I'm going to stop using Amazon until they pay their UK dues


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Initial post: 24 Dec 2012 19:00:16 GMT
Peter Ball says:
If Amazon don't pay their UK treasury dues, I will stop using them... Who will back me up on this? Amazon are not always the cheapest...

Posted on 24 Dec 2012 20:49:18 GMT
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Posted on 24 Dec 2012 20:53:34 GMT
Peter Piper says:
Starbucks yes, Amazon no. Amazon have saved me a lot of money over the years, and if they do that by avoiding UK tax, that suits me.

Posted on 24 Dec 2012 21:10:40 GMT
dobbie says:
To be fair if all the big corperates paid thier taxes
Maybe the goverment might not give the hard working man such a hard time

Posted on 24 Dec 2012 21:37:41 GMT
iwannabeme says:
Great idea, lets all stop using the best e-site in the UK. Perhaps switch to the bay with their inconsistent customer service & ridiculous returns policy.

Bet you cant wait for tuesdays sales to start...

Posted on 24 Dec 2012 22:22:03 GMT
Nope - quite happy with getting cheap goods on here thanks!

Posted on 24 Dec 2012 22:45:01 GMT
Mr. R. Nicol says:
Back you up for what?

The fact that they are playing within the rules set by the UK? You seem to forget that Amazon is a business and if it can get away with paying as little tax as legally possible, then I can assure you they will be doing. You also seem to forget the fact that Amazon employ 1000s of employees and require the services of 100s of other businesses to keep the machine going.

Instead of typing guff online, start questioning the government on why they are allowed to do it.

Posted on 24 Dec 2012 23:03:14 GMT
J. Tracey says:
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Posted on 25 Dec 2012 00:18:26 GMT
patsy says:
They are abiding by the rules set by politicians so what's the problem! They're not breaking the law.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2012 00:19:20 GMT
Last edited by the author on 25 Dec 2012 00:21:25 GMT
patsy says:
Tracey, Stupid comment!

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2012 00:39:09 GMT
Savvy says:
I don't care if Amazon or Starbucks don't pay enough taxes here. As people worry about such nonsensical matters, the government is wasting billions of pounds on useless ventures like investing £1.2billion on a new submarine:

http://www.govopps.co.uk/mod-award-1-2bn-contract-for-new-attack-submarine/

It's time to stop focussing on the pennies and concentrate on the pounds instead.

Amazon has saved me loads of money in the past and I will continue using it forever - I don't care what taxes they pay or not, what they sell saves me money and that is all I care about. Even if Amazon did pay more taxes, it would be wasted by our government anyways, I would never see a penny of it. Get real.

Posted on 25 Dec 2012 00:42:14 GMT
What are you - 8 year old? Facebook paid roughly about 1.2 mil off their 800 odd mil profit this year (UK alone). Google pretty much does the same. If it bothers you this much, you should stop using facebook & google until they pay their dues. Why just single out Amazon?

Posted on 25 Dec 2012 00:43:56 GMT
at least amazon pass the savings from the tax onto the customer

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2012 01:02:45 GMT
Techie-nanny says:
Well I have used Amazon for years I cant get out to get things and they been very good and most understanding, never mind if they are not always the cheapest the service is good and the customer help is always there, no machines ect, and its not really my bisiness who pays what to who, as the other poster says get a life mate, and whatever happened to christmas spirit tut.

Posted on 25 Dec 2012 01:15:23 GMT
Last edited by the author on 25 Dec 2012 01:20:29 GMT
If there was a perfectly legal way to pay less income tax would you honestly choose to pay more? Amazon provides a good service and contributes to the economy in many ways. I don't get your problem here Peter.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2012 03:09:25 GMT
Bob Landy says:
You do that.

Posted on 25 Dec 2012 03:25:04 GMT
nk99 says:
I'm not going to stop using Amazon, because they are at least passing some of that saving onto the customer, but I would like to see the government taking action on this across the board with large companies in general. Obviously businesses are going to want to make as much money as possible, and that's how our economy works, but in the last few decades the pendulum of economic policy in this country has swung very sharply towards letting companies get away with pretty much anything they like, and I do think it's about time we had a government that was willing to push it back in the other direction a little. As others have said, it's politicians who are allowing companies to pay less than they could - you can't really blame Amazon for taking advantage of an opportunity to save money, because nobody enjoys paying taxes.

It's a bit fruitless even posting a ''let's avoid Amazon'' thread on here because anyone reading it is likely to already be a loyal Amazon customer and so need a lot of convincing to stop using the site, but I do think some people on here are a little naive - big companies that avoid their taxes cause the rest of us to pay higher taxes and suffer poorer public services, and the idea that we should all turn a blind eye and be grateful because they are ''contributing to the economy'' verges on corporate propaganda. These companies are lining their own pockets - there's nothing wrong with that, but let's stop pretending they're doing us all a big favour by allowing us to give them our money. Any saving passed on to us is a side-effect of their profits, a calculated business tactic to ultimately gain more money in the long run.

In any case, I often find competing websites cheaper than Amazon anyway - it's on delivery times and customer service that Amazon truly stands out - so it's not that difficult to avoid them if you're willing to wait a couple of extra days for your delivery.

Posted on 25 Dec 2012 09:02:19 GMT
Last edited by the author on 25 Dec 2012 09:18:20 GMT
Terrybull says:
At the end of the day it's a business and it wouldn't be in business if it couldn't make money. If they had to pay huge amounts of tax, who is that going to be passed on to, us, the consumer who is always crying about high prices anyway. You can't have the best of both worlds. I own a business and pay tax. I pay tax at the petrol pump. I pay tax at the till. I think I pay enough tax. Why would I want to pay more to amazon. If companies are smart enough to start a business in another country where taxes are lapse then good for them. Smart business. The government needs to look at immigration benefits and other spending to save money.

Posted on 25 Dec 2012 09:13:42 GMT
They are not the only ones. This country has one of the most complicated tax systems in the world, so much so that even accountants can only just about understand some of it. Now that of course is quite ridiculous and I am an accountant. The politicians of all parties refuse to do anything about it even though they could so it is no surprise that businesses find ways to avoid tax - don't blame Amazon or anyone else for that matter.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2012 10:48:51 GMT
MartinD says:
So they don't pay taxes. That is not illegal so what is your problem? I have bought from Amazon for years and shall continue to do so! Item costs £47 in the shops and the same item £20 on Amazon. Guess where I got it from!

Posted on 25 Dec 2012 10:50:41 GMT
Why is everyone jumping on the media bandwagon over tax avoidance? None of the companies involved, Facebook, Google, Amazon, Starbucks, etc. have been fiddling the taxman. They have all paid the required amount of corporation tax. The problem, which has been blown out of proportion, is the fact it is legal to register your business in a lower tax region, such as Ireland or the Channel Islands. It is legal. There is no law against it. What's interesting is that Asda, Sainsburys, Tesco, HMV, Zavvi, Game, and many others, all have separate companies registered in Jersey & Guernsey to avoid paying tax. You don't see them in the news though do you? It's always the big American companies that appear to be the bad guys when in fact they're innocent. If the laws changed to make this practice illegal then fine, but currently none of these companies are breaking a single law.

Lets be honest, if you run your own business and your accountant suggests setting up a bank account or registering your business in another country to save tax, you'd thank him for it, but if its a big company doing it, suddenly everyone thinks its immoral and illegal!

Get a grip people. All these companies pay their VAT and usual taxes. It's only corporation tax that we' talking about and until the European Parliament changes the banking/business laws there's nothing to whine about.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2012 10:58:51 GMT
Chalde says:
Nah! Starbucks yeh. They're rubbish. You can't tell me Amazon are rubbish - and they can be paid without the dreadful "paypal"... so thank God for Amazon.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2012 11:02:21 GMT
Chalde says:
Nah. Starbucks, yeh. Who wants to drink that puke. But Amazon are good. You don't have to use the dreadful "paypal" and Amazon offer an excellent service. Good luck to them - it's the governments fault - just like most things.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2012 11:04:11 GMT
FUS RO DAH says:
they should tax the rich, they earn more than normal people and those rich bastards complain why they have to pay tax more than normal people do

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Dec 2012 11:08:22 GMT
S. Crabtree says:
Can anyone recommend a good alternative Internet supplier? If large corporations avoid tax then the rest of us have to pay more tax.
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