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Posted on 21 May 2012 01:13:15 BDT
Hi Patricia,
Hope you are still keeping well?
You've raised some very interesting points - I'd love to chat with you
but I'm completely shattered so off to bed.
Just popped in though to say - "Night-Night, Sleep-Tight!"
xsuzysunshine7x

Posted on 21 May 2012 16:23:29 BDT
The Falklands are as far from Argentina as the UK is from Belgium, Argentina has no right to claim the Falklands as The UK has no right to Belgium. Leave it to the Inhabitants who 100% want to remain British.

In reply to an earlier post on 21 May 2012 19:19:50 BDT
When the Union Flag is flown on a jackstaff (on board a ship) is is correctly called the "Union Jack".

Posted on 22 May 2012 16:27:54 BDT
Why were you looking for a nazi flag anyway?

Posted on 22 May 2012 18:58:10 BDT
jaws says:
so should we ban a solid red flag the sign of extream left wing or a pirate flag ???? get a grip people and move in your life. you can not ban or remove a political flag, argument or speech by doing so you become a NAZI yourself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! freedom of speech and opinion is what a free world is about and were still not there yet ...............................

In reply to an earlier post on 22 May 2012 19:10:12 BDT
Just as I was thinking it was safe to get back into the water (j/k) Jaws comes up - with an excellent point IMnsHO your post is so much in need of posting on a few forums

Posted on 22 May 2012 20:26:11 BDT
A Wood says:
Great discussion by the way. Just felt I needed to add, the Swastika was totally the national flag of Grossdeutches Reich (Read: Germany between 1933-1945). People would know this though if they actually read up on such things.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 May 2012 21:22:53 BDT
C. M. Devlin says:
Actually the Union Flag is flown when on land (eg above Buckingham Palace when Queenie is in residence)...The Union Jack is a real flag and it represents sailing ships at sea...Both flags are representative of the British but the name and flag differ depending on it placement

In reply to an earlier post on 22 May 2012 22:41:26 BDT
Samantha says:
obviously they dont considering the response but I do realise it and I wholeheartedly agree with you. Mankind constantly encroaching on territory that is not theirs, bp spilling gazillions every year and the US government covering it all up (all the spill that are done over there anyway) and the small statistics they do release are only the smallest part but they are already shocking in their volume. I look forward to the day petrol is gone, but then it will be those awful electric cars that will knock everybody down because we wont hear them coming

In reply to an earlier post on 23 May 2012 11:26:42 BDT
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Posted on 23 May 2012 11:41:15 BDT
Last edited by the author on 23 May 2012 11:43:26 BDT
I honestly don't think the Union Jack can be compared to the Nazi flag whatsoever- the connotations are far to extreme in so many countries. No country is perfect, however such a horror will always be regarded as one of the worst acts of sheer madness, including others such as 9/11. If ours had such bad associations to other countries why is it we have such a diverse society? If it was that badly thought of, surely people from so many varying cultures wouldn't come and live here? As for the Nazi flag itself, it is needed for education purposes and we cannot shelter children from this, however, if the context of the consumption is for propaganda purposes, I believe it should then be removed.

Posted on 23 May 2012 12:20:01 BDT
Last edited by the author on 23 May 2012 12:21:07 BDT
I am sad - PJM I came back to reply to your post - and it had gone Miss J.E.E. - there comes - sometimes a moment when the lunatics seem to be taking over the asylum

<<As for the Nazi flag itself, it is needed for education purposes and we cannot shelter children from this, however, if the context of the consumption is for propaganda purposes, I believe it should then be removed>>

This point - strikes me as completely irrefutable this is why I commented in an earlier post that some of the flags were great 5' by 8' - a small flag is suitable enough for teaching - with the Tutor keeping an open mind when describing - Naziism is a political phenomenon that appealed to peoples' baser instincts it was a principle of Genocide justified on the flimsiest of excuses - and young children need not be exposed to it - it it a principle that need not be mentioned - excepting at Secondary School Level or University level - it is an emotional subject - and teaching should be basically an objective subject - this might be perhaps a subject for a very experienced Tutor in Ethics / Politics - and - NO I see no excuse for selling them - excepting Amazon are being generous in catering for all sorts and conditions of people - right - lunch is ready - must go

Posted on 23 May 2012 13:19:30 BDT
Sorry, I totally agree, when I was referring to children I meant pre 16, secondary school level; it is unnecessary for Primary school children to know about such things.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 May 2012 13:38:34 BDT
Excellent - I might have known it - we are indeed singing from the same Hymn Sheet.

I was in discussion with a friend just the other day - on the subject of Charisma. and became irritated by his insisting that Mr. A. Hitler was a charismatic Character, I saw no use at all for the application of the word - until I lightheartedly submitted to a lecture on the idea of using Charisma for ill; as well as for good.
He would not let it go and pointed out the Charismatic personalities that were the perpetrators of some of the most heinous of crimes, quite a few !!

Posted on 23 May 2012 13:49:10 BDT
Mozza says:
Whether people are offended depends entirely on their feelings about the situation.
You might have an example where an Irish person has laughed at your Irish joke, or a person with red hair has been in stitches at your hilarious ginger joke, but for every one of those, there's the same amount of people who go away upset and offended, because you bravely "say it how it is, and no-one will stop you"
If you've been victimised because of your colour, or religion, or sexuality or sex or anything, and it hurt you, and made you feel bad, then people have no right to do it. They have no right to make people feel bad. Let them live their lives, and you concentrate on yours.

The Nazi flag might be legitimate for other causes - I'm sure it is - but frankly, does anyone feel strong enough about whatever cause that is to start waving a flag that commonly represented such abhorrently bad views, and supported a ethos that thought it ok to cleanse a generation of people that weren't like them, that they feel they need to make a point?
Make a point about freedom of speech by supporting the Tibetans, or suppressed women in certain religions, but don't use this one to do it. It's not clever, it's making a point for a points sake.

I balance this though with a more specific point. Communist symbology is seen as cool. I'll bet if you look around Amazon you'll find pictures of Che Guevara and Mao. Even Pizza Hut used communist style 'clenched fists in the air' and back to front "R"'s in a advert once. Well let me tell you - those lot were guilty of doing a good number of people in - maybe more than the Nazi party in Germany.

Posted on 23 May 2012 14:17:22 BDT
You might have an example where an Irish person has laughed at your Irish joke, or a person with red hair has been in stitches at your hilarious ginger joke, but for every one of those, there's the same amount of people who go away upset and offended, because you bravely "say it how it is, and no-one will stop you"

Excellently said PJM - I wonder why you deleted that other post - I feel sure you had something to say - to add to the discussion - I am if anything criticizing Amazon for what I believe is bad taste in simply selling the stuff as for making a point for point's sake - no sir - my point is to criticize Amazon for stocking those flags - sure - only bought by a minority but I honestly think there is no good reason for selling them - IF on the other hand you see any words in my post that speak of support for the Nazi Regime - please won't you point them out..

<<<Make a point about freedom of speech by supporting the Tibetans, or suppressed women in certain religions, but don't use this one to do it. It's not clever, it's making a point for a points sake>>>

PJM I have nothing but criticism for any one selling the flags and to your remark here quoted I take exception

In reply to an earlier post on 23 May 2012 14:21:32 BDT
Last edited by the author on 23 May 2012 14:25:42 BDT
Mozza says:
Ms E - I aimed none of that at you. I realised when I read it back that I didn't put a target on my "you" finger pointing. It wasn't at anyone in particular on here, it was aimed at the people who think fighting for a Nazi flag is fighting for freedom of speech, which is, not to put to fine a point on it, balls!

But now you're here, Ms E, what do you think about the Che Guavara and Mao stuff? There's a lot of communist material about, and I say this as a bit of a lefty myself - that was just as dangerous!

Posted on 23 May 2012 14:37:38 BDT
Wow, this is watching Wimbledon!
I'm so glad this is all being written down so I can keep up!
You are certainly right Pj, I think every student a few years back had a Che Guevara poster as standard on their walls but I'm afraid that any details of that period of history passed me by. I shall make time to google that too.

I'm getting very confused over our flag being or not being a Union Jack though?
It's amazing how stimulating these forums can be - my brain is fizzing away with so many thoughts and opinions right now!

Am I also allowed a little divertion from topic? - just for a minute?
Anybody else out there with a tear in their eye and a lump in their throat, watching the Olympic Torch relay?
I am not particularly patriotic, or a devout monarchist either, but I feel pretty proud of our Country today! :o>

Posted on 23 May 2012 14:51:30 BDT
Oh squirrels, I forgot to say Pj -
What I was getting at before was that I personally feel that The Falklands Islands should be in the hands of any country who is or would be prepared to spend enough money, time, and effort restoring and protecting it - especially for the wildlife's sake.

It seems so shameful to me, for us to fight to the death over them, yet then clearly fail in our duty of care. x

Posted on 23 May 2012 14:56:44 BDT
Last edited by the author on 23 May 2012 14:58:30 BDT
Yes indeed - posting after - does not mean posting AT thanks for 'splaining your point - but I have climbed out the perambulator and gone to fetch Teddy from where I had thrown him - I have not been taking my objectivity medication - thanks !! PJM
Suzy - that is a good point too - we should keep an eye on them For SURE

In reply to an earlier post on 23 May 2012 15:15:11 BDT
Mozza says:
Suzy,I went on a rant about wild life, etc, and how us humans only worry about the animals we think are cute etc, as you might have seen, but it was ridiculously off subject, so I deleted it, not wanting to take away from any other points on here!

Posted on 23 May 2012 15:35:13 BDT
I know! Hee, Hee!
My Inbox may spam but it never lies!

I'm no animal activist, Pj. I just found the reality of what is happening to such innocent creatures, who have no choice but to depend on the goodwill of our species for their very lives really depressing.
Same as in war zones - we never think of the animals do we? Not even the pets equally traumatised, often hurt and also abandoned.
I'm actually an anti-church-going yet devout Roman Catholic with a Buddhist soft centre!
x PEACE x

In reply to an earlier post on 23 May 2012 17:53:51 BDT
That sounds like a delightful Chocolate bar that would be a nice milk chocolate over an Apricot centre - because of the colour of the Tibetan Robes.
For myself very dark chocolate with a mystic flavour - being Heathen / Goth-Elder and the soft centre would be - the smoothest vanilla cream - for the shape of your chocolate a cup, mine would be a bat - because Goths love the little Bu&&ers.
PJM has no centre - he is a solid milk chocolate Teddy Bear

In reply to an earlier post on 23 May 2012 18:18:39 BDT
Mozza says:
Ha! Not the first time I've been called a big teddy bear! Usually based on furryness and height though!
What a strange route this conversation has taken.I was waiting for the haters, and got called a soft furry toy!

Posted on 23 May 2012 18:24:39 BDT
You do realise that all this page will be blanked out by some horrible blankety-blank by tomorrow?!

Probably by someone who came in here thinking it was a very good place to buy a 'Nazi' flag !!!

And I'm going to get told off again for using Amazon like facebook!

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