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Initial post: 11 Nov 2011 10:27:39 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Nov 2011 23:29:28 GMT
gille liath says:
Has there ever been anything so massively hyped and so eagerly awaited, which was such a disappointment? The Liam Neeson routine was ok, though it had nothing to do with the rest of the show; other than that, the very average 'Rev' was probably funnier. They only seem to be able to write one character: Warwick Davis opens his mouth, but all I can hear is Ricky Gervais.

And is it such a great idea having no laughter track? At least if you have one, and the show isn't funny, it must be hard to hide from the fact.

Anybody out there?

Posted on 16 Nov 2011 10:42:43 GMT
Sou'Wester says:
I haven't seen "Life's Too Short", not being a massive fan of Gervaise. However, one point on which I think he is to be applauded is in excluding laughter tracks, which I absolutely loathe and are the ruination of many a TV comedy. Years ago, one of the reasons I used to enjoy "MASH" on the BBC was that it was one of the few shows without canned laughter; I then saw an episode as shown in the U.S. with laughter track added and it was ghastly.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Nov 2011 17:47:59 GMT
Im sorry you didn't enjoy it after all the hype. That can be very disapointing I know. I found it funny and enjoyed it, but not sure if it will last the whole way through the run, as there wasn't a lot of story, so if its just Warwick Davis going to see Gervais and Merchant with celebs dropping in, it might get old quickly.

I agree with you that Warwick Davis's delivery was very 'Gervais-esuqe', and it was a jarring to say the least. Maybe its the righting or the direction, or maybe its just Daivis's style?

Personally I dislike laugher tracks, and if I remember correctly (correct me if Im wrong) neither the Office or Extras used one.

Posted on 17 Nov 2011 03:39:50 GMT
I enjoyed it. Although i did wish that there was something going on throughout the episode, hopefully this will improve in the coming episodes.
I never took to Gervais in his earlier days, but my brother convinced me to watch an episode of extra's and i really enjoyed it, it is very cleverly written, i think a lot of what Warrick had to say you could just see Ricky saying it, Although i enjoyed it the Liam Neeson cameo was a little bit pointless, i think it was only to show that he was in it and such maybe to help boost the ratings.
But overall i found it funny

Posted on 20 Nov 2011 09:10:11 GMT
Here's the problem for me: The cameos are great - Depp was hilarious, really. I don't want to like, because it is (obviously) a one joke show -and I'm starting to feel that the 'real' RG is a nasty intollerant snide who gets away with a double bluff in comedy. We'll only know when someone finds his secret diaries and 'The Life of' is dramatised on Beeb 4. Mind you, I've been to Reading - and it wasn't funny -so perhaps it's a single bluff after all...

Posted on 23 Nov 2011 10:14:23 GMT
gille liath says:
Sou'wester, Mr Dyett,
I understand the thinking behind not having laughter tracks, and why Gervais thinks they're passe, but it's mainly a fashion thing - most of the great comedies, including Python, Fawlty and Partridge have had them. I think *not* having one works well for some shows, including (as you say) Gervais' previous efforts, and also Peep Show. But the danger is, not having anyone there to laugh, you don't feel under any pressure to be funny - eg Him & Her (in fact almost any BBC3 comedy). And, for me personally, Life's Too Short has fallen into that trap. If anything the second episode was weaker than the first - again, the celeb cameo was ok but not hilarious, the rest pretty much a write-off.

Posted on 23 Nov 2011 10:35:04 GMT
Nugent Dirt says:
I agree with you gille. Having enjoyed both The Office and Extras (am I untrendy for not putting the boot into RG?) I was expecting great things. It's not bad by any stretch but WD is just a Mini Brent

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Nov 2011 10:45:05 GMT
gille liath says:
Mm. Untrendy? I don't know - I liked both of those, especially Extras (The Office slightly overrated for me), and I think opinion over here is still behind him. But the tide might turn now. There comes a point where someone is so successful and ubiquitous, people become sick of the sight of them; and then if they don't produce the goods...[throat-slitting noise]

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Nov 2011 10:51:01 GMT
Last edited by the author on 23 Nov 2011 11:01:12 GMT
gille liath says:
I think your assessment of RG's personality - double bluff - is absolutely right. He's David Brent, except that he has enough self-awareness to know it. But I don't mind that - I don't have to live with him - as long as he's funny.

Saying that, it is interesting how large issues of prejudice loom in his stuff - more so, you feel, than if he was just laughing at it without being personally engaged. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, I guess he's using comedy to try and work out feelings which, he'd say, are common to a lot of people.

Btw, I suppose it should be said that, in all the above, 'Ricky Gervais' really means 'Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant'.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Nov 2011 11:05:40 GMT
Last edited by the author on 23 Nov 2011 11:06:00 GMT
Nugent Dirt says:
Not so sure as while a lot of people seem to dislike RG I have'nt read a bad word about SM. My guess is he's one of those rare people nearly everyone likes

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Nov 2011 11:07:12 GMT
RAB says:
It's the West Country accent and friendly demeanour that does that I reckon.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Nov 2011 11:09:15 GMT
Last edited by the author on 23 Nov 2011 11:11:28 GMT
gille liath says:
He's a bit like the Engels in 'Marx'n'Engels', isn't he? The 'other one' who nobody knows anything about. Or Andrew Ridgeley.

You might be right but, as he has co-credit for all the writing, you have to assume his preoccupations are similar to Gervais'. Maybe he's just a bit nicer about it.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Nov 2011 11:11:04 GMT
gille liath says:
Proper job!

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Nov 2011 11:13:20 GMT
RAB says:

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Nov 2011 11:31:05 GMT
gille liath says:
Is that not a hallowed West-Country saying?

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Nov 2011 11:39:42 GMT
RAB says:
Wouldn't know, I'm not from the West Country.

Posted on 24 Nov 2011 23:12:18 GMT
Bubbles says:
The Office set such high standards, that it took me a little while to warm to Extras. Once I DID get into Extras though, I felt it was actually BETTER than The Office. I can say for sure already, however, there will be NO "Warming" to "Life's too short" !
Tonight's episode was mind numbingly dull, & frankly, quite embarassing to watch. Take it off air now, as far as I'm concerned.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Nov 2011 10:17:21 GMT
gille liath says:
I wouldn't go as far as that. As you say, we're comparing it to high standards, and it falls short. But it's still got to be better than I'm a Celebrity, Living With the Amish or - insult of insults - The Manor Reborn. That really is plumbing new depths. How does putting Penelope Keith into yet another boring restoration show, and naming it after her old sitcom, make it primetime BBC1 viewing?

And in fact, I found the 3rd ep of LTS *slightly* funnier - but still not great.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Nov 2011 10:45:22 GMT
Bubbles says:
You're talking about different league moron TV, Gille. Nobody with an IQ above single figures would actually watch, "I'm a celebrity" or "The Manor Reborn". Gervais himself claims to be a perfectionist, & this clearly shows in The Office & Extras. (The Extras xmas special was brilliant). However, I remain puzzled as to why Gervais & Merchant allowed this embarassing low-brow nonsense to reach our screens. In light of Gervais' poor stand up concert last year, & Merchant's dismal effort this year, (Dvd released for xmas BEFORE the actual tour is finished), I can only conclude that their desire for money is rather clouding their previously better judgement.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Nov 2011 11:47:22 GMT
gille liath says:
Well, we're talking about what we'd have had to watch if we weren't watching LTS! I don't mind a bit of I'm a Celeb, actually...there, I said it.

I'm sure Gervais & Merchant have done the best they can, and perhaps they can't actually tell that it doesn't meet their own standards. These things go in cycles, don't they - it may very well be that they - like Simon Pegg after the awful How To Lose Friends and Paul - are on the down-curve.

Posted on 27 Nov 2011 12:51:14 GMT
Last edited by the author on 27 Nov 2011 12:52:24 GMT
mister joe says:
That Gervais is so in thrall to Larry David,but in a way i suppose that is not exactly an insult.I did cry with laughter at Liam Neeson scene..."i have aids".I do not even know why that tickled my funny bone so much.The last few episodes have been so,so.
I get a bit tired of the star cameos.I did not think Depp was funny at all.I chuckled when Warwicke was placed in a bin but i do find myself getting all p.c.I do not really want to laugh at his size,i geniunely do not find that funny.
I think his brain dead assistant puts in a good performance.I feel it lacks in a believable realism that would compound the cringe momments more effectively.They need to take it down a notch or two.
All the asides about snatching kids seems forced.Larry David has a beautiful knack of manipulating the incidental.
Ultimately though Gervais is more interesting then the rest of the insipid,dullard conveyer belt comedians that clog up gameshows or Dave.Along with Sacha Baran Cohen he is the only british comedian waving the flag.Rather this then the parachial grange hill with tourettes Inbetweeners.Lame.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Nov 2011 16:51:10 GMT
Bubbles says:
Spot on mister joe ! The Johnny Depp scenes have been embarassing. Depp even seemed nervous in the first one, sitting opposite Gervais

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Nov 2011 22:44:49 GMT
Last edited by the author on 27 Nov 2011 22:48:22 GMT
Lexie says:
Hi Gille liath
Proper job: West Country saying?, it's not. Well, not from the West Country I'm from!

Posted on 27 Nov 2011 23:29:11 GMT
mister joe says:
Let me say now i watch X Factor,I'm A Celeb and Big Brother.I also read a lot.It is lame to insult mainstream tv and it in no way reflects a persons intelligence.I love trash culture.In times of reccesion,cheap morality people need to switch their facebooked,info overloaded brains off.Watching a coackroach going up Fattima Whitbread's nose for me is just as valid as reading Michel Houellebeqs latest novel.I gave up being a snob years ago and fully embrace moronic mediocrity.
Gillie you have nothing to apologise about!

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Nov 2011 00:00:23 GMT
Bubbles says:
Like I said, "Nobody with an IQ above single figures would actually watch, "I'm a celebrity".
mister joe, take note. Enough said.
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