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One Symphony Aloud Only


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Initial post: 6 Jul 2012 21:38:56 BDT
JayJayDee says:
Prompted by the 'Dullest' thread where fellow contributors have stated a rather muted preference for some works generally believed as Classic, which single symphony by the major symphonic composers would you have if only allowed one symphony (or opera where relevant) by each - as in the desert island scenario?

I'll kick off with:-

Beethoven - Eroica (not the 9th)
and
Dvorak - 8th (not the 9th)

Posted on 6 Jul 2012 22:24:45 BDT
MacDoom says:
Bruckner 8. About the longest to play, which is nice in a desert island situation. I really prefer the 6th by a whisker, but 20 minutes more before the whole thing repeats must count for something.
Schubert 9.

Posted on 6 Jul 2012 23:11:04 BDT
Shostakovich - his 8th. Or maybe his 10th? Oh, God - now look what you've started...

Posted on 6 Jul 2012 23:38:43 BDT
Malx says:
Mahler 2, although I'm not too sure which Mahler symphony would be regarded as the "classic".
Tchaikovsky 5 rather than 6.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jul 2012 00:17:34 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 Jul 2012 21:52:42 BDT
Edgar Self says:
Haydn - 31st "Horn Signal"
Mehul - First G-minor
Bruckner - Fourth
Mahler - Second "Resurrection"
Dvorak - Ninth "New World"
Brahms - Fourth
Schumann - Fourth
Mendelssohn - Third "Scottish"
Shostakovich - Fourth
Mozart - 39th
Schubert - Ninth
Tchaikovsky - Fifth
Beethoven - Third "Eroica"
Braga-Santos - Third
Sibelius - First (Had him in here once but he must have fallen out)

Posted on 7 Jul 2012 00:36:23 BDT
Lez Lee says:
Beethoven - 7
Brahms - 4
Dvorak - 8
Ross Edwards - 1
Glass - 4
Mahler - 1
Mozart - 40
Prokofiev - 1
Rachmaninov - 2
Schubert - 4
Shostakovitch - 5
Tchaikovsky - 5
Vaughan Williams - 2

Posted on 7 Jul 2012 05:55:57 BDT
JayJayDee says:
Some interesting choices here, and I admit my ignorance of those by Edwards, Glass or Mehul.
I'll add my support to Piso's choices for Mahler, Brahms, Mendelssohn, Shostakovich, Tchaikovsky and Schubert;
differ on Haydn (spoilt for choice) and go for L'imperiale (53).
Agree with MacD on Bruckner.
Agree with Lez on Rachmaninov, but go for Prokofiev 6th and Vaughan Williams 6th and Mozart 38.
Also would add Holmboe Sinfonia Boreale (8)
Nobody mentioned Sibelius (whose Sixth) has haunted me since hearing a BBC Northern RSO broadcast in the late sixties.

In fact - if I was only allowed one number to cover any symphonist (a ridiculous scenario I grant!) I'd go for Number 6 in all composers (even though it disqualifies many who never got beyond 5).

As a subsidiary question can anyone elaborate on why some of these choices have been made, especially when the decision was a 'touch and go' one. For example I'd go for Mahler 2 over Mahler 9 (definitely a marginal decision) because the Resurrection was the first L_O_N_G symphony I ever got to know absolutely thoroughly.

Posted on 7 Jul 2012 09:22:10 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 Jul 2012 09:25:16 BDT
WHAT a splendid idea for a thread.

Mozart - 39 (though, if I were choosing individual movements instead, I'd go for the finale of the "Jupiter")
Haydn - 87
Beethoven - 7
Schubert - 5
Mendelssohn - 4
Brahms - 3
Dvorak - 9
Elgar - 1
Vaughan Williams - 5
Rachmaninov - 2
Balakirev - 1
Kalinnikov - 1
Tchaikovsky - 2
Sibelius - 2
Rott - no prizes for guessing!

In each case the reason why is simple. These are the ones I enjoy the most by their respective composers (the Rott symphony being a special case because it's a singleton). No musicological or other judgments which appeal to the head rather than the heart are anywhere near as significant for me.

Posted on 7 Jul 2012 10:47:13 BDT
I agree with JJD as far as Beethoven is concerned, it would have to be the Eroica (E Kleiber/VPO). As for other composers it would be difficult. With Mozart it would probably be The Magic Flute (after a lot heart-searching) and Brahms not a symphony but his Clarinet Quintet.

Posted on 7 Jul 2012 11:42:37 BDT
Lez Lee says:
Oh dear, how could I forget Sibelius?
Definitely No. 2.

Posted on 7 Jul 2012 11:45:23 BDT
Last edited by the author on 7 Jul 2012 11:46:54 BDT
JayJayDee says:
Aww c'mon, LOL. ...operas are only 'aloud' when the composer is almost exclusively operatic e.g Puccini (Turandot), Verdi (?), Wagner (Rheingold).
I admit I should be on the 'Famous Bits' thread when talking of opera...I really find it hard to take more than a few minutes of vibrato. And, honest - hand on heart, I have tried.

Will add Myaskovsky - 23rd (which is really a Suite),
Nielsen Espansiva (3)
Schumann - 3
Stravinsky - In Three Movements, and
Scriabin - 1.

Posted on 8 Jul 2012 13:49:27 BDT
Roasted Swan says:
Walton 1
Elgar 2
RVW 3
Nielsen 4
Sibelius 5
Tchaikovsky 6
Bax 7
Bruckner 8
Arnold 9
Shostakovich 10

a tad contrived but valid from my point of view

Posted on 8 Jul 2012 14:58:10 BDT
Androcleas says:
Shostakovich 4
RVW 5
Mahler 5
Sibelius 7
Nielsen 6
Pettersson 6
G. Popov 1
Bruckner 8 - (or 9 if I'm allowed one of the completed versions)
Beethoven 8
Weinberg 12

I'm sure there would be more if I thought about it longer!

Posted on 8 Jul 2012 15:13:20 BDT
Last edited by the author on 8 Jul 2012 15:13:44 BDT
Bach: 3rd Orchestral Suite
Haydn: 85 , The Queen of France
Mozart: 41, Jupiter
Beethoven: 7
Tchaikovsky: 4
Schubert: 5
Brahms: 1
Nielsen: 3, Espensiva
S. Reich: Music for 18 Musicians
Glass: Glassworks

Sorry, a few of these aren't symphonies.

Posted on 8 Jul 2012 16:35:58 BDT
Roasted Swan says:
do you know Nielsen follow-up symphony No.7 'the cheapaschipsova'

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jul 2012 18:15:57 BDT
Last edited by the author on 8 Jul 2012 18:16:12 BDT
yes, Nick - with the current economic crisis effecting Danish budgets I hear it all the time...

(I will leave the mispelling unedited, so people can have a laugh)

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jul 2012 18:44:20 BDT
MacDoom says:
And kudos for mispelling!

Posted on 8 Jul 2012 19:00:32 BDT
Last edited by the author on 8 Jul 2012 22:18:54 BDT
Edgar Self says:
Now behave, MacDoom, mis-spelling mispelling doesn't count. Besides, the time is out of joint in Denmark as everyone knows, and something's rotten there. Oh, that Rasmus (or Wouter) was ever born to set it right ... The fault, you see, is not with our stars, but with ourselves. And that's enough mis-quotations for one morning.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jul 2012 22:02:37 BDT
Tonight I stumbled upon this poem by the American childrens' poet Shel Silverstein about misspelling which I thought I should share considering the turn this thread has taken:

IMPORTNT?

Said little a to big G,
"without me,
the sea would be
the se,
the flea would be
fle.
and earth and heaven couldn't be
without me."
said big G to little a,
"even the se
could crsh nd spry,
nd the fle would fly
in the sme old wy,
nd erth nd heven still would be,
without thee."
~Shel Silverstein

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jul 2012 22:51:32 BDT
MacDoom says:
Very nice!

I hope you - and others - did not read my post as pedantic criticism. I thought it was on purpose, and liked it a lot if it was. If it wasn't, I'd better have kept my big mouth shut...

A typical case of 'Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses', I'm afraid (a nice one to have handy, by the way, especially when asked to explain!). And a generous portion of mea culpa added for good measure.

Posted on 9 Jul 2012 09:53:27 BDT
Mondoro says:
In fact the omission of letters - usually through mistyping -is all too easy on a laptop.

Anyway:
Dvorak's 7th rather the 8th (a bit too cozy) & 9th (not as well-structured)
RVW 6th
Brahms 4
Beethoven 3
Mozart Jupiter
Nielsen 4
Schumann 4
Mahler 9
Bruckner 9
Schubert 8
DSCH 4
Walton 1
Elgar 2
Arnold 5
Alwyn 3
Rubbra 5
Haydn 44
Vanhal g2
Petterson 6
Sibelius 5
Bax 6
Tchaikovsky 6
Rachmaninov 1
Prokofiev 3

Posted on 9 Jul 2012 14:20:00 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 Jul 2012 14:22:05 BDT
JayJayDee says:
Wow.
What a vote of support for DSCH 4.
He would be truly delighted!
A lesson for us all. Vindication may not come in our own lifetime!

My guess is that Mondoro also has the Ashkenazy Rachmaninov 1.
It is fabulous!

Looks like I've gotta check out Pettersson, damnit!
Forgot Madetoja 2, though
Madetoja: Orchestral Works

Posted on 9 Jul 2012 15:26:46 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 Jul 2012 15:27:20 BDT
Paul B says:
Good to see others also like Rachmaninov 1 best like me. The Ashkenazy is fabulous, as is the Jansons in a slightly less luxuriant way.

Also nice to see Haydn in several lists. Presumably people feel the need for something cheerful and optimistic amongst all the gloom. It would be No. 96 for me. 'Miracle' by name and miracle by nature.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jul 2012 16:09:43 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 Jul 2012 18:32:53 BDT
enthusiast says:
This list is filled with regrets for those I cannot include. I have marked the ones I found it too difficult to select just one with a *. Even then I suspect that on a different day I would choose differently ...

Mozart - 35*
Haydn - 103*
Beethoven - 3
Berlioz - Fantastique
Brahms - 3
Dvorak - 8
Bizet - in C
Schubert - 9*
Schumann - 4*
Saint-Saens - in F (Urbs Roma)
Bruckner - 5*
Mahler - 9
Tchaikovsky - 5
Scriabin - 3
Elgar - 2*
Nielsen - 5
Sibelius - 5*
Rachmaninov - 3
Shostakovich - 4*
Prokofiev - 6
Rautavaara - 7
Martinu - 4
Honegger - 3
Stravinsky - ... Of Psalms
RVW - 6*
Tubin - 6
Rubbra - 9*
Lutoslawski - 3
Holmboe - 5*
Walton - 1 (obviously)
Schnittke - 5
Tippett - 4
Dutilleux - 1

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jul 2012 16:11:26 BDT
Last edited by the author on 9 Jul 2012 16:13:38 BDT
lensmaker says:
Just one for Berlioz. very sad.
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