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Initial post: 27 Apr 2013 11:42:17 BDT
broxi3781 says:
This may well be deleted as authors are not meant to self promote here - but most do anyway. I know amazon has a special thread for authors, but no one visits except authors. Sadly because authors posts keep bringing up ancient threads, very few parents or children still use this site as well. and just to make clear - I am not posting this to add my book as my stories are just for my sons. I do however write a lot of book reviews, a few articles, and have a strong interest in children's literacy issues. None of these will appear here!

I thought this would be fair and fun if Amazon allows it - and if they don't all that will happen is it will disappear. How about if authors post their books here. It will stay at the top as there are at least 5 writers to every reader here, and will provide a place for the few readers left to see your books, without taking over all of the book requests threads. If the authors leave the ordinary readers room for discussion, this forum will eventually have people who buy books again, rather than just those who sell them, so your posts here might actually be seen by potential customers instead of other authors.

Please note - this will get boring very quickly if you just write "see my book". Take some time , tell people why they should look at your book - what formats it is printed in - any special features etc...

I would also suggest that when an author tries to push a book to every group it sounds desperate. Seriously think about what group your book should appeal to and stick to that. If you have written to a certain reading level mention that as well. Perhaps a comparison with the Oxford reading tree book levels would help as most parents are familiar with what level their child reads at.

If you have used special features, like large font, double spaced lines, easy to read vocabulary please mention, and if the book has anything parents might object to children younger than the recommended age reading, keep in mind - some children read well outside of age level.

Posted on 3 May 2013 10:54:27 BDT
[Deleted by the author on 5 May 2013 06:56:16 BDT]

Posted on 3 May 2013 11:14:44 BDT
Also sounds good to me!

I have three books out which are aimed at the 9-12 year range, but have also sold to teenagers and older readers. The books are about stroppy teenage toothfairies who try to save their world from being taken over. They cover aspects such as bullying, sibling rivalry, good versus evil. Humour plays a huge part in all books which are written from the perspective of Aggie Lichen, the main character.

Aggie Lichen; Pilp Collector
Aggie Lichen; Pilp Collector - Arty's Revenge
Aggie Lichen Pilp Collector - Hero Required

Posted on 3 May 2013 14:26:16 BDT
broxi3781 says:
I think authors often narrow the age range too much on their books. I would suggest that tooth fairies and such might appeal to a much a younger age range, and also mention, children tend to read more about characters a bit older than themselves than their own age. This looks like a specialist niche, as most older children are going for the vampire and werewolf scene, but you might have something to appeal to parents who want less violent, more innocent stories. Royston, I highly doubt this book is going to make it in the 9 -12 range. The fantasy level sounds much better suited to a younger audience. My son is age 8 - and I know he would consider the idea of werebeasts in library as far babyish. At this age the big sellers are Diary of a Wimpy Kid, Horrible Histories etc... although surprisingly he still enjoys Astrosaurs and these have a good following with the under 10 set. Over 10 and children's reading tastes become much more adult. Children are growing up much more quickly than they used to. You need a lot more detail f you want to draw people in. What makes your book different from others on the market? What type of humour are you going for? Mention a funny scene or two - most of all - you should have a web page telling people about your book. and with a self published book -

Also especially for Royston as your book is self published - you really need independent reviews. Be warned - these could be brutal - when a book hasn't made it past a publishers desk it hasn't been opened to the same criticisms yet. But if the book is really good, and manages a decent review - it is advertised on the review site and people will not only see it, they will have independent assessment of what it is like. Amazon reviews, sadly do not count for as much nowadays as so many authors write their own, or ask friends and relatives to do it.

If either of your books are illustrated at all - you really need to mention this as well. Also if you have any of the following:
Large standard font with double spacing on non see through, non reflective paper, preferably off white ( ideal for children with dyslexia).
Selected vocabulary for younger readers - making the book easier to read for those just starting out.

There is a huge untapped market for Hi-lo High interest low reading age, easy to read, and dyslexia friendly books.

If you do have websites - why not post details here as well - and one more suggestion - find a few reviewers blogs as well - look for ones who like books similar to yours and send out a couple of copies. I would suggest both you might find a niche in the home education market, and you tend to find children with a wider range of reading interests, and more willing to try something less mainstream. You also have a lot of children who read years ahead of their age level, but still enjoy books more suited to younger children. My own son tends to break this trend though. he can read a t a high reading level, having read Higson's books at age 6, but prefers an even high interest level, or age level. He prefers topics like Charlie Higson's The Enemy, the Young James Bond etc... but also still likes some illustration, meaning we need to seek out graphic novels, or he must read far below reading level to enjoy something with a few pictures.

Good luck

In reply to an earlier post on 3 May 2013 15:43:21 BDT
Royston Wood says:
Broxi, thank you for your words of wisdom. I am a complete novice at this.

You mention obtaining independent reviews and I would like to obtain some of these. Can you suggest any good review sites?

The book is printed in standard text on white with no illustrations I'm afraid. Something to bear in mind for the next edition.

I have one son who loves to read and one who avoids it like the plague.

I have enrolled for Look Inside and a Kindle edition but am still waiting for the mechanics to roll through.

Cheers

Posted on 3 May 2013 16:58:35 BDT
broxi3781 says:
The Bookbag is a site which sends books out to reviewers, and works with a lot of small publishers and independent authors. Just be aware - there is no guarantee of a positive review. However, they post available books on a reviewers board and people only take those which interest them - so they at least think they might like the book. Take advantage of Amazon's marketing deals as well and try offering the book free for a weekend. If you get just a few readers who enjoy and talk about the book you're half way there.
Good luck.

Posted on 4 May 2013 11:09:20 BDT
Last edited by the author on 4 May 2013 11:12:42 BDT
Hi broxi,

I have two children's books available in Kindle format. The books are aimed at anyone over the age of nine, right up to ninety-nine! The first book in the series, Mr. Planemaker's Flying Machine, is free. When it was first offered as a free download, I stumbled across a blog, Readaholic's Rambles. The blogger wrote:

"... to those of you who think this sounds like a children's book by the title, then well, you are right. But, I enjoy reading children's books in between sometimes, if only for some light relief. This book certainly provided some of that, although the storyline was more complex than I was expecting ...

"Having only read it myself, I can't say what a child would make of the story. For sure, I think the fact that it tackles sibling rivalry, bullying and the loss of a parent could help to make some children feel less alone, when they might struggle to talk to others about it. It also has the far more light-hearted fantasy elements. Plus, to top it off, most of the characters feature rather corny names, such as Mayja Troublemaker and Verry Boringman, which even I had to stifle the giggles at.

"Despite it being a little absurd at times, I did enjoy reading this book, and considering the fact that at the moment it is free for fellow kindlers, it really is worth a quick download."

Posted on 4 May 2013 11:19:00 BDT
broxi3781 says:
Hi Shelagh,
I think you have chosen wisely offering the first book free. If people read it and like it, they are apt to buy more. I was also happy to see an Amazon Vine review of the book as well as these are not easy to fudge. Sadly so many kindle authors have resorted to reviewing their own books or asking friends and relatives to do so, it takes away from legitimate authors like yourself.

It looks like something which combines fiction and fact well, and this might be something you want to stress, that the children could pick information about how computers work, etc... through reading this.

I'd suggest checking out some of the smaller independent publishing firms like Nosy Crow as well.

Posted on 4 May 2013 11:49:01 BDT
Thanks, broxi! I checked out the Nosy Crow website and I'll be contacting them soon.

Posted on 4 May 2013 15:15:34 BDT
Janey says:
This is a great idea, I have found that it is only authors that visit the other forum and you're bombarded with titles! I have a book published through KDP select, it is available here on amazon. It is aimed at young adults but may suit an older market as I have read lots of YA books myself and am in my late 20s. It is called Hunted, is supernatural romance and focuses on two rival characters. There is also a close bond between two best friends. It is free this weekend as well! If you're looking to escape to another world and secretly believe in magic and other wonderful supernatural things then please give it a go. Reviews are welcome as I'm working on a second and appreciate constructive comments.

Posted on 4 May 2013 23:27:23 BDT
gille liath says:
You people will never get it, will you? The reason readers don't visit the MOA forum is that they're NOT INTERESTED in your spam.

This thread should, as the OP says, be deleted, and I hope it will be.

Posted on 5 May 2013 13:38:37 BDT
broxi3781 says:
gille liath, I can certainly understand your point, and of course I realise this might be deleted. But if the authors would stick to this one thread, it means anyone who doesn't wish to read their posts can just skip this one. I am happy enough to chat with the authors as well, but it does need to be limited. The general board here has one ancient post after another dredged up, knowing the original poster is long gone, to try to sell books. It means any legitimate requests for books are often buried before they can get any replies, and of course we have many authors who feel their book is perfect for every reader.

I hope this might be a fair compromise. I think many readers here would be happy to hear about free kindle offers, new books etc.. as long as it doesn't take over the whole board - but if they don't want to read about it - they can skip this thread.

Sadly we are still getting some authors on the other posts, and unless Amazon really cracks down and starts removing the authors, we will continue to do so. The sad thing is, this board is only just starting to get readers again. If there are only authors here - they have no one to sell their books to anyway. Hopefully we can work out some compromise and everyone can enjoy the site.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2013 16:00:54 BDT
Liz says:
I Broxy, I don't understand completely all the posts (my English is not so good) I don't like the promotion forums too, they are redundant and not useful to any potential customer/reader... but if someone is interested, one of mi picture books is free today. It is dedicated to very young readers (3-5yr). The protagonist is 'Beth the baby boat'
The treasure hunt is open!

Please, forgive my impudence!

Regards,

Silvano.

Posted on 6 May 2013 16:18:15 BDT
broxi3781 says:
Hi Sil,
Had a look at your books - The Wolf and the Fox looks really interesting. I love books that expose children to folk tales from other parts of the world. Sadly , I don't so kindle, wiped the app after too many terrible books, and my book budget is so overspent this month - despite getting stacks of books free to review.

But please do tell me a bit more about this story if you can. If you happen to have any copies for review, let me know, as this is very much my type of thing. I collect the unusual in books. Will put a more detailed post on the authors thread.
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