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In reply to an earlier post on 7 Jan 2013 18:54:39 GMT
Last edited by the author on 7 Jan 2013 19:10:44 GMT
B. R. Smith says:
From Brent Smith.
F.A.O. Cheryl Ann Alexander (if it is she).

My dear, if you thought that was me being hateful you have a lot to learn. My advice would be to return to your previous anonymity and remain there, and not to trouble others with your attempts at humour. Your name is irrelevant, as, no doubt, are you. Forget your keyboard; use your stubby little fingers for something useful; knit yourself some bedsocks to keep you warm when reading Fifty Shades of... whatever.

Bye-bye from Brent.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jan 2013 11:18:19 GMT
I have just written my memoirs, in three issues (as yet unpublished), childhood, National service, 30 yrs of boating, etc, can anyone tell me the best (cheapest )way of getting them published ?....

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jan 2013 15:22:27 GMT
B. R. Smith says:
To Kenneth Johns:- Firstly, congratulations! In answer to your question, there is nothing cheaper than free, so have a look at the Amazon self-publishing site and consider that as a possibility. You will need some cover artwork; get some ideas from Shutterstock, an image library that's the best of the lot in my opinion --- all on the web.

You can try the agent/publisher route, but I wouldn't bother; even 'slebs' can't sell biographies.

Just don't be tempted to pay; no-one pays anything to get their work published --- no-one. Ever.

Best of luck,

Brent Smith.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jan 2013 15:45:19 GMT
many thanks, being new to writing, (I couldn't put pen to paper when I was at school) got many discredits for that, (long story), so I consider I would possibly be vulnerable, when it comes to being used by unscrupulous writer/publishers, looking for Ideas. I will tread carefully, and may take your advice...K.J

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jan 2013 22:41:43 GMT
B. M. Harden says:
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Posted on 9 Jan 2013 07:09:58 GMT
Sou'Wester says:
BMH: The first - and crucial - point is that whether one thinks that self-promotion/advertising on these forums is a good thing or not, it's against Amazon rules. The only place such activity is permitted is within the Meet Our Authors forum, which was set up for this purpose. It was hoped that the remaining forums would once again become free of all this spamming and revert to being proper discussions. Of course writers will need to promote their work to achieve sales, but there is a right way and a wrong way to do this, and hi-jacking a discussion to try and get a free ad out of Amazon is the wrong way. What the small but noticeable minority of writers who abuse these forums don't realise is (or don't care about) is that they really annoy genuine forum users and - perhaps more importantly - anger other authors who do treat these forums with respect, abide by the rules, and see some of their competitors pulling a fast one.
Though individual SP books may achieve low sales, cumulatively they must be having some impact on mainstream publishing. I wonder how we'd feel if, say, Harper Collins took Amazon to task for allowing all this free advertising to its competitors and insisted that each forum should include their entire current catalogue of books!

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jan 2013 15:36:55 GMT
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Use the appropriate forum, Barry.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 09:06:38 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Well you would say that but, in my experience, many of them have very little to say. Either way though, don't promote your stuff here. It not only ruins the place for many but you also have your own dedicated forum in which to do it. The moderation by Amazon on here is terrible in my view. Indeed, I would not be surprised if this was deleted whilst all the self-promo stuff is allowed to stay.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 09:29:51 GMT
I'm new to this forum Idea, but quite frankly, I have'nt seen much else on here as yet !....forums always divert the main purpose, as people have lots to say about everything, and you can never prevent diversification, which always comes back to the main purpose anyway.

if there is a post you do not agree with, simply ignore it, as I do with emails.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 09:32:54 GMT
I Readalot says:
I wonder if they will ever realise that advertising here is actually counter productive. Very few people are going to buy something from someone who annoys and on occasions even insults them. It also appears that either they can't read or can't be bothered to read any of the previous posts in discussions, nor do they check Amazons guidelines, it is becoming quite depressing.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 09:56:55 GMT
Dan Fante says:
That's a good point actually. I immediately discount anything that's been self promoted on here.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 14:58:05 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 15:19:02 GMT
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Dan Fante says:
It's not about all comments conforming to a certain viewpoint though. It's about keeping the spam all in one place so that we can discuss literature on here. Having every thread infiltrated with people promoting their own tomes makes that virtually impossible. I don't see that as selfish, I think it's what the majority would like. I think the self-promo crowd are actually the selfish ones for whom it is all about them.
Your memoirs sound fascinating by the way. 30 years of boating.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 15:33:51 GMT
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Posted on 10 Jan 2013 15:37:01 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 19:15:24 GMT
I Readalot says:
Couldn't have put it better myself Dan. The simple fact is that self-promo is only allowed in the MOA Forum.

Posted on 10 Jan 2013 20:06:37 GMT
monica says:
A special treat: my current autobiography, A Live Wire, recounts my life as an electrician. You're sure to feel a connection with it, gasp in awe at my shocking revelations, cheer me on when sparks fly as I deal with those foolish enough to try to thwart me, and you'll want to buy many copies after I lead you through the empty years lost to Rennies addiction. A bonus: An edition in Esperanto is available. Another bonus--a sample below of a telling moment from the book:

I Readalot, somehow your posts got put on ignore (inadvertantly, I stress) and I can't find the button to take them off--it's just
not showing. Any ideas for correcting this, anyone? Thanks. Rennies rule ok.

Posted on 4 Aug 2013 11:11:07 BDT
Rill says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 13:28:07 BDT
I Readalot says:
You have missed an important point, self-promo is ONLY allowed in the MOA and has been since 15 December 2011 (see the 'Important Announcement from Amazon). Most authors abide by this rule and indeed they can be the most vociferous in condemning those who choose to spam. Spammers risk having their posts deleted by Amazon and in extreme cases have been known to be banned from posting at all.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 16:52:43 BDT
B. R. Smith says:
Rill,

You are right. But don't forget that moaning is, in fact, a national pastime.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 17:04:07 BDT
Last edited by the author on 4 Aug 2013 17:04:40 BDT
I Readalot says:
And you have obviously missed the same point. Anyway if our pointing out a particular rule is moaning then you could be considered to be moaning about our moaning! Just accept that you are wrong in this case and we are right, all you need to do is check Amazon's rules.

Posted on 4 Aug 2013 17:07:04 BDT
B. R. Smith says:
If a first time writer happens to mention that he / she has written a book, surely that cannot be called 'self-promoting'? I know rules are rules and all that, but how about a little give-and-take? How many people posting here have actually written anything, and if they have, how long do you think they've managed to keep quiet about it?

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 18:01:41 BDT
I Readalot says:
There is a difference between saying 'I have written a book'(giving no details) during a post which engages with the discussion and someone saying 'read my book, (title), I have got loads of 5* reviews' and leaving a link to said book. As for 'how many people posting here have actually written anything', these threads are not for writers but for readers (or writers with their readers hat on) and whether or not someone has written a book is irrelevant. Incidentally, there are a lot of authors here who I didn't know were authors for a long time and only found out because someone else mentioned one of their books.
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