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In reply to an earlier post on 25 May 2014 13:57:52 BDT
Last edited by the author on 30 May 2014 13:25:19 BDT
G.JOHN says:
Your Lives In Our Hands: Based on true stories from a retired hospital doctorI agree with you totally. I know an author who was asked 8000/- by a publisher to publish the book after telling him that the book ('Your Lives in our hands' )was 'an excellent piece of work, narrating a kaleidoscopic variety of stories the author came across as a Surgical trainee'. The retired doctor (who had never done private practice) decided to self publish in Amazon. Can you blame him?
The book is a fabulous book worth reading.

Posted on 21 May 2014 17:38:54 BDT
Mr. Mm Lobas says:
You could issue a press release at http://www.pressat.co.uk or somewhere similar. If its good I imagine the newspapers would pick it up at some point.

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Aug 2013 04:09:30 BDT
B. R. Smith says:
I'm glad to hear it. If that's the way it evolved then it's a shame, but hardly a surprise; there are always people who seem to test things to the limit. Never mind. Best to ignore anyone who is simply using the site to flog their own wares. I think we are all quite capable of making our own minds up about what to read (or not).
And for anyone who may check the times of posts, I haven't just returned from some party; I tend to work better when the house is quiet, with no distractions.
How about someone giving their thoughts on the curious affair of the 'Robert Galbraith' book, eh?

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 21:29:05 BDT
Marand says:
There was give and take at one time but then the authors started to do too much taking to the extent that the forums were deluged with promotional posts. At that point Amazon took action so that the main forums remained what they had always been called, i.e. 'Customer Discussions' to use Amazon's term. A surprising number of people on this forum have written novels or stories - some of those authors oppose the spammers who ignore the rules. They don't post links to their books or otherwise promote them but if you check out their profiles you may come across the name of their books. They also engage in discussion rather than posting nothing but repetitive fly-by promos.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 21:18:36 BDT
B. R. Smith says:
Ah, thanks for that. I've only just found out what a troll is, what with all this dreadful Twitter business aimed at the likes of poor Mary Beard. I mean, people just get themselves in such a tizzy over nothing.
Anyway, back to the matter in hand...

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 19:48:16 BDT
I Readalot says:
There have been plenty of them, in this the bio forum also in thriller, romance, fiction, all of them really. Fortunately Amazon delete quite a lot so many are no longer visible. A spammer is one who spams in internet discussions, as in people who consistently self-promote where they are not wanted or allowed, a very common word online, like troll.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 18:55:18 BDT
B. R. Smith says:
There is no doubt that I am wrong about the rules 'obviously', but my point --- emolliently put, though that seems to have been lost on you --- is that there is no point in becoming so obsessive about a rulebook that it actually causes one to write words in capitals for emphasis. I merely speak in defence of a more languid way of looking at the world.
And what on earth's a 'spammer'?

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 18:40:44 BDT
Last edited by the author on 4 Aug 2013 18:41:56 BDT
B. R. Smith says:
Certainly there is a difference. However, I have not yet seen anyone posting such a blatant puff as your example, and if they did so, of course it would be wrong. One wouldn't dream of doing it at a party or in one's local pub, so why do it here? It would be rather pushy and a little boring. I was merely making the point for those who do not know, that writing is a lonely game and there must be a temptation to mention it en passant.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 18:01:41 BDT
I Readalot says:
There is a difference between saying 'I have written a book'(giving no details) during a post which engages with the discussion and someone saying 'read my book, (title), I have got loads of 5* reviews' and leaving a link to said book. As for 'how many people posting here have actually written anything', these threads are not for writers but for readers (or writers with their readers hat on) and whether or not someone has written a book is irrelevant. Incidentally, there are a lot of authors here who I didn't know were authors for a long time and only found out because someone else mentioned one of their books.

Posted on 4 Aug 2013 17:07:04 BDT
B. R. Smith says:
If a first time writer happens to mention that he / she has written a book, surely that cannot be called 'self-promoting'? I know rules are rules and all that, but how about a little give-and-take? How many people posting here have actually written anything, and if they have, how long do you think they've managed to keep quiet about it?

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 17:04:07 BDT
Last edited by the author on 4 Aug 2013 17:04:40 BDT
I Readalot says:
And you have obviously missed the same point. Anyway if our pointing out a particular rule is moaning then you could be considered to be moaning about our moaning! Just accept that you are wrong in this case and we are right, all you need to do is check Amazon's rules.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 16:52:43 BDT
B. R. Smith says:
Rill,

You are right. But don't forget that moaning is, in fact, a national pastime.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 13:28:07 BDT
I Readalot says:
You have missed an important point, self-promo is ONLY allowed in the MOA and has been since 15 December 2011 (see the 'Important Announcement from Amazon). Most authors abide by this rule and indeed they can be the most vociferous in condemning those who choose to spam. Spammers risk having their posts deleted by Amazon and in extreme cases have been known to be banned from posting at all.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2013 11:18:00 BDT
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Posted on 4 Aug 2013 11:11:07 BDT
Rill says:
The best books I have read have been by unknown, self published authors, so as far as I'm concerned let them get on with it. Some people on here take life much too seriously and just seem to moan for the sheer pleasure of it

Posted on 10 Jan 2013 20:06:37 GMT
monica says:
A special treat: my current autobiography, A Live Wire, recounts my life as an electrician. You're sure to feel a connection with it, gasp in awe at my shocking revelations, cheer me on when sparks fly as I deal with those foolish enough to try to thwart me, and you'll want to buy many copies after I lead you through the empty years lost to Rennies addiction. A bonus: An edition in Esperanto is available. Another bonus--a sample below of a telling moment from the book:

I Readalot, somehow your posts got put on ignore (inadvertantly, I stress) and I can't find the button to take them off--it's just
not showing. Any ideas for correcting this, anyone? Thanks. Rennies rule ok.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 19:15:24 GMT
I Readalot says:
Couldn't have put it better myself Dan. The simple fact is that self-promo is only allowed in the MOA Forum.

Posted on 10 Jan 2013 15:37:01 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 15:33:51 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 15:19:02 GMT
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Dan Fante says:
It's not about all comments conforming to a certain viewpoint though. It's about keeping the spam all in one place so that we can discuss literature on here. Having every thread infiltrated with people promoting their own tomes makes that virtually impossible. I don't see that as selfish, I think it's what the majority would like. I think the self-promo crowd are actually the selfish ones for whom it is all about them.
Your memoirs sound fascinating by the way. 30 years of boating.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 14:58:05 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 09:56:55 GMT
Dan Fante says:
That's a good point actually. I immediately discount anything that's been self promoted on here.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 09:32:54 GMT
I Readalot says:
I wonder if they will ever realise that advertising here is actually counter productive. Very few people are going to buy something from someone who annoys and on occasions even insults them. It also appears that either they can't read or can't be bothered to read any of the previous posts in discussions, nor do they check Amazons guidelines, it is becoming quite depressing.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 09:29:51 GMT
I'm new to this forum Idea, but quite frankly, I have'nt seen much else on here as yet !....forums always divert the main purpose, as people have lots to say about everything, and you can never prevent diversification, which always comes back to the main purpose anyway.

if there is a post you do not agree with, simply ignore it, as I do with emails.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jan 2013 09:06:38 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Well you would say that but, in my experience, many of them have very little to say. Either way though, don't promote your stuff here. It not only ruins the place for many but you also have your own dedicated forum in which to do it. The moderation by Amazon on here is terrible in my view. Indeed, I would not be surprised if this was deleted whilst all the self-promo stuff is allowed to stay.
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