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In reply to an earlier post on 13 Mar 2013 16:31:03 GMT
I Readalot says:
Self-promo is only the allowed in the MOA forum. Amazon will probably delete your post as it breaches the rules. If you had read some of the threads before posting you would have seen several self-promo posts followed by posts telling them that self-promo is not allowed. The Important Announcement from Amazon explains it all.

Posted on 13 Mar 2013 15:04:37 GMT
David Adams says:
A Mysterious Conception (Allegory of Self)

im sorry you feel stuck and bored... this will perhaps reawaken your mind... its not all doom and gloom

Posted on 13 Mar 2013 12:41:43 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 6 Feb 2013 12:19:30 GMT
I Readalot says:
You may have noticed that 7 posters have negged your post, hint - read the Important Announcement from Amazon'.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Feb 2013 14:10:31 GMT
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Posted on 3 Feb 2013 14:09:50 GMT
AS says:
You might enjoy The Lewis Man
The Lewis Man: Book Two of the Lewis Trilogy - not Scandinavian Detective, but Scottish Islands - but great story in a bleak island setting, and starts with finding a body in a bog - enjoy. And only 20p, so not so bad if you don't like it.

Another author to try is Ken McClure - these are medical thrillers, mainly set in Scotland. Fenton's Winter is a good example.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Feb 2013 10:28:22 GMT
Last edited by the author on 3 Feb 2013 13:00:00 GMT
Sombrio says:
Hiya Tom,

I found your idea about an author's first book, and his subsequent career to be very thought-provoking. However, like many things that I come across for the first time, my inclination always seems to be to examine the strands that make it up to see if the item "holds water". So please just take any comments I make as coming from an interest in exploration.

My first impression was that you'd come pretty close to systematically nailing down the principle reasons why so many authors become "one hit wonders".

But gradually a nagging thought crept in that all the reasons you listed for both his initial blockbuster, and his subsequent failure to keep that level of attainment were "external" causes, e.g. (1) success caused by leisure, research and the freedom to do whatever one chooses (2) lack of continued genius caused by pressure for 'more' from publisher, the treadmill of committment, and lack of audience desire for anything else on that topic.

It seems to me however, that what we're poking around the edges of here is an attempt to understand the source of inspiration. And that is a quest which many, many artists in every field, (despite the question being of utmost personal concern to each one of them),....have almost universally declared that this mysterious source is 'beyond their knowing'.

The only contributing factors that we seem to have access to are the external conditions, (such as those which you have very competently analysed in your post). But they are not the 'source' of inspiration. Moreover, for every proposed cause of either 'success' or 'failure to continue that success' which you have listed, there can easily be found someone for whom that particular condition wasn't part of their story.

So what am I then suggesting might be the causes ?

I hope you don't find it a cop-out, but I find somehow compellingly attractive, the notion that there are many things which are completely beyond comprehension by our human minds. Unsolve-able mysteries that are NOT accessible to our staggering collection of logical, scientific-method tools that humanity, since its first descent from the trees, has used to prise the lid off nature's secrets. When I see what our human deisres to understand, then exploit for our own benefit, have done to this planet and all the life that shares it,.... it somehow reinforces my feeling that periodically standing mute in the face of limitless unknowables, is perhaps more beneficial for every living thing connected to our life than the self-evident by-products which so often arise from the 'certainty of knowing'.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Feb 2013 12:45:49 GMT
I Readalot says:
Sombrio - getting your posts negged is something you just have to get used to, it happens to everyone. After a while you will just ignore it. There are a lot of idiots around who seem to neg for the fun of it.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Feb 2013 12:36:28 GMT
Last edited by the author on 1 Feb 2013 12:40:42 GMT
TomC says:
The subject of an author's first book, and subsequent career, is an interesting one. The obvious difference is that when an author is producing his first book, he doesn't have to clock on in the morning and produce X words by lunch time. If he feels like staying in bed all day thinking rather than writing, nobody is going to argue with him, and if he feels that his book would benefit by a few months research in the south of France, then provided he has the financial resources and has no other commitments, he is free to do it.

If, however, he produces a book like "Jackal" or "Catch 22", all of that changes. The publisher wants more, and will pay a substantial advance to chain the writer to his desk. What happens next depends on whether he has enough ideas to sustain him while he's on the treadmill. The problem with "Jackal" and "Catch 22" was that although they were both utterly convincing in their creation of their respective worlds, there was a limited demand for more of the same.

Compare that with John Le Carre, who IIRC was stationed in Berlin when the wall went up. He wrote Spy Who Came In From The Cold very quickly, and essentially continued to milk the Cold War for over 30 years. Much of his success was due to his portrayal of events set in the contemporary world, while Forsyth and Heller were writing historical novels. Some authors have made that work - Forester with Hornblower for example - but Jackal was a novel dealing with a particular situation in time which wasn't really re-usable. After all, the "hero" dies at the end, and it doesn't get more final than that.

Posted on 1 Feb 2013 09:11:36 GMT
Last edited by the author on 1 Feb 2013 16:07:53 GMT
Sombrio says:
I find this activity of trawling through my memory for 'un-put-downable' books quite an interesting one. Many of the books my mind comes up with I read so long ago that I can't remember a great deal about them other than how absolutely gripped I was while reading them. At the time I couldn't wait, at every possible opportunity, to slip back into that other world,... one that was often far more exciting than the daily world around me . "Day of the Jackal" was certainly of that order of reading experience. (And I agree with what you said about "The Odessa File". Even more with Forsyth's following book, "The Dogs of War")

When I was stimulated by your reply yesterday and asked my mind to come up with another book that was as completely enthralling as the experience of reading "Day of the Jackal", (after a delay while all the invisible processes jump-started into action somewhere in the library stacks of my subconscious mind's filing system) .... the one that was eventually thrust into my 'conscious' mind, was "Shogun", by James Clavell.

And like Forsyth, after finishing it and while in the limbo land of longing to stay in his created world, I tried to regain that mental escape into adventure by reading other of Clavell's books. Sadly, nothing by him ever clicked for me again. Like you said about Forsyth, I guess writing a phenomenal stroke of genius like "Shogun", is just too hard an act to follow. Even for the man who created it.

Perhaps that is a fairly common phenomenon. (Joseph Heller's "Catch 22" immediately comes to mind)

Though, not to get too carried away,... it wasn't the case for my personal favourite author, Kurt Vonnegut.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Jan 2013 13:44:31 GMT
TomC says:
Beats me. I agree with your assessment of Forsyth - I've recommended "Day of the Jackal" myself in the past. I'm less keen on "Odessa" and his later work, but I think "Jackal" was such a well-crafted book that it was always going to be a hard act to follow.

Posted on 30 Jan 2013 08:02:02 GMT
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Sombrio says:
The way some people use the voting buttons here is completely beyond my comprehension. I can certainly understand why regular forum users try to vote off the page, as quickly as possible, the wannabe authors who come here merely to use this place as a soapbox to promote their own self-published book.

But, dumbfoundingly, 2 out of 4 people below voted to say that my personal recommendations of books that gave me a great deal of pleasure in my life, (and which I added here because I thought they might give an equally enjoyable reading experience to others who may not have come across them),... these 2 morons felt this kind of contribution was somehow innapropriate to either this thread, or this forum.

I'd be interested to hear what these 2 feel "IS" an appropriate contribution. (But then again, the type of people who are drawn to throwing stones at others while remaining hidden from view themselves,.... are hardly likely to come out into the open and explain why they enjoy this kind of activity, are they ?)

Posted on 28 Jan 2013 18:51:21 GMT
Last edited by the author on 30 Jan 2013 07:47:21 GMT
Sombrio says:
If you're still looking for books which are as gripping and as 'un-put-downable' as Stieg Larsen, the only ones I've come across to match that calibre are the "Day of the Jackal" and "The Odessa File" by Frederick Forsyth.

He won't let you down if it's suspense you're after.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2013 06:57:16 GMT
>>> says:
Foxtrot Oscar, you dullard.

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 14:26:31 GMT
L. Cleaning says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 8 Dec 2012 19:34:51 GMT
I Readalot says:
Just read the 'Important Announcement' before plugging again.

Posted on 8 Dec 2012 11:08:55 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 24 Sep 2012 15:19:08 BDT
Try taking a look at www.AuthorsElectric.co.uk as there are a variety of authors there

Posted on 19 Sep 2012 23:14:59 BDT
I have just read CJ Harts In For The Kill - its a real life girl in the dragon tattoo. Reading it again now.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Sep 2012 17:13:45 BDT
Last edited by the author on 18 Sep 2012 17:16:28 BDT
Roy Banwell says:
Hello, I have just put my book on Kindle, I am an unknown as you put it but I don't know about a Joe Blogs. I have written about my, I feel exciting time in the Infantry (Cheshire Regiment), all post 1970. It included my time in Northern Ireland, Rhodesia and Bosnia etc. I have received good feedback from everyone but it would be nice to get some from someone who doesn't know me. Thanks for your time anyway, regards Roy.Banwell, "The Long Journey".

Posted on 28 Feb 2011 08:37:49 GMT
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Posted on 16 Nov 2010 17:51:11 GMT
Kesali says:
Jo Nesbo, and Yrsa Sigurdardottir are both authors of cold climate police procedurals.

Imo, worth reading.

also try Mo Hayder: her books are based in the UK West Country, and they are very good.

Posted on 14 Nov 2010 12:57:53 GMT
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