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Bio on Benny Hill shows he was considered funnier than Monty Python by various TV stations


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Initial post: 17 Aug 2012 16:39:33 BDT
Man of truth says:
The bio is The Benny Hill Story by John Smith.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Aug 2012 16:50:13 BDT
Brass Neck says:
Not surprising is it? Monty Python were altogether too cerebral and outre for mainstream audiences and so were tucked away late at night on Beeb 2. Benny Hill's amiable, vaguely sexist, everyman slapstick pulled in the big early evening audiences and so would be perceived as 'funnier' for which a better substitute would be more popular. Let's not forget he also topped the singles chart with Ernie. That said I don't suppose Benny Hill dvds nowadays outsell Python's which have achieved an iconic status far beyond their early commercial impact.

Posted on 19 Aug 2012 19:13:49 BDT
Man of truth says:
Hill was the best comic ever.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Aug 2012 11:30:40 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Aug 2012 11:37:59 BDT
Dawn says:
Whilst I agree to a point, I think you cannot compare these Comedians per say.. Benny Hill was so loved by many and had a wide audience in England and especially in America in the early 80's.. The Monty Python crowd were very "cerebral" as you call it and a bit high brow... for the average American to understand the humour but in part very funny I have very many favourite sketches "The French taunter" in particular, MP humour was a lot different and not slapstick more wordy..
Benny Hill comes from my City.. Southampton, he is laid to rest close by where I live I remember him well; I feel as a Python Fan though..I have to disagree with that your assessment and comparison of the two is unfair to Benny... They still are up there these two with Tommy Cooper... although he was a bit before my Time ;) and again a different type of humour.

Posted on 21 Aug 2012 12:52:51 BDT
Much of Monty Python was odd or surreal rather than funny. Actual funny moments were few, and often each sketch had only one real funny line before being endlessly done to death and petering out. It had cult appeal, certainly, and was different enough to be compulsive, although I did sometimes tire of funny voices type humour (like the Goons, if anyone remembers). Benny Hill, on the other hand, was funny all the time, unless you were a stitched-up 'cerebral' politically correct type.

Posted on 21 Aug 2012 13:18:39 BDT
Sou'Wester says:
One thing we can be sure of: Hill himself would never have claimed to be the best comic ever and would probably be embarrassed if others made such a claim. Apparently his stage act was very weak (Bob Monkhouse, a friend and admirer, told of Hill's inability to project properly to a live audience), but his stuttering career took off when he switched to television. There - in the 1950/60s - he was certainly one of the most inventive characters in TV comedy. Although best remembered for his later work, I don't think it was his best; that has nothing to do with the rather silly attacks about sexism etc. that were levelled at him, I just think he ran out of ideas and the shows become ever more repetitive. Apart from his TV shows, I think he showed up quite well in the few film roles he took on and it was a shame that he didn't more.
So, no, Benny Hill was not the "best comic ever" (doubt if you could validate such a claim for any one individual); let us be content with the knowledge that he was a very funny performer.

Posted on 8 Sep 2012 08:21:38 BDT
Man of truth says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 11 Sep 2012 15:59:26 BDT
Madgra Anda' says:
Ah, the best. Who is to say what that means exactly? I recently met a German camper who told me Benny Hill is really popular in his country. Now that is praise. One of the Greats, I think, but only to those who appreciate predictive slapstick. I recently watched 'Life of Brian with grandchildren. Although I remember rolling around on the floor at the 'Release Roger scene,' I didn't even giggle this time. The children didn't rate it at all. On the other hand they love Benny Hill BUT have a complete set of Norman Wisdom DVDs....Taste, it's a mystery.
Madgra Anda'

Posted on 11 Sep 2012 16:08:29 BDT
Scarlet says:
What about Dick Emery?

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Sep 2012 16:24:14 BDT
Brass Neck says:
Oooh, you are awful .......

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Sep 2012 16:40:12 BDT
Scarlet says:
Kitchener Lampwick, Randy Mandy, Sex-starved Hettie, Bovver Boy, The Toothy Vicar and Camp Clarence - memory lane Hold on! Randy Mandy!

Posted on 11 Sep 2012 17:59:51 BDT
Madgra Anda' says:
It is possible to loose sight of the writers for these characters. Galton and Simpson made stars. Hancock was never really funny, except as a deliverer of the funny situations dreamed up by script writers. I suppose the big attraction of stand-up comedians is that many of them write their own stuff. Bob Hope (I hope someone remembers him) had brilliant one liners, but also an army of script writers dreaming them up.
So, in this debate,I suppose the 'best' is someone who makes new generations laugh and perhaps even wrote most of his/hers own material.
Off to buy four candles!!
Madra Anda'

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Sep 2012 22:01:31 BDT
Dawn says:
But I like Ya! ha ha

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Sep 2012 22:02:36 BDT
Dawn says:
Yeah I remember Bob Hope he was funny! pushin' up daises now!

Posted on 11 Sep 2012 22:07:27 BDT
Last edited by the author on 13 Sep 2012 09:17:46 BDT
Dawn says:
The Two Ronnies.... ah now your talking! What about the Women? Victoria Wood & Julie Walters... Very sharp wit, clever woman, Julie waters always makes me laugh!.. Victoria Wood a very bright Lady with words..

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Sep 2012 13:53:14 BDT
Scarlet says:
Mrs Overall

Posted on 12 Sep 2012 16:50:48 BDT
Mark Pen says:
They were all very funy characters with a great ablity to entertain; therein lies the truth. No profane langauge, shouting or obscenties. Not like today's lot with constant effing, blinding and shouting. Why must they shout? And are any of them funny? nah can't hold a candle to the old lot.

Posted on 13 Sep 2012 00:31:38 BDT
Man of truth says:
current biography of 1983 showed how benny was named the funniest man in the whole uk. he was.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Sep 2012 09:10:14 BDT
Last edited by the author on 13 Sep 2012 09:15:12 BDT
Dawn says:
That perhaps is because it was so slapstick and not definitive in the jokes and words per English Humour. I find the average German to be very cool and straight faced, but that is generalising too, some known to me are funny and with good wit, I have had a couple of Germanic friends.. Now you talk about the Irish they are very funny! ..might appear thick, like in the series "Mrs Brown" but actually are very friendy, funny nation of people... The English are a bit up themselves generally! unless they are Cockney, then thats a totally different matter...I love the Cockney's my Great Grandmother was one! and I am 1/4 Irish!

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Sep 2012 09:21:15 BDT
Dawn says:
Good series but never took to that one.. Half of the cast of "Coronation Street" on there! Victoria was a bit of a Task Master, and she hates "THE X Factor" so do I it intimidates people ... I like Victoria Wood.

Posted on 13 Sep 2012 18:09:11 BDT
Man of truth says:
benny called himself benny after jack benny.

Posted on 13 Sep 2012 18:56:20 BDT
Dawn says:
Oh I never Knew that!

Posted on 14 Sep 2012 08:08:29 BDT
Man of truth says:
i think legendary comic bob hope wrote the foreword to the american version of the hill bio.

Posted on 14 Sep 2012 09:46:01 BDT
Dawn says:
I loved Bob Hope he was an amazing oldtimer! very funny and American ..or was he originally English? not sure most were. Laural

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Sep 2012 13:31:53 BDT
Last edited by the author on 15 Sep 2012 13:32:38 BDT
gille liath says:
Yes, he was British-born. I like Bobe Hope too, especially Casanova, Paleface and Son of Paleface. Who said Scooby Doo was the first American screen coward?

(It was Eddie Izzard.)
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