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Initial post: 29 Jan 2014 21:02:00 GMT
I have just got Netflix and I know it is a popular medium for film and TV show watching but my question is do you think Netflix, Love Film and others like it are damaging DVD & Blu Ray sales?.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jan 2014 21:23:21 GMT
Looking at current Blu ray sales, i can't really see a problem at the moment, so maybe it's a bit premature to be concerned. Look at Cinema after Video came out, there was all this talk of it being the end but now look at it, Cinemas are in a new dawn thanks to digital technology and look what happened to Video.

Posted on 29 Jan 2014 22:39:03 GMT
Last edited by the author on 29 Jan 2014 22:41:20 GMT
I think it's early days for streaming services. It'll only get faster and resolution will increase. But it's all tied into the network infrastructure and the size of catalogues these services provide. I'm guessing by your PSN tag you're using your playstation to use netflix, and with more and more devices produced with these apps installed, not including PCs, IMO it will have to impact on DVD/BluRay sales. Just the accessibility of it all means for me that's my first port of call if I fancy watching something. I can only speak about me but I wouldn't buy a hard copy of a film/tv series I can get on Netflix, it wouldn't make sense to me.

IMO gaming will also go the same way. I'm not sure it's a generational thing but as new generations of users become used to these services I think the idea of buying a hard copy of something/anything will seem outdated and antiquated. I think there's a fundamental shift in perception happening.

(Just so Joe doesn't jump on here and lambaste me, I'm not saying it's good or bad, I'm just saying that in my opinion that's the way I think it'll go)

Posted on 30 Jan 2014 14:58:05 GMT
AndyBSG says:
I don't think streaming will have a massive effect on BR sales because the selection available at present is quite limited.

Maybe once they can effortlessly stream at 1080P everywhere and the selection of titles is the same as the selection that's available in your local HMV store then maybe but I think that's a way off yet.

That said, streaming services have pretty much been responsible for killing off rental stores.

Posted on 30 Jan 2014 15:12:19 GMT
Considering what the likes of Blockbuster did to small street corner Video stores, i don't think there is many people who give a stuff about them.

Posted on 4 Feb 2014 20:53:25 GMT
G. Hanks says:
As Andy said I think selection is going to be a big key feature. I do however think it is/will have a larger effect on TV. Since I got Netflix I rarely if ever watch TV. A combination of there being so many TV boxsets on Netflix with the fact that TV is so poor these days. Even the good stuff is generally metered out in one episode a week chunks with adverts throughout. For myself, and I imagine a lot of others, being able to watch a series at my own pace, rather than dictated to by TV schedules, is one of the biggest draws.

I still buy blu-rays though, not everything goes to Netflix so the big releases will usually get me handing over the cash. Box-sets much less than I used to though.

Posted on 4 Feb 2014 22:39:21 GMT
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Posted on 4 Feb 2014 22:39:53 GMT
mister joe says:
Tetro you do make me I really that predictable?
I have sworn to myself that I shall never utter a rude word to you again.
You are not the enemy.
I have no idea why I was so scathing towards you and regret it.You will not be shocked to hear I am involved in another ruckus on another forum....flitting between hypocrisy and self righteous anger.
I think it's all adapting to how we receive things now.
I mean I just buy dvds and probably will do till they stop selling them.I do miss going into shops but it's just not feasible.
But I can see why Netflix suits a viewers demand.
Is it a rent system?Like you rent a movie and it downloads.

Posted on 5 Feb 2014 00:11:17 GMT
It all depends on what monthly package you choose Mister joe, also you can choose to stream straight to various devices or you can have it posted to you.

I'd choose Lovefilm if i was you though mate:)

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Feb 2014 00:50:15 GMT
Last edited by the author on 5 Feb 2014 00:52:06 GMT
I'm the same when it comes to wanting to go into shops. Music and second-hand bookshops has always been the biggest thing I'd miss. Not so much places like HMV, but growing up there was a record shop called The Left Legged Pineapple, sold new and second-hand stuff, band T-shirts. It's the only time I enjoy shopping. I would spend ages just flicking through racks and racks of music. Before Amazon or itunes and their "other people also bought" the people working there would suggest stuff. I get the tangible physicality of it all. But at one point there was three really good record shops close to where I live, now there's none. The funny thing is whenever I speak to anyone about it they all say they miss it and what a shame they're gone. But presumably they stopped shopping there, like everybody else, because otherwise they'd still be running.
There was a great documentary about surviving vinyl record shops. If I had the guts and money I think the answer is to make the record shop a part of a bigger venture. So have a space where you can sell drinks and food, have a license for alcohol and can be opened up for bands to play. Attached to that is the record shop. So making it a music venue (in its fullest sense), incorporating all the stuff people love about music. So each aspect brings together the other aspects and you're not just reliant on one thing. I hope that makes sense. When I win the lottery and all that.

Netflix, you pay 6 a month subscription and you can stream (like Youtube) whatever film/tv program in their catalogue. They do a one month free trail. It's definitely not perfect and there's certainly a question or discussion about how ease of accessibility diminishes the value of something.

I have to admit finding the whole shifts from physical to digital culture interesting. Everything, to the way children grow up as much online (or at least in a digital environment) than in a playground to the ease for somebody to make something (music, animation, film etc) and then be able to show it to the world.

Posted on 5 Feb 2014 11:51:34 GMT
mister joe says:
Yeah that was my concern,things becoming a commodity,artistically devalued.
But it is simply the next generation and there are pro and cons to availability.
And now there is simply no excuse for not being able to make something or do something.
The age of the great unknown film maker is gone.
A shame really as when in my younger days I got a lot of mileage out of not being able to get "funded".
You can sing a song,make a movie,do a dance....
My daughter is 4 and she is already savvy to iphones and ipads.
It's a situation I find repellent,i'd rather she have an abacus or conkers but I have told myself I shall in no way be the father in a granddad cardigan lamenting the noise of the latest rapper.
Sayin that I have to be doubly careful not to be a funky dad wearing khaki shorts and a beanie.

Posted on 5 Feb 2014 14:10:21 GMT
Last edited by the author on 5 Feb 2014 14:31:23 GMT
Cerberus says:
How have sales been on DVD and Blu-ray globally ? they're both generating massive amounts of cash yearly, Wreck-It Ralph on Blu-ray made $54,676,660 and The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, Part 2 on DVD made $70,902,058 both of these were just from the USA last year. The net neutrality getting a kick in the nuts in the USA will probably happen in other regions of the world I bet so that could have a huge impact to providers of film and game streaming and of course users.
We've streamed here and there but never been overly happy with the quality of the audio and picture so it's still Blu-ray and DVD for us.

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Feb 2014 14:15:14 GMT
Last edited by the author on 5 Feb 2014 14:16:33 GMT
Exactly mate, quality is one of the reoccuring critisicms of streaming at the moment, also there's the size aspect aswell, i don't fancy watching films on computer/smartphone screens.

Posted on 5 Feb 2014 15:02:19 GMT
RAB says:
I would also say that as long as it takes longer for a film/TV show to get to Netflix/Lovefilm/Whatever DVD and Blu Ray Sales will be fine. It's also better to gift a film to someone than a Lovefilm subscription.

That being said video apps on my Xbox have been a godsend for me, Youtube, iPlayer, Lovefilm, Netflix and Sky are excellent for me. Most of my shows are watched on catch up now, the only Live TV I ever watch is sport, the rest I can watch when it suits, usually while I'm having dinner because the rest of the time I'm either gaming, listening to music or playing guitar.

The TV series Lovefilm have either commissioned or been made exclusive have been surprisingly good as well. The Vikings and Copper are what I've watched so far. Vikings was excellent, and Copper's on its second season and is enjoyable enough.

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Feb 2014 15:35:08 GMT
Sounds like a great life mate, gaming, listening to music and playing guitar;)

Posted on 5 Jun 2014 18:07:18 BDT
Marc Dennis says:
I like watching tv series on digital apps as it saves the disc changing and menus and not too mention the anti-piracy adverts and notices.

But I also like the features you get with hard copy, if I really like a TV series then I will usually rent it or buy it.

Quality is an issue even with HD setting on netflix BSG on blu-ray cant be matched compared to the digital copy.
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