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Initial post: 14 Sep 2012 13:41:14 BDT
Hi

I totally dismissed this film as a reboot of the old Judge Dredd but it seems to be getting amazing reviews and its currently 91% on rotten tomatoes.

I just wondered if any of you have seen it? is it worth going to the cinema for? we have some tickets to use up.

If not is the Bourne Legacy any good? we loved the first 3

Posted on 14 Sep 2012 14:10:29 BDT
Trigger says:
I want to see it but rarely get to the cinema these days. Didn't even realise it was already out, as it goes. I may see if any friends want to go see it, as I doubt my missus will.

Posted on 14 Sep 2012 14:23:26 BDT
Last edited by the author on 14 Sep 2012 15:46:57 BDT
just read the mini reviews on my flixter app for this - one of the (few) negative mini reviews:

"If you've always wanted to watch bullets go through someone's face in slow motion, Dredd is for you"

sounds AMAZING

but yeah - 91% overall. sounds dope tbf.

Posted on 14 Sep 2012 19:18:37 BDT
The Selecter says:
I saw it last week Karl Urban is great as Dredd, you can see that this film was made by people who actually read 2000ad!
It was a good introduction to Judge Dredd, not outstandingly brilliant but a more of a true take of the character than the last film. Hopefully the next instalment will have a bigger budget, (Mega City One looked a little sparse) but I hope they don't tone down the violence & keep it aimed at an adult audience!

I'll buy it on DVD when it comes out.

Posted on 14 Sep 2012 19:19:48 BDT
The Selecter says:
oh yeah the 3D is awful!!!

Posted on 14 Sep 2012 23:02:20 BDT
Hey Kai,

I went to see it on Tuesday this week. Not a bad flick - very trippy scenes throughout due to the drug at the centre of the movie being called (SlowMo - I think).
I agree with the Selector in that Karl Urban was a really good Dread and I liked the pairing of him with Anderson.
Story could have been a tab better but overall worth seeing.

I though the 3D was good and worked well when the SlowMo scenes kicked in .....

In re: to the Bourne Legacy - not bad but not as good as the 1st 3 imo. The lead plays the part well.
Also went to see Total Recall on Tuesday as well (had the day off so went to see 2 movies in the 1 day). I enjoyed it and it was 1 action sequence afte another. Have to say Kate Beckinsale really plays the part of action heros well - she is very athletic and moves very convincingly. Loved Jessica Biel in this as well.

In order of most enjoyable for me:-
1. Dredd,
2. Recall
3. Bourne Legacy.

Posted on 18 Sep 2012 14:41:36 BDT
Last edited by the author on 18 Sep 2012 14:41:57 BDT
Thanks for your thoughts everyone!

We saw Bourne Legacy in the end as its coming to an end at our local cinema.

I thought it was pretty good with some standout moments but the finale dissapointed me. It felt like it was trying to be *spoilers* like the chase scene half way through in Bourne Ultimatum but turned out quite flat. I was expecting that agent they sent to kill him to do something other than chase him on a bike. It wouldnt have been so bad if they didnt big him up to be some super-agent.

We will probably go and see Dredd next week :)

Posted on 21 Jan 2013 21:56:32 GMT
Avatouir says:
I thought the Bourne Legacy started out really slow and ended shortly after picking up any momentum

Dredd was brilliant though given is minute budget

Posted on 22 Jan 2013 08:17:51 GMT
Last edited by the author on 22 Jan 2013 08:20:12 GMT
Wayne says:
I thought dredd was an excellent film.

Karl urban nailed dredd completely and as a fan of the comics/graphic novels it was nice to see the character portrayed so accurately. I liked that mega city 1 was shown as a more realistic place than the blade runner esq world of the comics too. The action was great and it was nice to see a decent 18 rated Sci fi action film and not the usual dumbed down 12 rated fare that seems to be the norm these days.

If I could find any criticism it would be that I would have liked to see a bit more of dredd patrolling the streets before we settled into the main story of being trapped in the block. I would also have liked to see more of the inside of the hall of justice and more of the other judges. This is where the budget showed its limits.

I would also have liked to see dredd use his fists more. He's no martial arts superstar but in the comics he's just as quick to use his fists and his nightstick to take down perps as he is to gun them down.

Overall it was a great way to bring back dredd but sadly its not done great business so either a sequel is unlikely or it may tone down the violence to get a lower rating. What didn't help it at the cinema was it being in 3d. When will Hollywood understand that 3d isn't wanted by the masses. There was hardly any 2d showings of dredd which killed its box office takings.

Having said all the above I do feel that the Stallone version of dredd gets far to much hate, I actually quite liked it. The first 20 mins is pure dredd, the uniform was ace, the action was cool and Stallone did a great dredd getting the stoney dead pan personality spot on. It only fell down when Stallone took the helmet off and from that moment on it became more of a Stallone action film than a dredd film. Still it had an accurate looking mega city one, we got to.see the angel gang and mean angels make up was spot on and we got more of the other judges. If Stallone had kept the uniform and helmet on and rob schnieder was bummed off the film would have been a stone cold cold classic.

Posted on 22 Jan 2013 08:43:32 GMT
Last edited by the author on 22 Jan 2013 08:47:26 GMT
Hmmm, I'm sorry but I'm firmly in the camp that says Stallone's Dredd was an awful film. Having read the comic since a kid I remember the build up to the film and being very disappointed as I walked from the cinema. In retrospect I think it was a product of its time and I compare it to Batman Forever (released the same year). While the purist in me finds it hard to see past the removal of the helmet if the film had been good I'd probably forgiven it. In contrast I loved Dredd. It nails so much of the comic for me. The depiction of Joe Dredd is perfect. Right down to his last few words. It's just a day, like any other, in his life. No more no less. And Anderson's little journey in the film feels very much like her character. She is an emotional and thoughtful centre in the comic and while that might seem like an anathema to Dredd he has a respect for her.
Also I thought the direction brilliant. Some shots, particularly of Dredd, felt like they'd been ripped straight from the comic. While Stallone's film wanted to cram known figures from the comic onto the screen without much purpose other than to say "hey isn't this cool!" Dredd is far more subtle. The Chopper tag made me grin.

Posted on 22 Jan 2013 09:07:42 GMT
chastermief says:
Agree that Dredd is now, finally, in safe hands. Stallone's film couldn't even handle the absolutely vital point that Dredd's helmet is welded to his head. I'd like to have seen more of MegaCity #1, but hopefully there'll be a next time.
Drop & Give Me Ten

Posted on 22 Jan 2013 10:08:17 GMT
Last edited by the author on 22 Jan 2013 10:09:01 GMT
The thing I'd love to see made is a film version of America. It's a story I'd rate as high as Watchmen and Batman The Dark Knight Returns. And maybe it has more relevance today than either of the other two. But I suspect if ( a very big if) another Dredd film was to be made I doubt it'll have the scope and reach of something like America. I'm proud 2000AD and JD Megazine are British comics but I often feel if they were American we'd have had a ton of films by now.

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 13:22:16 GMT
Cartimand says:
Watched the 3D blu-ray last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. OK so the story is the same as The Raid, but it's all done very stylishly and I thought the 3D was used to good effect - especially the slo-mo scenes, where blood and broken glass seems to come out of the screen.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 14:13:21 GMT
Wayne says:
"The thing I'd love to see made is a film version of America."

Totally agree this is a great story but it would never work as a film, for a start Dredd hardly appears nor does any other judge to be honest apart from fleeting glimpses to remind you the story is set in dredds world.

Its more of a love story mixed with a lot of social commentary regarding the state of society and its decline over the years.

Who would this story appeal to other than total and hardcore dredd fans. Any casual fans would go into it thinking its a dredd film and walk out disappointed that he hardly features.

Posted on 24 Jan 2013 00:03:16 GMT
The Bourne Legacy was terrible, pointless. Without Matt there is no point.

Dredd on the otherhand was fantastic! given its small budget the cgi was actually pretty amazing i thought, a very thought through and cohesive story, and excellent acting to boot! despite it being a box office failure, hopefully with enough dvd/blu ray sales it will get a sequel it really deserves.

Posted on 24 Jan 2013 08:42:36 GMT
byekitty says:
just seen it and loved it didn't realise that it didn't do too great at the box office but i think it will do well in dvd and blu-ray sales so im hoping that will be enough to secure sequels after all theres over 30 years of stories already there.

Posted on 24 Jan 2013 09:05:27 GMT
Very simple reasons why it didnt do well at the cinema, it has nothing to the quality of the fim.
A. it's 18 rated, they never do that well at the cinema
B. There was so many massive films out around the same time as Dredd, Bond was released just a month later, most people included me saved our money for that.
C. Dredd doesnt have a 5th of the audiance that say the Bat or Spidey does.

Non of these say anything about the films quality I get it will does really well on DVD/BR

BTW Stoddard- Bourne Legacy was great, has lots of point and works fine with out Mr Damon.. you are wrong ; ) ... ok it wasnt as good as the main Bourne films, but it was still a great movie IMO and sets up a new series of films very well and Jeremy Renner is just brilliant IMO.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2013 09:08:40 GMT
Last edited by the author on 24 Jan 2013 09:53:48 GMT
I know what you mean and you're right. I don't think something like America could be made under a Dredd film (though he is very present in the story) largely because as you say but also because it fully blurs the perception of him as a hero. However saying that for me I suppose 2000AD and often even the ones centred in MC1 aren't necessary only about the Judges, they're brilliant sci-fi fiction. And selfishly I'd like to see the America storyline because it infuses great subject matter alongside great sci-fi, something I'd like to see more in films.

Added to that America is a nice entry into the greater Democracy storyline which would lead nicely to a film covering the Necropolis story.

On a side note, I've always felt that Japan has had the right idea with anime and it's something I wished the UK embraced making more of. You can have massive science fiction settings, explosives, futuristic worlds and not have to dedicate millions and millions into it. It allows a certain amount of freedom in telling stories that push ideas and perceptions. Also looking towards Japan's live action films that don't seem to be overly bothered in trying to be like Hollywood or please the American market. They're made by and for the Japanese, and the Japanese buy and watch them. Maybe they don't have massive budgets but who cares.

EDIT: Will people stop saying that it's like The Raid. Because it just isn't.

Posted on 24 Jan 2013 11:00:39 GMT
Its just like the Raid, scene for scene ! ; )

Posted on 24 Jan 2013 11:10:10 GMT
The Raid is scene for scene like Die Hard! ;)

Posted on 24 Jan 2013 13:34:24 GMT
Last edited by the author on 24 Jan 2013 13:37:31 GMT
Wayne says:
Dredd was in production and had the story in place over a year before the raid was even thought of.

@Tetro

After your post the other day I went through my graphic novels and dug out America to have another read.

##spoilers##

Up to the bit where Benny changes sex dredd hardly appears in the story at all. There's a couple of other judges that pop up and when dredd does turn up he's not really a major focus of the story at all and certainly doesn't come across as a bad guy. The story itself makes the judges seem like nazis the way they rule with an iron fist but dredd shows Benny some compassion when another judge says he should be arrested for not coming forward sooner to grass up America.

##end spolier##

There is another chunk of the graphic novel I need to read but I assumed I was at the end if the America story and that the next chapter was a new story and just padding to make it worth buying the graphic novel.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2013 13:51:38 GMT
Batman the Dark knight returns is now available as 2 part DVD, its filmed almost exactly like the Frank Miller novel and frankly ist the best cartoon movie I ahve seen ina long long time.

anywaY i thought Dredd was great, much more like his comic character andn they really showed the restrictions and problems of their world, everyone squashed on top of one another and not enough police to do anything about it.

I have watched it 3 times now and loved it each time.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2013 14:41:45 GMT
Cartimand says:
"Its just like the Raid, scene for scene ! ; ) "

You're right. I made this very point in my review posted yesterday. Someone ripped someone else off here. There's too much similarity for this to be mere coincidence.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2013 15:07:27 GMT
"You're right. I made this very point in my review posted yesterday. Someone ripped someone else off here. There's too much similarity for this to be mere coincidence".

I was just winding Tetro up ive never seen Raid or Dredd ; )

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jan 2013 19:31:22 GMT
Cartimand says:
"ive never seen Raid or Dredd"

Well don't bother buying both of them. Watch one and you've pretty well seen the other as well!

Has there ever been such a blatant case of movie plagiarism before?
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