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Initial post: 30 Dec 2013 09:59:57 GMT
Post Soviet says:
I mean films with surreal, hallucinogenic content and how well Johnny Depp fits in all that. These kind of thoughts came to me after seeing recent Ben Wheatley's movie A Field In England, which felt trippy enough, but couldn't get rid thinking it reminded me something.
First of all, that Baloo song (nice one btw) reminded me of similarly moving Irish folk song sung by similarly scruffy bloke from Aussie western Proposition. Another thing, the manner of shooting in B & W plus trippy content reminded me very much one of my favourite films with Johnny Depp - Dead Man, not to forget Neil Young guitar in it's soundtrack. I am not accusing Wheatley of anything, just brooding...
So, first subject we could talk - trippy films in general, for instance Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas (Depp again!).
Second - if you've seen Depp in "normal" role, is it any good?

Posted on 30 Dec 2013 15:02:38 GMT
Last edited by the author on 30 Dec 2013 15:05:14 GMT
I find the literal translation of Fear and Loathing misses the mark for me. In my experience something else is happening when I've dropped acid or mushrooms. I've had horrific experiences and there's a moment in A Field in England that taps perfectly into it, far more than Fear and Loathing. Also the real bit that's clever in A Field in England imo, something that seems to stretch the mind, is the rapid cuts. The idea of "trippy" just tends to bore me. I'm reminded of the New Orleans bit near the end of Easy Rider. It's like how I imagine sitting at a early Pink Floyd gig (UFO club era) and not being high would have been like.
I have a massive fondness for Charlie Kaufman and find his labyrinth like screenplays reminding me of Kafka. The way the mind looping in on itself. I find Synecdoche, New York a work of genius or an utterly frustrating mess depending on what mood I'm in.
A film like Stalker feels trippy to me. The way it feels disconnected, its journey metaphorical, a non imposed space. I recently watched Only God Forgives, the way it reminds me of bits in Lost Highway and other Lynchian motifs. That airlessness I like also.

Films I think you might be more talking about, I like Alice (I'm a sucker for stop-motion animation) which feels to be taking back the Alice in Wonderland tale. Snatching it from Disney's grubby hands is only a good thing imo.
The Holy Mountain is one of the classic trippy films but the recent Holy Motors has a few surreal moments, especially the Monsieur Merde segment.

Posted on 30 Dec 2013 15:21:40 GMT
Wan't a normal depp film, try what's eating gilbert grape. a well made drama with an excellent performance by depp and an even better one by di caprio I might add. Can't really think of any thing that depp has been in that comes as close to normal as 'grape'.

Posted on 30 Dec 2013 15:41:13 GMT
Last edited by the author on 30 Dec 2013 16:09:00 GMT
Straight Depp films, Nick of Time, Donnie Brasco is a good crime drama imo, Before Night Comes, he's been in loads of such films. If I'm honest I much prefer his straight roles, when he does the whole pantomime routine my teeth grate.

Posted on 30 Dec 2013 17:21:04 GMT
Isabella says:
Thought he was good in 'Finding Neverland', about J.M.Barrie

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Dec 2013 21:02:04 GMT
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gille liath says:
I agree. Ninth Gate is another one.

I couldn't be bothered with F&L, though in general I like both Depp and Terry Gilliam. I gave up after about ten minutes. I guess that means I don't like 'trippy films' - unless it's something more mellow, like parts of Easy Rider or 2001.

Posted on 1 Jan 2014 15:49:24 GMT
Re.Johnny Depp agree with the above but found Secret Window a disappointment and like Mr.Tet. I find his pantomime routine a tad wearing now and done to death with "Pirates",etc.
As for trippy films,Cool World,Fritz The Cat,Altered States spring to mind but in my mid teens went to a Sci-Fi convention in Newcastle where they showed,amongst others,Slaughterhouse Five and Alphaville,which must be about the strangest piece of celluloid I have ever seen and would like to see again. Be Seeing You!!

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2014 15:54:40 GMT
LEP says:
Watched Alice in Wonderland with Depp as the Mad Hatter, over Christmas. The books are "trippy" enough with all their references to drugs and dreams, but this was even more so.

Posted on 2 Jan 2014 14:47:38 GMT
Crixus says:
Transcendence looks good.

Posted on 4 Jan 2014 18:35:46 GMT
Does no one reacon gilbert grape is one of his most 'normal' roles?

To Post soviet, how are you defining 'normal'?

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Jan 2014 10:28:34 GMT
Post Soviet says:
hi kevin, 'normal' to me means real life stories, as close to 'real' as possible. Includes films I've seen featuring Depp,
Donnie Brasco, I liked it
Public Enemies, hated it. 'Hate' is too strong, just 'meh'. That would be short analysis of the film.
Agree with previous posters statement about his 'pantomime routine'. I am not big Depp's fan, neither female, wich means his cheekbones having much lesser impact on me, so what I'm trying to say I like loads of fantasy, trippy, surreal films DESPITE Depp featuring in most of them.

What I call 'trippy' might put in two categorires, roughly,
First - straightforward ones, more about experience consuming different mind bending substances, like
Easy Rider, real classic
The Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas, love it, I think as much Depp was ott awful, Benicio Del Toro was excellent.
Dazed And Confused, nostalgic trip to pot smoking 70s schooldays, soundtrack from the era, good one.
Cheech & Chong Up In Smoke, episode in the beginning with cop stopping their car gets me in stitches.
Shrooms, it's horror, title says it all, episode with casually talking cow in the woods, good one.

Then 'trippy' less about drug experience, more I would call 'surreal', metaphorical, involving subconscious visions, clues etc. Surely Tarkovsky's Stalker, Mirror, Solaris, David Lynch films, Begotten would fit in second category.
Plus plain weird stuff. Alice In Wonderland (depp again, don't mind), Beyond The Black Rainbow, Cube, John Dies At The End etc.

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Jan 2014 11:34:13 GMT
With that detailed definition of 'trippy' i would include michael winner's under-rated 'the sentinel' with it's pretty surreal imagery of 'real' deformed people in the woman's nightmares.

Posted on 6 Jan 2014 15:22:57 GMT
C. J. Taylor says:
I can't belive no-one has mentioned BLOW yet !!
Johnny Depp plays George Jung, the man who established the American cocaine market in the 1970s. This is a cracker of a movie !!

Posted on 6 Jan 2014 15:33:21 GMT
kinjoking says:
edward scissor hands has always creeped me out from when i was a little kid, still cant watch it all the way through

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jan 2014 16:46:53 GMT
Blow is a decent crime biog but i prefer donnie brasco, depp & pacino are both excellent in that.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jan 2014 16:57:32 GMT
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Blastronaut says:
Jacob's Ladder might be worth a watch Sovs, if ya haven't seen it before. Throws yer head about a bit, but a pretty good flick imo. Long time since I last saw it tho.

Posted on 11 Jan 2014 08:10:29 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Jan 2014 08:10:56 GMT
J.Yasimoto says:
Vanishing Point (1971) is a good trippy movie. A Scanner Darkly also has it's moments. Other films I find quite trippy are the Ghibli ones - probably the pick of the bunch is Spirited Away.
And nobody does surreal like Lynch (Lost Highway, Blue Velvet, etc.)

Posted on 11 Jan 2014 11:22:53 GMT
Cult 80's gem 'Xtro' is quite trippy at times, especially the 'full grown man' birth scene and ***plot spoiler*** when the toy soldier comes to life and kills the old woman.

Posted on 15 Jan 2014 20:19:19 GMT
mister joe says:
Ahhh....Xtro.....that movie has haunted my subconscious for years.....
Whether its because I watched it as a kid I don't know but I found it unsettling.
I don't really know what trippy means....well my definition is maybe wrong.
Enter The Void is that trippy?
Seriously Howard The Duck is bizarre.Return To Oz.
Visitor Q.Machinist.Requiem For A Dream.
Johnny Depp movies I like are Ed Wood.Dead Man,Scissorhands.
Rum Diary was an awful let down....and I am beyond bored of the Burton collaborations.
I actually quite enjoyed Lone Ranger.....

Posted on 15 Jan 2014 20:25:51 GMT
mister joe says:
I watched Lost Highway other night and agree with trippy thing.
One of my favourite scenes[now decided to be amongst scanners exploding head,e.t's bike flying across moon]ever is mystery man approaching Fred with that whole
"I am at your house..."
so funny,disturbing,bizarre,unpalletable someone has both the genius and audacity to write something like that.
I was so intrigued by this kabuki mad man in the film I looked up Robert Blake....I assume everyone knows the story....a character to say the least.
What was disappointing though was to hear him claim Highway was one of the movies he regrets.
I know he is hardly in it but I think that performance rules.
One of my favourites.

Posted on 15 Jan 2014 20:28:44 GMT
mister joe says:
Before Night Falls.
Not comes.

Posted on 15 Jan 2014 20:47:34 GMT
Last edited by the author on 15 Jan 2014 20:48:36 GMT
"what was most disappointing though was to hear him claim Highway was one of the movies he regrets"

I suppose he thoroughly enjoyed making the "Oscar winner" Money train with Harrelson & "tax avoider" snipes. Fool!:(

Posted on 15 Jan 2014 20:49:30 GMT
mister joe says:
Money Train was actually the other movie.....he said there was two.
Is he a villain in that?
I would consider watching him in that.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jan 2014 21:03:26 GMT
Yeah he was the boss of the train that harrelso & snipes plan to rob.

What was it he most disliked about starring in Highway?

Posted on 15 Jan 2014 22:00:14 GMT
mister joe says:
I watched this interview that's on youtube.....I think it was called hearts and mind or something.
He is just walking about his apartment talking.Unfortunately he just skims in regards to the "two movies he regrets",he just says about doing movies that other people told him would be a good idea.
Money Train he just said was awful and Lost Highway "mad".And that's it.
As I said I loved him in Highway and that's whats flickered my interest.Also I read that he came up with that whole look for mystery man.
Obviously there was the whole scandal concerning the death of his wife so maybe Lost Highway,with its themes of death,personality fugues etc is a bit close to the bone.
I mean the film contains a dude killing his wife.
Going back to trippy how about Videodrome and Dead Ringers?
"It's not the instruments that are wrong,its the bodies"
Also Gasper Noe's previous movie Irreversible is pretty headache inducing.
That and Ghostbusters are my most memorable cinema viewings.
With Irreversible it was like people had read about the content and paid a ticket just to walk out.
Its the only time I have seen people stand up and deliver lectures about how sick and offended they were.By the middle of the movie 4 people next to me had left as well as another 10 or so.
I was counting.
I actually took a date on that movie.I thought it was really cool though I never saw the girl again...looking back it was all a tad Travis Bickle.
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