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In reply to an earlier post on 13 May 2012 03:03:34 BDT
I. Buchan says:
Difficult to prove exactly what mythical language a mythical character speaks ;-)

Posted on 13 May 2012 05:40:08 BDT
How about when Keith Richards and Ron Wood talk? It's "supposed" to be "English," but many can't "unnerstan' 'em."

In reply to an earlier post on 13 May 2012 05:46:03 BDT
What about Angie Jolie's Vlad-the-Impaler "accent" in "Alexander"? WTF was THAT about?!?

What was wrong with Colin Farrell's accent in "Daredevil," anyway?

In reply to an earlier post on 13 May 2012 05:49:21 BDT
Go on -- YOU tell Connery to "hide" his accent!

Btw, anyone see the recurring bit on Saturday Night Live (a few years back, Will Ferrell-era) when "Sean Connery" was a participant on the game-show "Jeopardy"? Classic!

Posted on 14 May 2012 03:03:12 BDT
Mestius says:
wow one thing came straight to my mind when i saw this thread and i cant believe no ones mentioned it, well not that i could see anyway lol.
tommy lee jones in blown away. couldnt honestly get through that movie. kept laughing too much

Posted on 14 May 2012 07:06:53 BDT
Last edited by the author on 14 May 2012 07:12:57 BDT
re: Mestius: No one mentioned it because they forced themselves to FORGET IT because it was so heinous! D**n you for bringing it up & reminding me/us!

I can't recall her name just now but there was a UK actress playing an American on a few episodes of "Spooks" ("MI-5" o'er here) in season 8 or 9...of course, she played an evil American (nearly every "American" character on that show is evil, y'know) but her accent was all over the place! One minute she sounded as if she was from the South (Kentucky, maybe), then Boston ("Bawwstinn"), then whatever country Kevin Costner is from this week...jeez.

"The day is mine." - Sean Connery in some movie or on SNL

Posted on 15 May 2012 05:38:53 BDT
kurt's fan says:
batman accent in Dark Knight, excruciating

Posted on 15 May 2012 08:31:30 BDT
Sou'Wester says:
I'm intrigued by this constant talk of an "American" accent, as if there is one common style that covers this entire land. Consider that in tiny England you'll find many different accents and dialects (and often great variations of these within a single county) and yet we seem (quite erroneously) to lump all Americans into one group. It's a bit like saying someone can't do an American accent 'cos they don't sound like Lloyd Grossman!!
As for any production dealing with an historical subject (i.e. more than about 200 years ago) the accent question becomes immaterial because they would all have been so different from those we know today. Aware that I'm now slipping into the very kind of generalisation I've just criticised, but consider that 200-300 years ago "English" and "American" accents would have been much closer (not surprisingly as many Americans were newly settled from the old country); some scholars declare that English accents have actually changed more than American accents over the years. It's not unreasonable to suppose, therefore, that an American actor might be a tad more authentic in playing an 18th century Englishman than a present-day English actor!

Posted on 15 May 2012 10:42:29 BDT
I found Christian Bale's accent in 'The Prestige' to be very grating and i couldnt take his character seriously.
Very good film, but almost ruined because of the random choice of accent!?

Posted on 15 May 2012 11:42:29 BDT
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Posted on 15 May 2012 13:32:43 BDT
M. Roberts says:
Russell Crowe in Robin Hood! i thought it was worse than costners as it had bad elements of yorkshire, geordie, scots and irish in it!
Don Cheadle in Oceans 11.

Posted on 15 May 2012 14:57:02 BDT
Gryzler says:
Richard Roxburgh (Hugh Stamp) in Mission Impossible 2.
Not an obvious choice for most people maybe, but if you've got a copy of the film, please tell me WHERE his accent is supposed to be from!

Posted on 15 May 2012 15:12:24 BDT
Sou'Wester says:
Frankly, anyone portraying Robin Hood is using the "wrong" accent. We're talking here presumably about a 13th. century character. How people spoke then would be more-or-less incomprehensible to anyone today apart from a specialist scholar. Older folk will probably remember the 1950s Robin Hood series; the theme song was often criticised because it was sung in an American accent ("Rahbin Hood, Rahbin Hood, rardin' through the glen etc.!) but actually it was no more inaccurate that the dialogue, delivered for the most part in standard "BBC" English!

Posted on 15 May 2012 17:16:32 BDT
R. Moore says:
I feel I need to defend poor old Anton Yelchin here. He can speak fluent Russian however, the producers decided (for continuities sake with the original series) to give him coaching lessons, from an American speech coach, to speak an American bastardized version of Russian. To fall in line with what Walter K did. They though that, we the viewing public/fans, would not accept an authentic Russian accent as it would not fall in line with how we remember the character.

As for me I'm not really bothered with accents, don't tend to notice them and they don't distract me from the film. Scripts are paramount. Everyone can speak American as far as I'm concerned, as long as the script is good and I can understand it.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 May 2012 02:17:19 BDT
I. Buchan says:
Sou'Wester says:- Quite correct although the Legend of Robin Hood and characters are more likely to be 12th century period .with very few actually chronicled historical people, certainly Richard I and his brother John existed as the plantagenet Kings 1189-1216 total with Richard's reign app. 9 years only and most of which was outside England . All Nobles will have spoken French with a few Saxon as well which died out rapidly. Henry II (first Plantagenet father French - Great-Grandfather King David of Scotland-Mother decended from King David. However with all that said it is unlikely that the Robin Hood legend was created before the 15th century. - And we still love to see the Rich as baddies and love the idea that they can be brought to earth by a Hero who represents the common folk. In conclusion any accent should not matter although to us - it just feels better if it is English. Keep well all ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on 16 May 2012 13:15:29 BDT
M. Roberts says:
yes obviously you are correct so well done. However, my objection to R Crowes accent was the inconsistency of it. As this forum is about accents ruining films rather than the legitimacy of the accents in question i feel my post stands. Peace!

Posted on 17 May 2012 13:30:14 BDT
For me it would be Johhny Depp in Sleepy Hollow

Posted on 17 May 2012 13:52:14 BDT
J. R. Webb says:
Definitely Tommy Lee Jones in Blown Away. Shocking!

In reply to an earlier post on 17 May 2012 14:32:45 BDT
Sou'Wester says:
I think that's a fair point. If actors can't maintain an accent throughout a production they'd be much better off sticking to their own natural mode of speech.
That said, one's accent can change very quickly in altered circumstances. I was once forced to leave civilisation and spend six months living and working in Leeds; when I came home everyone wanted to know why I was talking in a Yorkshire accent!

In reply to an earlier post on 18 May 2012 03:31:51 BDT
C. Hill says:
A passable french accent? Being french probably helps there.

Posted on 19 May 2012 09:16:30 BDT
Avatouir says:
Interestingly enoughthis thread starts with Kevin Costner's Robin Hood. Of course RH was BEFORE we occupied the States (yes some Americans are actually related to british settlers so the "accent" is valid in a way)

But how about the Oiarish arkscents in that Murder she worote specisal they always show on British TV. The bad accents and stereotyping only serves to make it hilarious. Especially since it was probably filmed entirely in california

In reply to an earlier post on 27 May 2012 15:29:06 BDT
sistermoon says:
The Oirish accents in Murder She Wrote were equalled again by Angela Lansbury with her Mockney accent in 'Mrs. 'Arris Goes To Paris'. This was not a Viz tie-in, by the way.

Posted on 27 May 2012 16:28:19 BDT
A customer says:
What about Derick Jacobi's Jamaican accent in 1978s Everyone Deserves To Die
or Ralph Richardson's working-class Durham miner in 1955s Dreaming of Sophie
and I can never sit through 1988s action flick Destination Kill without sniggering at Bruce Willis' Russian hitman's cod Muscovite

Posted on 27 May 2012 17:32:12 BDT
J. Smith says:
Just about every film that Gerard Butler has made where he attempts an American accent. And what is more annoying is that he talks out the side of his mouth when he's doing it!! Whats that all about??

In reply to an earlier post on 27 May 2012 19:16:49 BDT
Sou'Wester says:
Ironically enough, Angela Lansbury is a cockney, having been born in Poplar, but as she has spent most of her life in the U.S. any trace of her childhood origins has presumably long passed. I did see her perform as Mrs. Lovett in the original stage version of "Sweeney Todd" - don't remember much about her accent but she was extremely good in the part. I suppose "Murder She Wrote" gained her good financial security in later life, but it's a shame that such an accomplished actress is now probably best remembered for one of the most puerile detective series on TV.
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