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Posted on 12 Jul 2010 16:27:53 BDT
I served in a light tank unit for 3 years and even saw a little action..... some serbs mortared me.

Explosions in films are always far more impressive than in real life. I fired a 66mm rocket at an old armoured car on a range once. HUGE backblast, rocket slams into the tank...... then goes 'dumf' and there's a little bit of dust thrown up. No huge fireball, no huge bang. All the explosive charge does is to cut a hole about 3mm across in the armour and put a pencil thin jet of white hot flame into the crew area incinerating the crew. Even being on the wrong end of a mortar while unbelievably terrifying doesn't have much 'effect'. A fairly quiet 'dumf' and some dust and muck thrown in the air.

The only thing I saw that REALLY impressed me was two A-10 tank busters shooting up a T55 on a range in Northern England. Because the A10's were behind us and the bullets supersonic (yup... they were shooting over us. Probably not as intended) the tank fell apart totally silently and only a few seconds later did we here the impacts and the gun actually firing. It was like a huge invisible angle grinder came out of the sky and silently sanded the top of the tank off. If you did it in a film people wouldn't wonder why the sound was out of synch.

For movie explosions there's usually plenty of petrol inside whatever is being blown up to make the fireball and quite often white phosphorous (you can see the white streamers as it flies out). They normally put old tyres into the mix for plenty of black smoke and cut fracture lines in panels (or even spring load them) so that there's plenty of flying material. If a car is blown up in the air its because its been positioned on a big catapult. A few gallons of petrol doesn't have the power to fling 2 ton cars about. Its far more impressive than real life but complete nonsense at the same time.

Posted on 12 Jul 2010 17:14:21 BDT
"some serbs mortared me"

Peter im not taking the p*ss but that line is class. In my head i can just see some Serbian lads on a hill(in shellsuits). One says to another "Hey is that Pete Symonds?," "IT sure is sarge," Sarge looks at the private and says "Get the mortar!"

Posted on 13 Jul 2010 10:53:53 BDT
Hahaha! I did take it personally at the time but fortunately it was pretty incompetent stuff. I can B.S about it now but at the time it was terrifying.... probably about 12-15 bombs over a minute (if it had been Brits firing there'd have been 12-15 bombs in air before the first one landed) but to me it felt like the exploding trees bit in 'Band of Brothers'. God knows how the guys in the Somme stayed sane after 1 million big shells had been fired at them constantly by pro's for a week.

I was TA attached to a regular unit... no-one wanted to actually kill UN troops (or rather no one would dare kill us) but we got constant harrassment and the odd round fired our way. Pretty miserable summer really.

The really weird thing is a lot of them DID wear shellsuits!

Posted on 13 Jul 2010 12:03:23 BDT
Shellsuits are the height of stealth. When they rustle the enemy thinks it's the wind and are put at ease.

Posted on 13 Jul 2010 14:52:40 BDT
Stealthy unless the enemy has matches..... then you get a better special effect than predator!

Posted on 13 Jul 2010 15:12:12 BDT
Chavs could have a career in special effects!:)

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2010 20:47:31 BDT
Exactly. The explosions in Predator are rubbish compared with real ones. I have made things go bang before and they were far more realistic by comparison. For extra danger I wore a shell suit, risking melted plastic bonded burns to panty area due to stray sparks or engulfment. I live on the edge.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2010 20:50:48 BDT
Last edited by the author on 15 Jul 2010 20:52:16 BDT
The interesting thing about shellsuits and similar attire favored by the more ruffianesque members of society, are part of the illuminati sanctioned 'targetwear' range of clothing. The people most likely to be involved in civil strife, rioting and other street crimes are easy to target wearing sports tops, hoodies and other fashion items. See how many of these garments incorporate a logo over the heart. Left hand side logos are handy for the snipers you see. Hence, Targetwear. Manley P Hall was right all along...

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jul 2010 09:07:34 BDT
J.Yasimoto says:
"Nice Guy" Eddie. Now THERE was a man who could wear a shellsuit...

Posted on 28 Jul 2010 21:40:55 BDT
Dela says:
I seen a worse explosion in a big budget film the other day... Get on it...

When the top of the Nakatomi Plaza explodes at the end of the original 'Die Hard'... Shockingly bad eighties CGI visual effect...

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jul 2010 22:27:52 BDT
Targetwear in effect though, he got shooted!

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Jul 2010 22:30:32 BDT
You are right, that is a bad effect. It was a bigger explosion than the ones in Predator though. They are still feeble in comparison. There is a badder effect in Die Hard 2 when the ejector seat comes up to the camera above the exploding plane. Really bad 'blue or green whatever color it is now' screen effect.
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