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  • Format: PAL
  • Region: Region 2 (This DVD may not be viewable outside Europe. Read more about DVD formats.)
  • Number of discs: 1
  • Classification: 18
  • Studio: Warner Home Video
  • DVD Release Date: 14 Aug 2006
  • Average Customer Review: 4.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (11 customer reviews)
  • ASIN: B000CDIO0I
  • Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: 11,191 in DVD (See Bestsellers in DVD)

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It's 1881 in New Mexico, and the times they are a'changing. Pat Garrett, erstwhile travelling companion of the outlaw Billy the Kid has become a sheriff, tasked by cattle interests with ridding the territory of Billy. After Billy escapes, Pat assembles a posse and chases him through the territory, culminating in a final confrontation at Fort Sumner, but is unaware of the full scope of the cattle interests' plans for the New West.

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27 of 27 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars a great new edition, 31 Jan 2006
Having a multi-regional dvd player has enabled me to watch the new double-disc edition early.

I have waited a long time for this classic movie, one of my favourites, to appear on dvd. I saw the original theatrical version in Bristol when it first came out, and then later the Turner preview version (which is the second disc here). Now comes this one. I don't have access to Sam Peckinpah's thoughts on the new version, so I have no opinion on whether this was the version he would have chosen, but it is certainly my favourite (so far - maybe there's another version hanging around??). The commentary on both versions - the 1988 Turner preview and the 2005 version - is well worth listening to.

The only omission I regretted from the new version was the line from Chill Wills about what his "woe-man" was prepared to do with cowboy boots. The editors admitted they didn't understand it - they confuse it with some joke once made by Earl Butz which got him the sack from the Ford cabinet back in 1975, but it's much filthier than that joke. I think this is a commendable commentary on the editors' minds, as it is is one of the filthiest lines I have heard in cinema, but missing it out from the new version detracts from the obscenely humorous passage. On second thoughts, maybe it's best to keep your mind as clean as the 2005 editors by not thinking about the meaning of that line, and for me to pretend I don't understand it...

You can also argue about whether the Dylan vocals of Knocking on Heaven's Door should have been added. Perhaps this is personal taste, but I was really glad the 2005 editors did. Dylan is central to the film, and his inclusion as Alias is needed - he is the silent witness, the writer of what he sees.

Generally, the new version is tighter in focus. The main changes were very good. The scene in which the cowardly sadist Poe knocks out a couple of old men is deleted because it detracts from the focus on garrett and Billy. A scene about Garrett's wife was added, showing how artificial and dead was Garrett's new life of respectability. He prefers to have his sex with several whores at once. There is the added scene with the whore Ruthie Lee, which is abusive and violent - a needed counterpoint to Billy's more sensual sexuality, and crucial to the story line too. Importantly, the raft scene - where Garrett and a family man on a raft decide not to kill each other, a striking few minutes - is rightly brought forward in the movie to integrate it with the character study which is the essence of this film. Now it adds to the lyrical quality of the film's development.

Pat Garrett is the centre of the film, not Billy. If The Wild Bunch is about men getting old and being pushed to the margins of an advancing civilisation before being destroyed, this film is about a man who surrenders to civilisation. He is not going to get destroyed, so he sides with the money-powers which he hates but knows are too powerful to defeat. The slow degradation of character which results from his decision to kill his own youth makes this movie genuinely mesmerising - truly great art. The fact that Garrett is going to be killed by those powers anyway heightens the sense of tragedy, and this role must be one of Coburn's greatest feats of acting.

And what a great decision to end the movie not with Garrett's death, but with the boy throwing stones at him as he rides out - the look in Garrett's whole body indicating that he agrees with the boy. What a movie...the editors cannot be thanked enough.

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20 of 20 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars In my top ten, 1 Feb 2006
By Bruce R. Duthie "devi8_tor" (Aberdeen, Scotland) - See all my reviews
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If I listed my top ten movies this would have to be one of them.
I'm not really a fan of westerns but this stands out as a truely unique and fantastic film regardless of the fact it's a western.
It's directed by Sam Peckinpah who also made The Wild Bunch. While films like The Wild Bunch and Easy Rider are regarded to have changed cinema (with unglamorous realistic depictions of their characters and dialogue) I think that this film tops them both. Virtually every scene in the film is a beautiful set-piece, with dialogue heavy with meaning and under-currents relating to the relationships between the characters. The cinematography is beautiful and I'm very glad that I'll finally have the film in widescreen as opposed to the 4:3 aspect VHS release. Bob Dylan is one of the characters and does the soundtrack - Knockin' On Heaven's Door was written especially for one of the scenes in the film. It stuns me that this film isn't better known and has only just received a DVD release because it's one of the most violent, poignant and perfect films ever made.
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15 of 15 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Interesting movie, 10 Nov 2006
By M. Lyle (Larne, N Ireland) - See all my reviews
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There have been now been several different cuts of this film over the years, and despite this worthy DVD i am sure the definitive cut is yet to come. The TCM version is probably the most famous, having been shown nunerous times on that channel over the years, and it is included on the second disc.

However, it is the "new" version that will be of most interest here. Some of the major complaints have been addressed, most notably the inclusion of Bob Dylan's absurdly/wonderfully famous song "Knockin' on Heaven's door" at the appropraite moment in the film's narrative. How many people have hummed or sang that tune over the years without even knowing that it came from this film?

For anyone who does not know, this is a very, very violent yet slow-moving film which was massively panned by all and sundry on its original release in the 70's. Over the years though it has grown in popularity and it is now fast becoming a rediscovered classic. One of the most striking things about it for me is its realism...we see toilets, baths, whorehouses, shared beds, food larders...basically its a warts and all view of life in the west. And it is not a pleasant place...

The underlying point of the film is of course the erosion of freedom caused by the establishment of private property during the formative years of America. The film mournes the death of the outlaw, in this case Billy the Kid (Kris K)being hunted down by the brooding Pat Garret (James Coburn.) Bob Dylan famously plays "Alias"- "Alias anything you want.."-and serves as a rather weird but highly entertaing medium between the two main protagonists.

One of the worst thing about the 2005 cut is the inclusion of an awful scene featuring Garrett's wife, with is clearly out of place and deserved to be left on the cutting floor. An equally poor piece of editing comes with regard to the character of Poe. To me his horrible-but-successful character is crucial to the film...his brutal beating of an old man is the key to finding the kid on the Turner version, and to edit it out of this version is to give in to the worst sort of political correctness.

Worst of all though has to be the editor's choice to remove one of the most powerful lines from any film I have ever seen, namely when Coburn shouts to Poe soon after Billy's death that "What you want and what you get are two different things." In a way this is the film's real message because you can apply it to each character and perspecive on show in the film, and to omit it is an act of sheer arrogance. The actual editors here are two Peckinpah biographers, and frankly I would rate their efforts as a C-. The inclusion of the Turner version though still makes this a decent purchase for any Western or Dylan fan.

The whole Dylan angle on the film though is disappointing downplayed on the commentary. There were considerable problems on set, with Peckinpah allegedly not having any real clue as to who Dylan was, while the music editor also hated what Dylan was providing. Only Dylan could have turned these potential disasters into what must justly be called a "haunting" soundrack. As if to add an element an mystery, the resulting studio album Dylan produced was just over 30 minutes long, and mostly comprised of acoustic numbers, with the addition of several stunning version of the "Billy" songs added on.

Any Dylan fan worth his salts will also know of several other classic songs not included on the official CD, including the hilarious but moving "Good-bye Holly". A hardcore Dylan fan could easily improve this DVD by either doing a Dylan-centric commentary or even a new soundtrack incorporating the "lost" tunes. He or she could also do us all a favour by putting back the removed scenes...I am available for the job if needed.



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