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~ Anthony [1] Collins (Composer), Edward Elgar (Composer), David Lloyd-Jones (Conductor), BBC Concert Orchestra (Orchestra), David Owen Norris (Piano)
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  • Orchestra: BBC Concert Orchestra
  • Conductor: David Lloyd-Jones
  • Composer: Anthony [1] Collins, Edward Elgar
  • Audio CD (7 Feb 2005)
  • SPARS Code: DDD
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Epoch
  • ASIN: B0007L7OEM
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
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Robert Walker’s performing realisation of Elgar’s Piano Concerto from the composer’s sketches, drafts and recordings, performed by David Owen Norris and the BBC Concert Orchestra conducted by David Lloyd-Jones, is accompanied by a supporting programme of Elgarian arrangements and revivals featuring the BBC Singers.

Alongside the Third Symphony Elgar was also sketching his Piano Concerto. Elgar actually began his Piano Concerto in 1913, twenty-one years before his death. While we can never know just how he would have put this Concerto together, we do know WHAT he would have put in it. What was needed was someone with the insight to see how it could fit together to make a great piece. To do this takes a musician of considerable knowledge and discrimination and it is good to be able to welcome composer Robert Walker’s performing edition of Elgar’s Concerto. This has been developed through several performances over a number of years, in association with the pianist David Owen Norris, who plays it here. Walker knows Elgar so well that they sound exactly like the real thing.

Until now, all we had heard of the Piano Concerto was a version of the slow movement. Robert Walker’s realisation of the third movement uses Elgar’s shorter and more tantalising sketches to flesh out a recorded improvisation by Elgar himself, a brilliant Rondo. This splendidly Elgarian concerto allows us to hear Elgar’s themes in a convincing setting. It’s as close as we can come to hearing how Elgar himself might have brought it to a conclusion.

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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Not perfect but definitely worth hearing, 10 May 2006
By Paul Dalheim (Beverley UK) - See all my reviews
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Whilst it does not have the impact of the Elgar/Payne 3rd Symphony, this is still worth listening to. After the first hearing it remains relatively bland, but after repeated listening it does feel more Elgarian.
It is clear that much thought has been put into the work both by Walker and Owen Norris: the information in the booklet about the genesis/reconstruction is of great interest for lovers of Elgar. However the result is pleasant rather than striking (as in the case of the 3rd symphony).
Whilst I shall continue to listen regularly to the work, I do not find that it has the same impact as the "real" Elgar - but then its composer does not claim this.
Certainly it is good that the sketches, notes etc have been made availabe for public hearing. It is a disc that lovers of Elgar will wish to own, even it may not be the one that they play the most.
The other pieces on the disc are pleasant, particularly the orchestral miniatures, which could easily be taken for Elgar's own work.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Difficult Listening- even for Elgarians! But with some reward, 22 April 2006
By Mr. S. J. Bonsor "bonsor2" (Horley, Surrey UK) - See all my reviews
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This is a difficult piece to get your head around: the concept is strange enough- an original 'Elgar' concerto derived from the abortive sketches, recorded improvisations and a more or less complete slow movement. Get beyond that idea and you're confronted with a work which has strong Elgarian content but none of the easy logic of either of the other 'true' Elgar concertos.

The precedent was set by Anthony Payne when he made his superb elaboration (completion) of the Third Symphony sketches: Such a fine job in fact that there is nothing to show the symphony as anything other than the real deal from the hands of the master. In this concerto Robert Walker has had the same role in bringing the piece to fruition and the work as we have it here is of normal concerto length. The CD booklet is at pains to indicate that, unlike the Third Symphony, almost all the Piano Concerto materials are Elgar's own.

This doesn't mean that the process was plain sailing. Walker, together with the soloist David Owen Norris have had several attempts at refining the score, including a disastrous outing at the Three Choirs Festival where the Piano Concerto was nearly 50 minutes long (the recording of that version of the piece has not been released.....):Hence more than the usual blood,sweat and tears!

Add into the mixture, just to complicate matters, Elgar's own ambivalence towards the piano. He was hardly a virtuoso on the keyboard (but he was'nt a virtuouso cellist either, yet still managed to produce the cellists' favourite concerto...)and his piano playing was described as indiosyncratic and 'orchestral', implying that he primarily used the instrument to try out various tone colours when composing. His compositions for solo piano are few and tend to be miniatures, though he did record several 'improvisations' straight to wax in 1930: Owen Norriss makes a convincing case for these being rather more through-composed than might at first be imagined, and fitting together with various sketches make a more wholehearted attempt at a Piano Concerto on Elgar's part than could previously have been discerned.

I have to say that this work is not likely to hit the mark on a single hearing. I am not convinced that the concerto, as recorded, makes the full leap into life that the Third Symphony does. However, the piece does become clearer with repeated listening, and it and I have reached an understanding over numerous hearings.

Perhaps it does not work so well because the piano part is not as demonstrative or sharply defined as the Violin or Cello Concertos: we can be thankful for the thematic material (including a Third Symphony theme), which is as vigorous and strong as anything in the established Elgar canon.

I do not believe, despite his involvement in the gestation of this work, that Owen Norris is as powerful a pianist as this music demands to make a true impact: we must wait and see if any other pianist takes up the challenge.In support, David Lloyd Jones and the BBC Concert Orchestra play with full conviction.

The accompanying programme provides Elgar afficionados with a few valuable rarities but the one real gem is Anthony Collins' impressive and moving 'Elegy for Elgar' written in 1942. The piece uses a thematic fragment from the Third Symphony as the basis for a taut and deeply-felt symphonic movement. A pity Collins did not write more in this vein.

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9 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Required Listening, 27 Feb 2005
By J. Jepson (East Midlands) - See all my reviews
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This wonderful disc centres on a technically outstanding and utterly convincing convincing construction of the piano concerto that Elgar never quite got round to writing. Based on several 'fragments' including actual recorded improvisations of Elgar himself, it shows Robert Walker's profound understanding of Elgar's compositional technique and, more importantly perhaps, musical personality. It is at turns both a joyful and moving experience. Added value here comes in smaller offerings from Anthony Payne and others and an original 'Elegy in Memory of EE' by Anthony Collins - all deserving wider attention. Seriously recommended.
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