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by Samuel R. Delany (Author)
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  • Paperback: 193 pages
  • Publisher: Gollancz; Re-issue edition (11 Mar 1999)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 1857988051
  • ISBN-13: 978-1857988055
  • Product Dimensions: 19.4 x 12.8 x 1.6 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars See all reviews (10 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: 81,580 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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In 1967, Samuel R. Delany was young, gay, black and possibly the hippest person on the planet. He was to write more perfect books than Babel-17, but it is perhaps the most delightful, clever and sensual of his works. Its set pieces--an extended wander through space-dock bars as poetess and code-breaker Rydra Wong assembles a crew for desperate adventures; a high society dinner that turns into mayhem; Rydra's subversion/seduction of the sinister Butcher, who cannot say, or think, I, me or mine--are glorious in their arrogant sense that no-one has ever been this smart before. Rydra is one of those protagonists whom the author loves because he identifies with her, whom we love because we are overwhelmed by his infatuation. And the plot? Invaders from another part of human space are using as code a language which cannot be broken, and Rydra must save the day. As a meditation on language and thought, this is as sharp as its decor. Most important, though, is the complex, polymorphous sexiness of the whole thing--its sense of surgical chimerahood, life after death, and clone assassins as just unbearably hot and really really cool. --Roz Kaveney

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In the far future, after human civilization has spread through the galaxy, communications begin to arrive in an apparently alien language. They appear to threaten invasion, but in order to counter the threat, the messages must first be understood.

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6 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars You liked it -so will I !, 2 Jul 2000
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This is a real piece of science fiction. Set in the far future in a time when Humans have colonised the galaxy. The Alliance have recieved a number of sabotage attempts and the only clue are recordings of a strange 'code' - named Babel-17. Rydra Wong, a captain and poet, holds the key to translation. We are taken on a well described world as Rydra brings together a crew and then embarks on a mission to decipher what it all means. It is soon discovered that Babel-17 is not just a code but a strange enigmatic language!

This is quite a heavy going book in parts - plenty of techno-babble. The characters are well drawn - Rydra Wong , The Butcher and The Baron are really memorable. The situations and scenarios are interesting.

I did feel that some of the sections were a little muddled and the dialogue difficult to follow, but this in some way added to the feel. This book really dealt with communication and the lack of it.

I would certainly keep faith with this book as the story explains itself in the final Chapters.

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4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars It's OK but a Masterwork? Really? 3.5 stars, 15 Feb 2006
By A. Morley (Ripley, UK) - See all my reviews
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I wasn’t overly impressed by Babel-17 in that it had quite poor characterization and some quite bizarre (but wonderful) concepts in it. The problem is that there are a few sequences that involve space warfare and having just finished Ender’s Game a few weeks ago I quite underwhelmed and thought sometimes ‘Why would they do that and not this?’

Forward to the good things then. I enjoyed the ‘discorporate’ souls and the central story of how language can form thought (the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis). I enjoyed the thriller-like story that forms much of the middle of the book as the main protagonist Rydra Wong must warn various places in the solar system that they are about to be bombed.

Overall it’s worth a read but I was quite disappointed when compared with other Masterworks.

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4.0 out of 5 stars Idea better than the execution, 1 Aug 2007
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I was stuck at Gatwick Airport (England) desperate for a good sci-fi book, and to my utter amazement I stumbled across Babel-17 in the Departure Lounge bookstore. The subject matter intrigued me, as I am very interested in the Sapir-Whorf view that thinking and behaviour are largely shaped by one's language. Babel-17 did not lead me where I wanted to go, but it raised some very interesting ideas (language as weapon, etc) and probed other aspects of communication such as telepathy (the young Rydra scared of the myna bird because she `sees' what it sees - i.e. a big worm, is a quite frightening aspect of telepathy I had not considered before) all of which I found interesting. One of the reviewers below said that they did not understand the significance of `I' and `You' and the whole Butcher aspect of the novel. Butcher's inability to express or understand the concept of `I', i.e. the self, is fundamental to the book's main theme - that is, in the beginning was the word - we are the word, we are language, we are syntax and grammar, what we say is what we are - without comprehending `I' you can place no value on your self. There is a lot of credibility to such a theory, and it has often been argued that the best way to understand another race, culture, etc, is to learn their language.

Of course, Samuel's intellectual capacity is far short of say, Polish writer, Stanislaw Lem, whose novels and treatises on language, meta-language and prognolinguistics, far surpass the musings of a mere Harlem boy, but Babel-17 is a commendable effort all the same, more so for the fact that it deals with an aspect of science-fiction rarely given importance by most speculative writers.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Babel-17 a worthy classic
Babel-17 by Samuel R.Delany is a masterpiece. I suppose that is why it earns it's worthy place in the Science Fiction Masterworks series. Read more
Published on 5 Jun 2003 by G. Morgan

5.0 out of 5 stars Multi-Plexed Jewels
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was Babel-17. And from the Word understanding flowed, and gave substance to the material world. A Symbol: a Name: Rydra Wong. Read more
Published on 10 Nov 2002 by Patrick Shepherd

5.0 out of 5 stars The best SF ever written
This novel by Samuel Delany is probably the best SF novel I have ever read - at least it rates in my top three. Read more
Published on 7 Jun 2001

2.0 out of 5 stars Started so promisingly
Half an hour after starting this I thought I was going to be in for a real treat. Unkown 'Invaders' with their newly identified code, linguistic discussion and a heroine to die... Read more
Published on 6 May 2001

5.0 out of 5 stars Brilliant, yet flawed.
This is a wonderful book: poetic, characterful & stimulating; yet it seems to contain many rather enigmatic lapses when touching on linguistic, technical & futurological... Read more
Published on 7 Jun 2000

5.0 out of 5 stars A struggle at the start, but worth the effort
I almost gave up reading this book, as I was really struggling with the maths/science discusssions going on between characters at the start - I like to know what my books are... Read more
Published on 8 May 2000

5.0 out of 5 stars SF adventure with a linguistics twist
If you read just the first chapter you'll probably be put off this book but read on as the author turns things on their head in the second and it really takes off from there. Read more
Published on 8 May 2000

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