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China (Rough Guide Travel Guides) (Paperback)
by Jeremy Atiyah (Author), David Leffman (Author), Simon Lewis (Author)
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Times Educational Supplement, London, UK
Unfortunately the TES's budget doesn't stretch to my checking the mass of information it contains first hand, but the whole thing is clearly laid out, and in addition to all the essentials for any intrepid backpacker, there are many fascinating nuggets of historical and cultural background. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

The Sunday Telegraph, London, UK
Elegant erudition... ...the Rough Guide wants to dig below the surface and help readers through difficult situations...

...You want to buy antiques? The Rough Guide is much more detailed and informative than its rivals. or to visit the Beijing opera? While the Lonely Planet sends you to the tourist venue and the Cadogan directs you to a theatre without an address, the Rough Guide sends you down an alley to the real thing. On restaurants, the Rough Guide offers the widest range of suggestions and the most accurate descriptions of what to expect (and avoid)...

...[other guides] are outclassed by the Rough Guide's thoughtful description [of the Ming Tomb] which evokes past and present, sights and sounds, in a marvellously deft couple of pages. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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8 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Good but still a little rough..., 4 Feb 2005
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Just got back from China and Tibet for 3 weeks, done Beijing, Xian, Lhasa, Guilin, Yangshuo. Overall good in terms of practicalities on places to go and how to do it but some of detail is old. The maps are shocking though, so photocopy those from the Lonely Planet and take this book. Best advice is though if you are going to go and do China and these places make sure you speak to someone who has been and best places and hotels and guest houses to stay. Another top tip is wherever you stay make sure you take the business card of the hotel or guest house, otherwise language wise you are going to have problems!
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38 of 44 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Very rough indeed, 15 May 2003
By Anthony E. Williams (Bulleen, Victoria Australia) - See all my reviews
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This book presents itself as a revised edition, but it is very
little more than a prettied-up reprint of the text from three
years ago, and some of that was a bit long in the tooth then.

The first and second editions carried great promise, worthy
competitors for the boys from LP. To represent the third as
having been "updated" is merely a deception. It would have been
better not done at all.

The book is a curiosity. The title-page has it "written and
researched" by the same three authors as the previous edition
more than three years ago, but "this edition updated" by two
others. It's not clear that the original three have contributed
any "research" at all that was not reflected in the previous
edition. Nor is it even quite clear that the two "updaters"
have actually been on the ground in China. The "updating" is in
fact so slight that it could almost have been done by a
desk-bound clerk on the strength of readers' reports, with

perhaps the odd nod in the direction of the Lonely Planet Thorn
Tree.

The new edition has more pages, but that's explained by a
slightly larger type-face; finer paper; unchanged net weight.
A second colour introduced throughout, with improved visual
presentation, a bit prettier. And not many other changes.

Chinese names and words still without tone-marks in the main
body of the text - a shortcoming that was never really excusable
and which has been merely unacceptable since Lonely Planet bit
that particular bullet.

There is scarcely a town or locality mentioned that is not
included in the previous edition. No one who is on the ball in
the matter of China travel could fail to discover many more
places worthy of attention than he knew about three years
before. And circumstances change as well: more than a year
before the last edition, all of western Sichuan was opened for
the first time, but the vast treasure of the previously
forbidden region is still undiscovered by the new edition of
this (very) rough guide. The wonderfully scenic Muli and
Yanyuan counties in southern Sichuan have been open for years
but (apart from one passing reference to Yanyuan) rate no
mention. Yushu Prefecture in southern Qinghai, with all
counties open at least since mid-2001, is not mentioned; indeed
apart from Xining district and Golmud (Geermo) there's hardly a
mention of any part of Qinghai province at all.

Of course I can't expect even the best guidebook to discover all
the places I may have discovered and found worthwhile - the
Mekong in north-west Yunnan, Yulin in northern Shaanxi,
Shibaoshan in western Yunnan, Daocheng and the Yading Reserve,
not to mention secret places in Tibet that I'd perhaps rather
keep to myself, nor the phenomenal valley of the Salween in
western Yunnan. The trouble is that this book has found very
few new places (though there's a tantalising addition of almost
impossibly remote Loulan and a couple of extra morsels on the
"southern Silk Road" - a reader's letter perhaps?)

Then there are the occasions when I've found the previous
edition mistaken or misleading - Chishui, Matang, Tiger-Leaping
Gorge, Ruili district, Sanying hotel open to foreigners (well,
it is if you threaten the PSB with an international incident
failing their acquiescence), Pingliang hotel; and so on. Any
corrections? Not one that I can find.

Some details of hotel tariffs, telephone numbers, admission
charges and so on have been changed, but they are generally far
too few to lend any confidence in the reliability of what has
not been changed; a number I've been able to check are just
wrong.

The maps are now far too few, the provincial (or
multi-provincial) maps just too simplified; the largest scale
for some provinces is one to twenty million. Even so, how
revealing for the text to say that "Weixi marks the end of the
road" (from the east)! Tell that to the mini-bus drivers who
drive another 220km north to Deqin, from where the road
continues all the way to Lhasa and beyond! The railway line
between Changsha and north-western Hunan (which cut the journey
from Zhangjiajie to Changsha to about six hours when it had
already been commissioned three years ago) is not shown.

Good points? There's a new "food and drink glossary", which is
to say phrase-list. The paper is excellent - strong and
light, perhaps better than the heavier paper of the Lonely
Planet, so that there are about 30% more pages but 10% less
overall weight. There must be more words in the Rough Guide,
but I doubt there is more information, regardless of its
accuracy.

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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Rough Guide to China.......a great way to travel, 4 May 2005
By paul robinson (hampshire United Kingdom) - See all my reviews
I have just returned from an 18 day tour of China covering Beijing, Nanjing, Shanghai, Yichang and the Yangtze river, Chongqing, Xian, Luoyang, Zhengzhou and back to Beijing.The Rough Guide accompanied me everywhere and as a constant reference point was truly superb. Its merit was not only in the thumbnail sketches of whichever location I was in at that moment but also in its Context section at the rear of the book. China is such an enigma for westerners that any key is helpful and this one was well laid out and gave me enough information to assimilate whilst on holiday. Others on the tour learnt the benefits of this guide as well and I became a convenient reference source!!!!! The only reason I gave the volume less than 5 stars is that the edition I had, purchased from Amazon in December 2004, was published in 2003 and China is progressing at such a breakneck speed that any publication will be out of date after six months.
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2.0 out of 5 stars quite poor really
I am currently in china using this travel guide. It is not up to the usual standard of rough guides - much is out of date and the places it recommends are rarely anything... Read more
Published on 24 Jun 2005 by Moody