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The Burning City (Hardcover)

by Larry Niven (Author), Jerry Pournelle (Author)
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  • Hardcover: 512 pages
  • Publisher: Orbit; First Edition edition (27 April 2000)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 1841490067
  • ISBN-13: 978-1841490069
  • Product Dimensions: 23.4 x 16 x 4.4 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (8 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: 1,416,435 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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'Superb detail ... shudderingly believable' - Frank Herbert 'Outstanding ... the best ever, by the best in the field ... the ultimate combination of imagination and realism' - Tom Clancy

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'Outstanding ... the best ever, by the best in the field ... the ultimate combination of imagination and realism' --This text refers to the Paperback edition.

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6 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars The Fire God's broken rule, 3 Feb 2004
By Crazy Eddie (Guildford, UK) - See all my reviews
This review is from: The Burning City (Paperback)
Utilising the same system of magic (one where mana is a non-renewable resource, which is rapidly diminishing in some parts of the world) as some of Niven's short stories this book realistically incoporates legends from around the world into plot features. I initially bought this book for three reasons, the authors, the cover art and the blurb. It then took me an extraordinary long time to summon up the enthusiasm to read it. Once I started though, I found it very difficult to put down. The beginning is quite slow, it must be said, as we are introduced to the main characters, but this book develops. In some ways it is almost a text book on how to write great Fantasy, it has all the elements that you would expect from a Sword and Sorcery classic, but then it takes them from the jaded prose that you would expect from long running series such as the Conan novels and sets them in a much more rounded world, at once familiar and strange. I would recommend this to any fan of Fantasy fiction, but I would warn you that it might take some work - this isn't something light and fluffy than you can read in an afternoon.
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9 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Too boring to finish, 7 Mar 2002
This review is from: The Burning City (Paperback)
I tried. I really did. I've loved the work of these authors. However, it did not read like anything else they'd written, and I found it a complete bore. About 1/4 of the way through, I put it down, and have never bothered to pick it up again. I cannot recall an occasion when a book has left me so disappointed.

Perhaps it gets better. But life's too short to keep on wading through such stuff.

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4 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars A burning question, 1 Jun 2005
By Stephen A. Haines (Ottawa, Ontario Canada) - See all my reviews
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In fantasy fiction, the author holds all the cards. Location, characters and events may be fully invented or adapted from reality as the writer wishes. The better writers usually provide an explanation for some of the more unlikely depictions. In fantasy, the implausible is part of the attraction. All that's left for the reader is to accept the result. This book is such a confused melange of fact and fantasy that the reader is likely to finish it dismayed. Ostensibly taking place in Southern California at the end of the Ice Age, one might believe the fantasy is the frosting on the cake of reality. Instead, it's the reverse - fantasy dominates and reality is plugged in rather at the authors' whim.

Tep's Town is a structured community in the Los Angeles Basin. There are Lords at the top, Lordkin in a vague middle and the kinless at the bottom. The kinless wear a rope noose [to indicate the possibility of lynching for disobedience?] around their necks as a sign of their status. They haul the water, cut the wood and provide just about everything the Lordkin wish. The Lordkin "gather" a term translated in the book as "steal" - "confiscate" would do as well. What has held such a chaotic society together long enough to build towns and trade routes remains unexplained.

One Lordkin, Whandall Placehold ["freeman", one presumes], is a "street-smart" kid who accidentally visits an aristocrat's home. He almost falls in love, but his hormones aren't yet up to the task - he's only nine. Still, the event provides Whandall with a new view of that element of society. He gains greater insight into the bottom rung, as well. Especially when he encounters "the most beautiful girl he'd ever seen". She's ensconced in a hidden compartment of a wagon with other kids, road dust and certainly the excrement of their extended journey. That condition is blithely ignored - by the authors and Whandall alike, leaving our Hero smitten, but not besmirched. His olfactory powers being minimal, his magical powers are correspondingly ample. He has a god, Yagen-Atep, at his call. Y-A is hot stuff - and Whandall can fire up whole communities with his spirit.

The resulting conflagration sends Whandall, along with his nubile, but unconsummated love, on the road. Giving up his life of privileged idleness, Whandall follows the trade routes and expands his knowledge and experience. Keeping his pyromaniacal deity at bay, he takes up a quest imparted by a wizard, Morth. That this wizard is from Atlantis is one of the more jarring notes in this book. We have The Ice, redwoods in LA because the Times reported them, and a greenhouse-full of obnoxious plants. But, "Atlantis"?? Morth, anticipating later reality, succumbs to "gold fever" a la the Forty-Niners, but the gold is magic and the "fever" the madness of possessing its power. Is that power on the wane? is the big question here, and Whandall, as a protagonist, struggles to find out.

There are worse fantasy books than this one, but not much. The authors, who have excellent SF and "real world" credentials, seem to have tried to incorporate too much from both here. The mixture is a marginal success because their prose skills are highest quality. They've tried to break from traditional [i.e., Tolkienesque] fantasy, but it doesn't quite work. [stephen a. haines - Ottawa, Canada]

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5.0 out of 5 stars Fantasy as it should be...
I can only thank Niven and Pournelle for tipping their sublime talents toward the fantasy genre and lighting it up. Read more
Published 6 months ago by Nigel P. Matthews

4.0 out of 5 stars Interestingly different - and enjoyable
I enjoyed it. Niven and Pournelle are trying out a logical approach to magic. This is not hard SF, packed with techno-realism, but it has a clear plot and lots of action. Read more
Published on 4 Mar 2003 by a2025398

5.0 out of 5 stars Leftovers
When you have written as many good books as Niven, you have bits left over from them. Thus we are presented with remnants from Magic Goes Away,in what looks like the rejected... Read more
Published on 5 Sep 2001 by DominiConnor mod@cix.co.uk

4.0 out of 5 stars Keep reading - the last two thirds are inspired.
I too found the first few hundred pages a bit of a chore. Far too much time is spent on the main character and the surroundings that define his behaviour. Read more
Published on 30 April 2001

1.0 out of 5 stars When does it get started?
Page 56, chapter 8. I know who the main character of the story is but I have known that from page 1. Read more
Published on 12 Mar 2001

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