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The Last Word and the Word after That: A Tale of Faith, Doubt, and a New Kind of Christianity (Hardcover)

by Brian D. McLaren (Author) "ONE COLD AND SNOWY NIGHT in January 2003,I wrote these words in my journal: I am midway in my journey through life and I seem..." (more)
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  • Hardcover: 224 pages
  • Publisher: Jossey Bass (10 May 2005)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 0787975923
  • ISBN-13: 978-0787975920
  • Product Dimensions: 23.1 x 15.2 x 2.3 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: 356,734 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)
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Pastor Dan Poole returns with another personal and theological crisis in this final installment of McLaren’s A New Kind of Christian trilogy, which again features fictional characters engaged in nonfictionish theological dialogue. This time around, Poole has been granted an extended leave of absence from his conservative church as it investigates what it believes to be his liberal theological leanings, especially regarding the doctrine of hell and salvation. In rather predictable fashion, Poole finds himself questioning his own beliefs about hell and God’s goodness, and just as predictably, Poole’s friend Neo gently shepherds Poole away from the traditional doctrine of hell by pointing out that salvation is not just an individual matter but a communal one as well. Once Poole reaches some personal level of understanding about these doctrines through his reading, the church committee miraculously clears him of all charges and, after some emotional meetings, asks him to return to the pulpit. In the end, Poole finds comfort God’s goodness and love, but by then readers may have been disappointed by the book’s flimsy characters and simplistic insights. Although McLaren has justly earned a reputation for provocative postmodern theological observations, this doesn’t live up to his standard. (Apr.) (Publishers Weekly, March 28, 2005)


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For all those seeking more authentic ways to hold and practice Christian faith, Brian McLaren has been an inspiring, compassionate—and provocative—voice. Starting with the award–winning A New Kind of Christian, McLaren offered a lively, wide–ranging fictional conversation between Pastor Dan Poole and his friend Neil Oliver as they reflected about faith, doubt, reason, mission, leadership, and spiritual practice in the emerging postmodern world. That conversation widened to include several intriguing new characters in the sequel, The Story We Find Ourselves In, as Dan and friends continued to explore faith–stretching themes from evolution to evangelism, from death to the meaning of life. Now, in this third installment of their adventures, Dan and his widening circle of friends grapple with conventional Christian teachings about hell and judgment and what they mean for our relationship with God and each other. Is there an alternative to the usual polar views of a just God short on mercy or a merciful God short on justice?  Could our conflicted views of hell be symptoms of a deeper set of problems – misunderstandings about what God’s justice and mercy are about, misconceptions about God’s purpose in creating the world, deep misgivings about what kind of character God is and what the Christian gospel is for?


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4.0 out of 5 stars A long 'Hmmmm' rather than a last hurrah..., 6 Jun 2005
By Simon Hall (Leeds, UK) - See all my reviews
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'The Last Word' is the final part of Brian McLaren's 'New Kind of Christian' trilogy, and retains the preceeding two books' characters, narrative flow, and 'creative nonfiction' style.

Pastor Dan has been suspended by his church for being a potential heretic, his friend Neil ('don't call me Neo, I hated the last two Matrix movies') Oliver invites him to be part of a neo-monastic community, lots of people get married, and everyone is talking about Hell. Lots. Like men talk about sport: can't let go, despite the pain it causes.

I've really, REALLY enjoyed the first two books, cheering pastor Dan on as he loosens up and learns to enjoy a more progressive 'generous orthodoxy'. In retrospect, I've probably been a patronising to the main character. This time, however, as McLaren has Dan exploring new territory on the new creation, I found myself saying, 'Whoah, Dan, slow down, I can't keep up!' Dan's final view tends to correspond with NT Wright's 'realised eschatology', which basically means we need to think a lot more about the reign of God in the world today than whatever might happen in the future.

As with the previous book in the series, in which one of the main characters becomes a Christian on her deathbed, all threads are wound together in a way that feels just a bit too simple. How many heresy trials do you know of where nobody gets burned? Still, I found myself with a lump in my throat as I read the happy ending, which I think means that I really do care about these people who have helped me find a language for the journey that I, and so many others, are experiencing in these days.

The books itself is well written, given that it attempts the impossible: to marry a theology textbook and an airport novel. The story is simply and unobtrusively told, the narrative is on the thin side, but compelling enough at times that you want to skim the heavy stuff, and the heavy stuff is interesting and challenging enough that you never do skim it.

Sometimes the book suffers from the painful insertion of really deep theology into a story which groans from the effort of carrying so much meaning. You can push an illustration too far, like Alan Bennett's vicar opining 'Life is rather like a tin of sardines: we're all of us looking for the key.' McLaren takes us to the holocaust memorial in Washington DC to hammer home his main points about evangelical views on Hell: that they turn God into Hitler and Christians into little kommandants running around chucking everyone into the fire. So if Hitler was bad for disposing of everyone he considered not up scratch, why do we say God is good for doing the very same thing on a cosmic scale? A good point, but rammed home with all the subtlety of... well, that time when I mistook Marmite for chocolate spread...

I really like this book. It has obvious strengths and weaknesses, and if you take it for what it is, you will find you mind (and maybe even your spirit) expanded by the process. The story itself has a climax, but for me the abiding sensation as I put down the book, was a long, 'Hmmmmmmm'.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Mind Expanding End To The Trilogy, 11 Jun 2005
I think I feel a little as I did after watching the last part of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, wondering what I would do now it was over, but some of you may think that a little sad.

I have heard Brian speak and shared breakfast with him, so whenever I read these books I can't help but make Brian the Dan character of the book.

I read this final episode whilst in the South of France with my family and in hindsight a more trashy novel may have been more appropriate. However after being impacted by the first book couldn't wait to read this. For those who have not got their hands on any other book in the series, they do stand alone, but are more complete when read as the series.

Brian uses the story of Dan, Neo et al, to unpack the long held evangelical stance of hell and all the implications surrounding it. He takes no short cuts, no easy paths and at times I had to put the book down for a few hours whilst I processed what was being said.

I am convinced that there will be those out there who consider Brian and this series of books nothing more than liberal universalism (having of course read them with an open mind to see what's wrong with them!), but having been and still considering myself to be entirely convinced of the validity of the Bible for 'teaching, correcting and rebuking' I think these arguments hold little water for clear thinking mature readers.

This book will challenge your theology, your faith and most of all your love for your fellow man and for most Christians non of these will be a bad thing.

A fantastic, brave and remarkable book, but not for the faint hearted!

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