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The Pope's Children (Hardcover)

by David McWilliams (Author)
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  • Hardcover: 281 pages
  • Publisher: Gill & Macmillan Ltd (1 Feb 2006)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 0717139719
  • ISBN-13: 978-0717139712
  • Product Dimensions: 21.8 x 14.6 x 3.4 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 2.7 out of 5 stars See all reviews (12 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: 597,722 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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    #34 in  Books > Society, Politics & Philosophy > Social Sciences > Sociology > Family & Social Groups > Age Groups > Adults

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The Guardian
'A highly entertaining antidote to the usual gloom mongers of
Ireland's opinion-mongers...a hedonistic story of success.' --This text refers to the Paperback edition.

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David McWilliams' brilliant survey of Ireland today is a celebration of success. He takes us to Deckland, that suburban state of mind where you'll find the Kells Angels, those out-of-town commuters who are the cutting edge of the new prosperity. He introduces the HiCos - Hiberno-Cosmopolitans - the elite whose distance from Deckland is measured in their cool sophistication, their ability to feel at home equally on the Boulevard Saint-Michel and on Hill 16. "The Pope's Children" is an antidote to the endless pessimism of the Commentariat, official Ireland's gloomy opinion mongers, forever seeing a glass half empty that is in fact three-quarters full. There is a vast surge of ambition, new money, optimism and hope out there. That's the real story: "The Pope's Children" tells it - and tells it with style.

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17 of 20 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Draws heavily on work by other authors. But unattributed., 9 Feb 2006
Remarkably similar to David Brooks's 2000 study, Bobos in Paradise -- The New Upper Class And How They Got There. In fact, a recent article in Ireland on Sunday went so far as to quesion whether McWilliams is the new copycat of the Celtic Tiger!

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McWilliams writes of a new social class he calls HiCos, Hibernian Cosmopolitans disappointed that the social revolutions they supported in the 1970s, '80s and '90s led to mass consumerism rather than radical political change.

The Bobos -- Bourgeois Bohemians -- (from Brooks's book) fret about the same things as the HiCos. Both are seeking new spiritual paths, rejecting Judaeo-Christian worship and looking instead for New Age solutions to fill the aching void that rampant materialism has corroded into their souls, and each is appalled by the vulgarity of the class below. For the Bobo, that is Patio Man; for the HiCo, it is DIY Declan, a citizen of Deckland, McWilliams's catch-all name for anonymous satellite towns where garden decking is the ultimate sign you have arrived.

DIY Declan sees Woodie's as his temple -- which makes him a very close cousin of Patio Man, who feels the same about Home Depot.

And they are aspirational in very similar ways. For Brooks, that means they crave monstrous refrigerators and 'slate shower stalls'; for McWilliams, it means they crave monstrous refrigerators and 'slate wet-rooms'

In leafy US suburbs, Brooks found that so many blue delivery bags containing the New York Times lay on suburban lawns that the bags were visible from outer space. McWilliams decides that, along with the Great Wall of China, Christmas decorations in Celbridge gardens are the only things that can be seen with the naked eye from space.

It goes on. For Brooks, lifestyle magazines like Conde Nast Traveler are the new pornography. For McWilliams, The Irish Times Thursday supplement is 'property porn'.

Both are amused by the language of recruitment advertising; by the way that we have all embraced artisan breads; by how we drink machiatos and lattes instead of just 'coffee'.

They offer new names for the bars we have raised on our own expectations -- Brooks has an Achieveatron, while McWilliams invents an Attainometer.

And both love the wedding announcement pages. Brooks talks of The New York Times, where 'a Duke MBA who works at NationsBank marries a Michigan law grad who works at Winston and Strawn'. McWilliams, in the Irish Times, finds that 'lawyer beds down with doctor, AIB marries Anglo-Irish' etc -- and both guffaw at the fact that the engagement announcements are known among the monied classes as the Mergers and Acquisitions Page.

The similarities in the two books are astounding. The only significant difference is that Brooks's book was published in 2000 while McWilliams published his book in 2005.

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10 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Painted in broad strokes, 1 Dec 2005
The stereotypes are correct and the book gallops along at a furious pace. I bought the book Monday lunchtime and finished it 2 days later.

On many things he is on the money. In particular the assertion that debt will be the undoing of the whole game. We are spending a ferocious amount of borrowed money and have little regard for value for money or sustaining our success.

The book concentrates on the various types of nouveau rich that have mushroomed here but he ignored like thr rest of us the ghettos that won't prosper and can't join in the monopoly game.

Little regard too is given to the 40% functional illiteracy rate that we still have here. This coupled with easy credit makes it a mugs game because they can't readit they can't see how the lender is taking their first born as a guarantee.

There is an army of kids that will never and can never join the race for more money because they are not educated in primary school and home is too messed up with drugs and partents who are not present in their own lives never mind their kids lives.

Also nothing was said about the unwillingness and the impotent response to broadband and creating an informationally literate society. We rely on piggybacking the malaise of the Eurozone rather than using this time to upskill and push even further ahead. Its almost cool here to be IT illiterate and say that "I don't understand" and "fix it for me" Singapore and Hong Kong are so far ahead in this and we will never catch up when the tables turn and debt kicks us in the behind. It might seem middle class to highlight this but Korea has the highest and fastest broadband in the world. Korea is going places. Samsung products are now better than Sony.

But one thing he is right about is the fact that we are sleepwalking when we think that immigrants the Chinese in particular are going to settle for collecting our glasses and making us sandwiches. They get in on the ground floor and where they go the money follows.

Most of the wealth in the Philippines is held by the Chinese population who immigrated. I would not be surprised to see it happen here too. Educated and because they are unable to borrow from banks here and completely disdainful of debt they will be a major force in the economy. Witness the Song dynasty on Parnell St.

He also left out the whole story of the Filipinos who keep the health service together. Only because their own country is more chaotic do they understand how it doesn't work here. And they keep smiling unlike the permagrumpy green eyed Paddys.

Buy this book and see what is really going on here.

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4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Very funny look at the celtic tiger, 8 Mar 2007
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well worth a read , if you are fed up with returing to ireland and hearing how everything is grand ....then you wont like this ..a great funny look at what has happened over the last 25 years in Irl - since the pope visited ! ( it does seem a long time ago )

so if you are irish and between 25 and 50 - and need light entrtainment - then it is a must read -
if nothing else the statictics in the first chapter are jaw dropping !!
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2.0 out of 5 stars No real answers, shallow
The first half of this book is fantastic - informative backed up with facts and figures. McWilliams characters such as Robopaddy and DIY Declan are well documented. Read more
Published 16 months ago by Mr. D

3.0 out of 5 stars very selective. But does speak some truth.
Yes Ireland has experienced a boom and yes as a result we all are now able to buy the finer drugs and cars and all of that, but while this book shows all of this, it has the same... Read more
Published on 3 Mar 2007 by David G

1.0 out of 5 stars Awful
Apart from the chapter on the property boom, where the author's background in economics allows him some joined-up thinking, this is awful. Read more
Published on 23 Jan 2007 by John Grenham

1.0 out of 5 stars A very frustrating read
This book had been recommended by a friend who said it reflected life in Ireland. I don't live in Ireland at the moment, but found that it does not come close to describing the... Read more
Published on 15 Nov 2006 by M. Kelly

1.0 out of 5 stars Catalogue of stereotypes
At first I was reluctant to review this book: after all, I couldn't bring myself to finish it, so how could I comment? Read more
Published on 5 Oct 2006 by F. Gibbons

5.0 out of 5 stars Racing Tiger
This is probably the most entertaining economic tract ever written, only an Irish economist could do it. Read more
Published on 4 Aug 2006 by Crannog

1.0 out of 5 stars Squirrel on Speed
I really honestly fail to see how anbody can take this book seriously. The author is utterly unable to follow a single thread of thought through to any logical conclusion. Read more
Published on 16 Jul 2006 by helen

5.0 out of 5 stars Laughed out loud in the book shop it was so funny
Had a look at this book today in Waterstones and I was laughing so much I had to look over my shoulder to see how much I had embarrassed myself! Read more
Published on 19 Jan 2006 by CLAIR

4.0 out of 5 stars I mostly agree but...
I loved the book except where it concludes that the 95% vote to scrap Articles 2 and 3 was a rejection of "nationalism". Read more
Published on 2 Jan 2006

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