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An Elegant Madness: High Society in Regency England [Illustrated] (Hardcover)

by Venetia Murray (Author)
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  • Hardcover: 317 pages
  • Publisher: Penguin Books Australia; illustrated edition edition (29 April 1999)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 067088328X
  • ISBN-13: 978-0670883288
  • Product Dimensions: 23.4 x 15.5 x 3 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (6 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: 729,681 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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Contemporary cartoons and diary entries are used to chronicle Regency England, from 1788 to 1820, capturing the scandals, vulgarity, romance, and social turmoil of the period.

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1.0 out of 5 stars Shockingly bad research and full of errors, 22 July 1999
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While very interesting and raising some interesting points Venetia Murray's book "An Elegant Madness" is shockingly badly researched and very sloppily edited. Do not rely on this book if you are not familiar with the Regency period - and do not quote from this book as truth, always use a secondary source to back up anything read in this book.

Errors are continually repeated.

She seems to have a permanant state of confusion with the Spencer (Earl Spencer) family and the Cavendish family (the Duke's of Devonshire). The 1st Earl Spencer had two daughters, Georgiana and Henrietta. Georgiana married the 5th Duke of Devonshire and had two daughters, Georgiana and Harriet. Murray consistently and continually confuses these two generations and families despite listing seven separate books on the family in her bibliography and a number of other associated books that would provide information on them. I am starting to wonder if she read the books at all - if she read that many surely she wouldn't have made those mistakes.

She calls the Marquis of Queensbury "Old Q" in fact, 'Old Q' was the Duke of Queensbury, a completely different person.

Her description of Beau Brummell is based on entirely apocryphal and disproved events. She places their first meeting on a salacious and since disproved story by Captain Gronow. She says that the Prince and Brummell fell out at an event in 1814 when Brummell insulted the Prince by asking his companion, "Who is your far friend'. This was not the case. Not only did this even actually occur a year earlier in 1813, but it was probably at least a year after the Prince and Brummell fell out. She also fails to show the influence of Brummell on clothing. She says his dress was 'leather breeches for daytime' in actual fact this was the common dress in the 1790's and not at all what Brummell introduced. No one was admitted into his dressing room either - they were entertained in his drawing room while he put on his neck cloths in the dressing room next door with the doors open.

She misdates the arrival of gas in London as 1816 - it came in 1808 and was in common use by 1815.

She continually misnames people - Lord William Pitt-Lennox for the Duke of Richmonds son Lord William Lennox. She calls James Wedderburn Webster, James Webster Wedderburn.

She confuses the Duke of Kent's mutiny in Gibralter (undated in her book but occuring in 1802) with a mutinous incident a few years earlier in Canada. She also says the Duke sentenced the man to 900 lashes, it was actually 999. But the mutiny in Gibralter was not over his cruelty, it was over his excessive regulations which prevented the men from drinking on Christmas Day.

She blandly uses 'after the war' as a statement - but doesn't state what war - one must assume she means after Waterloo. In which case it would be after the 'wars'. Given that the Napoleonic Wars dominated all but a few years of the 1788-1830 she chooses as the scope for her book she has almost no information of the effect of these wars on the country.

She quotes many things out of context to - the list of her errors, omissions and flat out misconstructions could go on.

Frankly while I am interested in much of the information she brings up, those things that I know about or have researched further have shown that she has very little discipline either in her note taking or her ability to put it into its correct context.

She jumps around her chosen 50 year period with little regard to the development of society, London or social mores. So she states with certainty it was a violent age and people were mugged etc. Yet the difference in London in the 1780's when people were robbed in the carriages in broad daylight in London streets, and in 1810 when this was extremely uncommon, is not developed at all.

It is not like Murray has put new interpretations on facts - she has taken too many events and given them incorrect dates, people or information.

This is an exceptionally sloppy book, littered with errors and should be read with extreme caution. I have only listed some of the errors in the book here.

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3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Witty, Elegant and Highly Entertaining, 10 Mar 2000
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I found this book a light and delicious souffle. Academic history it is not: but a great read for the general public interested in daily life, love, money - and all the things we all care about as much now as we did two hundred years ago - Yes, and Yes again. Full of amusing stories, witty, very well researched and exactly what the author claims in her Preface. She writes "'An Elegant Madness: High Society in Regency England' was never intended to be taken as a sociological survey: the aim of the bok was to convey the mood of the Regency, to entertain my readers, and, perhaps, to enlighten a few.' I am not surprised the hardback edition in England received such flattering reviews from eminent historians such as Christopher Hibbert and Philip Zeigler. I quite agree with them!. As for the few negative customer comments I can only suppose they come from amateur historians with a personal agenda.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Excellent resource for the history behind Regency Romances, 18 Feb 1999
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An Elegant Madness: High Society in Regency England by Venetia Murray $29.95, Viking Press

Ventia Murray has provided an interesting and well-documented look into the turbulant transition period between the French Revolution (1791) and the start of the Reform Period (1830). This time has been the fertile ground for many fiction writers, from Georgette Heyer to Jill Barnett, and every month more books come out using it as a backdrop. "An Elegant Madness" along with "The Regency Companion"(Sharon Laudermilk and Teresa L. Hamlin) provides the historical backdrop. Murray has done extensive research, and while to long-time readers of Regency novels, the material will seem familiar, she has placed the period within the context of political and economic history as well as the society. One particularly helpful element of "An Elegant Madness" is that for the first time, a reader will have a sense of how expensive the Regency was in today's modern-day terms. Murray uses a rate of exchange of 50 to 1. For example, "..an item in 1812 was 200 (pounds) it would 10,000 (pounds) today..." Best of all, she has included an extensive bibliography for those who want to go further into the time period, and an index so you can track down that elusive fact in the future. I'd recommend this book to readers who have a grounding in the time period (so you recognize the names), but are interested in the history rather than the fiction.

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5.0 out of 5 stars A Light Overview of Regency England
There are some very negative reviews on this book, both in Great Britain and the U.S....well what can I say? Read more
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4.0 out of 5 stars Great stories, but I don't speak French!
A very entertaining book, but a little disjointed. One thing seems to lead to another, and pretty soon you are reading about something that has nothing to do with the chapter... Read more
Published on 16 April 1999

4.0 out of 5 stars An amusing and readable compendium.
Dr.Johnson once remarked that all works which describe manners "require notes in sixty or seventy years". Read more
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