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by Mary Midgley (Author), the author (Preface) "Another consideration, no less important, concerns our relation to the non-human world on which we depend Since the Renaissance, most sages in our humanistic tradition,..." (more)
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  • Paperback: 328 pages
  • Publisher: Routledge; 1 edition (1 Feb 2006)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 0415378486
  • ISBN-13: 978-0415378482
  • Product Dimensions: 19.4 x 13 x 2.8 cm
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'One may already be convinced that science and poetry need not do battle, yet still read with fascination as Mary Midgley insightfully retraces some familiar lines Midgley writes perceptively - and beautifully - about many things But, in the end, it is the poetry, including the poetry of Midgley's prose, that makes the book worth reading.' - Philip Clayton, Nature

'Clearly and forcefully argued ... no reflective person could disagree with Midgley's view. By bringing some of the more important detail of the arguments into focus and quoting so appositely from the poets whose visions of the world enrich our understanding of it, she performs a service.' - A C Grayling, Literary Review

'Midgley's books over the past 20 years have made a significant contribution to ending 'the contest of faculties' and to furthering the central philosophical mission of making sense of life. Science and Poetry is perhaps her most important book yet.' - Raymond Tallis, Times Higher April 6 2001

'The range of argument and citation is enormous: one gets the feeling of being in the grip of an awesome erudition.' - John Peck, Third Way April 2001

‘... the book's strength, charm and fascination lie ... in the endless richness of the suggestions Midgley makes on the sequence of important issues that she addresses. However familiar the topic, there is always an "edge", a Midgley-esque insight, a piece of mild or major iconoclasm that makes one stop and read again.' - Theology



‘A fiercely combative philosopher … our foremost scourge of scientific pretension.’ – The Guardian



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In this typically crusading work, universally acclaimed as a classic on first publication, Midgley asserts her corrective view that without poetry (or literature, or music, or history, or even theology) we cannot hope to understand our humanity.

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5.0 out of 5 stars This an excellent book that explores the meaning of life!, 9 Jan 2002
This review is from: Science and Poetry (Paperback)
Review of Midgley, M. Science and Poetry 2001. London: Routledge

Jill Shepherd
The Graduate School of Business
University of Strathclyde
Scotland, UK

Having just read and enjoyed Darwinizing Culture: The Status of Memetics as a Science. 2001.Edited by Robert Aunger. Oxford: Oxford University Press, I found Science and Poetry to be an equally useful and broader addition to the debate over the connection between the natural sciences and sociology. The aim of the book is to see how the ideas of science and poetry might be brought together to elucidate the problem of 'personal identity' - 'who and what we are' (Introduction p: 1).

Midgely covers three areas of interest in her book. First, in the section 'Visions of rationality' she adds morality, emotion, imagination, visioning and bounded rationality to the traditional view of wholly rational scientists and of science as the source of the ultimate explanation of life. Second, in the section 'Mind and Body: The End of Apartheid,' she discusses the problem of consciousness and the need to become more conscious of consciousness. Here she criticises science for reducing humanity to social atomism, thus making the concept of society questionable. Third, in her last section, 'In what kind of world,' she re-introduces the role of morality and civil rights, arguing that we have a duty to help other citizens. To make her point she uses the concept of Gaia, which she states, unlike most excursions of science into the social world, has a moral and religious element, a multi-level non-atomistic view of the world, and an emphasis on the need to act collectively to stop global warming. In building her argument, Midgely makes the point that to differentiate so strongly between science and non-science is unhelpful. Neither is rational and both are part of the whole. Similarly, it is unhelpful to differentiate between living and dead, because in Gaian terms the whole planet is alive.

To be critical, as an evolutionist I feel the book unjustifiably dismisses the claim that evolutionary theory has the potential to be a theory of everything. That said, I do agree with Midgely's critique of the use of the word selfish and the overuse of the concept of competition in evolutionary thinking. Using 'selfish' when referring to memes and genes (the units of selection of genetic evolution and social evolution respectively) is unnecessarily emotive. Instead, Midgely suggests, somewhat ironically, that a more scientific term, such as "selectable." would be preferable. Equally, the incessant use of the term "competition" distorts the field because, in fact, units of evolution often co-operate in order to improve their chances of survival.. I do feel, however, that she fails to see the broader picture painted by evolution. In particular, she ignores the argument from memetics that pieces of social knowledge can survive by virtue of being non-rational only in some contexts, through emotion and humour, or indeed, by a social context being defined by what is meaningful within it. Equally, the author seems to dismiss the perspective created by the evolutionist Dawkins and detailed in his book, Un-weaving the Rainbow; that understanding the system we operate in does not have to meant that we underestimate its poetic beauty.

Lastly, Midgely perhaps could have pointed out that the notion of Gaia is very much in keeping with evolutionary theory. Namely, that social life, physical life, geological change, planetary and universe dynamics are part of one huge complex system that has no foresight but instead has evolved to produce variation that may or may not bring the system back in to dynamic equilibrium. Hence, evolution as a process does not 'care' about whether we humans by inventing cars, an attractive meme, are causing changes that occur more rapidly than the ability of our genes to adapt to them. Thus, the air that we breathe (see increase in asthma) will, unless checked, cause a change in climate that will threaten our very existence. Evolutionary theory simply states that other variation will be produced that will take be better suited to that new system. What the system 'cares' about is self-perpetuation, in whatever form. Indeed, evolutionary theory argues that this is why this, myopic and unguided system, rather than any other system that has foresight, has survived to the point of domination.

Consciousness and morality in evolutionary terms thus become a matter of humans being aware of the dynamics of evolution. In particular, we need to be aware of our role in altering those parts of the system that alter our chances of survival within it. Morality and consciousness, viewed in these terms, become truly "selfish." Whether we do anything about our own survival is another matter, and in my view, will only occur when become less anthropocentric about who and what we are.

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2.0 out of 5 stars Why are we alienated?, 21 Feb 2007
By Frances P. (Athens Gr.) - See all my reviews
This book, Midgley informs us,is based on previous lectures and articles and other publications. Maybe this explains why this rather large volume yields few nuggets of wisdom. I came to this book having been struck by B.Appleyard's more systematic and forceful presentation of rather similar ideas in his "Understanding the Present"(1993).One of Midgley's particular targets seems to be Richard Dawkins, whom she quotes often but not necessarily in a fair manner. In her introduction (p.4) she attacks the "rhetoric of the selfish gene" and presents a "formula of metaphysical reduction" from "Unweaving the Rainbow", but fails to note that in this particular passage he stresses he is just speculating - he is not trying to solve the problem of consciousness, this is an aside. I really don't see why a brilliant populiser of Darwin is such a target here. As far as I can see, what riles Midgley most is the misuse of technology rather than science, and the alienation which has arisen from science having taken over what used to be the preserve of metaphysics.
Now anyone who studies Darwinism with an open mind can see the beauty of the concept, especially the fact that all human life springs from a single source and all living things are related. I'm sorry Ms Midgley, but I don't find that thought in the least alienating. Of course scientists need a grounding in the humanities even if only to be able to deal with ethical issues arising from their work, and also the general population needs to be able to understand these issues in order to have a say in public policy. But I don't think Mary Midgley by attacking the very scientists who are working in this direction is going the right way about it.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Two aspects of the one culture, 1 Sep 2009
By Dr. H. A. Jones (Wales) - See all my reviews
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Science and Poetry by Mary Midgley, Routledge Classics, 2006, 328 ff.

Two aspects of the one culture
By Howard A. Jones

The very title of this book suggests some attempt at unification of C.P. Snow's Two Cultures. Indeed, the whole essence of moral philosopher Mary Midgley's argument is a defence of holism, largely through a via negativa - presenting a critique of the attitudes and statements with which she disagrees. Thus, she is critical of Margaret Thatcher's infamous statement that there is no such thing as a society, of Cartesian dualism, which very largely still holds sway today within much of science, and of Richard Dawkins' statement that `Science is the only way we know to understand the real world' - concepts from the three disparate areas of sociology, philosophy and science for which Midgley is keen to provide connecting threads.

The idea that materialism or physicalism represents the essence of the world may provide a practical basis for scientists to investigate the workings of nature, but there are many other strands that make up human experience and thereby contribute to our interaction with one another and with the world. It is degrading to the nobility of the human mind to suggest that consciousness is a mere chance and incidental outcome of the collaboration of `selfish genes': `a world without subjects is even less conceivable than a world without objects.' But I don't get the sense of criticism of the whole theory evolution from this book that reviewer Jill Shepherd obviously does; however, I endorse her and Midgley's view that we need to be less anthropocentric and individualistic. I don't think Midgley is anti-science, only anti-scientism, like Bryan Appleyard (see my review).

Biologists may focus on competition and `survival of the fittest' in nature but, as Midgley points out, there is a great deal more cooperation and collaboration than competition in nature, especially in the establishment of human social systems like economics, ethics and the humanities: `human beings are not a separate entity detached from the natural world.' Without aesthetics, the `survival value' of which is debatable, why waste time with music, drama, painting and poetry? Many scientists, including Dawkins, do not see scientific knowledge as in any way undermining the spiritual or aesthetic component of life.

This book reflects an ethos that, happily, seems to be steadily gaining ground around the world - a realization that, whatever our religion, there is an underlying spirituality that unites all of humankind and the natural world. Taoist doctrine tells us that we can to a large extent influence our micro-environment and its effect on ourselves and others, `even if the way determines all our outside circumstances.' There is ample scientific evidence that our thoughts influence our own physical wellbeing and that of others and a case made so eloquently, as in this book by Mary Midgley, for the unity of the sciences and humanities is to be welcomed. There are useful Notes and an Index at the end of the book.

Dr Howard A. Jones is the author of The Thoughtful Guide to God (2006) and The Tao of Holism (2008), both published by O Books of Winchester, UK.

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