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by John Guy (Author)
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  • Paperback: 272 pages
  • Publisher: Hodder Arnold (28 April 2000)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 0340731397
  • ISBN-13: 978-0340731390
  • Product Dimensions: 21.6 x 13.8 x 2.2 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: 542,150 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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Thomas More is known to us through so many representations: from Holbein's famous portrait to Robert Bolt's "Man For All Seasons". By good chance a quantity of is own letters (including those written in the tower) survive. Among contemporaries, Erasmus wrote about him and his own son-in-law, William Roper, wrote a masterly if not always accurate biography 20 years after More's death. For a Renaissance figure, even a Chancellor of England, there is an unusually rich stratum of source materials. But this has not simplified the business of understanding the "real" Thomas More, for of course he was at the centre of the Reformation, an ideological schism with a remarkably enduring potency. He has also emerged in some commentaries as a Marxist hero. This account seeks to unravel these disparate strands in a search for the historical More. John Guy persuades us to give some of our attention to the life, not just the death, of More, and to ponder the motivation for More's stand against Henry VIII, not just the stand itself.


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A brilliant exposure of history's biggest 'spin' story
"The indisputable fact about More is that he has had many admirers, culminating in his canonization in 1935. How has it happened? The 'spin' story has been believed. But historians have to expose that. Professor Guy, with clarity and erudition, shows how brilliantly, compassionately and sensitively it can be done." Church Times

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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars How well do you think you know Thomas More?, 4 April 2001
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Professor Guy's book seeks to uncover the real Thomas More, in the words of another famous historian, to get to the man inside the plaster statue. This is not a biography in the true sense of the word, but is an investigation, showing us how little we really do know about this man, and how much of what we think we know is simply myth. If you've got any preconceived ideas as to what Thomas More was like, based on the film 'A Man for All Seasons' then this book will shatter your illusions.

This book takes the key issues of More's life, turning them into questions, each one forming a chapter of the book. Examples are: 'Reluctant Courtier?', 'Heresy Hunter?', and 'Whose conscience?'. Guy is highly critical of the evidence, doing almost the job of a detective, seeking to get as close to the truth as possible.

This book appealed to me immensely, as rather than being a 'story' of More's life, it is above all, an investigation. It is very readable, and I read it initially knowing very little about More, so you don't have to be an expert to enjoy it, yet on the other hand, it will also appeal to serious scholars, due to the critical analysis it provides. It certainly made me think, and prompted me to investigate certain issues in more depth. Rather than just telling us what we know about More, it tells us what we don't know - and suggests that a definitive biography on More will never be written. As is always the case when studying Thomas More, far more questions are raised than are answered.

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3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars First master of P.R.?, 30 April 2006
By G. J. Weeks (London) - See all my reviews
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The reputations series examines the lives of controverted historical figures. More certainly qualities. if you are Roman Catholic, here is a saint, a martyr for the church abandoned by Henry VIII because of his lust. if you are Protestant more is a man who delighted to persecute Protestants with torture and the stake.

Guy believes More was one of the first masters of public relations leaving a legacy of writing to show himself as the king's good servant but God's servant first. He thinks that more never uttered these famous words and that Bolt's film, A Man for All Seasons did not do justice to a sometimes wintery character.

By the standards of his Catholic age, More was a very religious, virtuous man . The church for which he died has recognised this with sainthood. But 15th century Catholic virtue included book burning, hunting heretics, brutal interrogation, and death at the stake. More's Utopia described a tolerance and freedom which he did not live out.

A brilliant lawyer who became Lord Chancellor, a skillful politician who kept his opposition to Henry's divorce a private matter between him and the king, his conscience bound to the Roman church, he lived and died well for his beliefs. A Renaissance scholar and friend of Erasmus, histories of him are divided between the Catholic admirers and Protestant critics. Guy believes it is difficult to get to the real More but he makes a scholarly attempt to do so.

Not a riveting read but informative. It confirms my judgment that A Man for All Seasons and the Sound of Music are two wonderful pieces of Roman Catholic propaganda.
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3.0 out of 5 stars "A daring book"? Hardly..., 31 Aug 2004
By N. Housley (Leicester United Kingdom) - See all my reviews
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The most interesting thing about this reassessment of More is the discrepancy between the jacket blurb and the contents. It says on the back:
'This is a daring book... Those who are wholly satisfied by an idealized vision of More as the epitome of "a man of singular virtue", "the King's good servant but God's first", should not read this book.'
Whether or not this bit of nonsense originated with the author or with someone at Arnold, the fact is it's hilarious because these verdicts are precisely what Guy confirms after sifting through the various aspects of More's life. Of course More was not unflawed but he came extraordinarily near to living according to his values and beliefs. Surrounded by the trimmers at Henry's court (many of whom ended their lives on Tower Hill anyway) More shines like a beacon of rectitude. Guy, who knows the sources inside out, can find hardly anything to say that works contrary to More's reputation, although he constantly asserts that he is doing so!

As a study of More it's not bad but the lack of a narrative spine or of anything genuinely new to say makes it somewhat lame. Read the Ackroyd biography to really get to know More: pace Guy, he was no enigma, but a formidably learned, talented, good-natured and, let's admit it, virtuous man.

Norman Housley

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