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  • Hardcover: 1280 pages
  • Publisher: Macmillan; 1st edition edition (5 Nov 1999)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 033376370X
  • ISBN-13: 978-0333763704
  • Product Dimensions: 23.6 x 15.5 x 7.1 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars See all reviews (23 customer reviews)
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When did British history begin, and where will it all end? These controversial issues are tackled head-on in Norman Davies' polemical and persuasive survey of the four countries that in modern times have become known as the British Isles. Covering 10 millennia in just over a thousand pages, from "Cheddar Man" to New Labour, Davies shows how relatively recent was the formation of the English state--no earlier than Tudor times--and shows too how a sense of Britishness only emerged with the coming of empire in the 18th and 19th centuries. A historian of Poland and the author of an acclaimed history of Europe, Davies is especially sensitive to the complex mixing and merging of tribes and races, languages and traditions, conquerors and colonised which has gone on throughout British history and which in many ways makes "our island story" much more like that of the rest of Europe than we usually think. Many myths of the English are dispelled in this book and many historians are taken to task for their blinkered Anglo-centrism. But the book ends on an upbeat note, with Davies welcoming Britain's return to the heart of Europe at the dawn of the new millennium. --Miles Taylor

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History is ill-taught. Most adults still believe that British history began in a Sussex field in 1066. Children recently identified Churchill as a pop singer, and the Holocaust as Hollywood fiction. That England is part of one island amongst many, that Wales, Ireland, Scotland, the Hebrides, Orkneys, Shetland, Isles of Wight, Man and Skye, have long distinctive histories is scarcely known. All, furthermore, are inextricably part of Europe, ultimately the world. To all this ignorance, Professor Davies provides a lengthy but engrossing remedy, backing up with essential facts much current debate about Britishness, Englishness, the reality of British global achievements, always contentious from whatever hand. He shows 'The Isles' not only from above, emphatically part of the larger whole, but from the viewpoint of invaders and neighbours: Celts, Romans, Teutons, Scandiniavians, Normans, French.By calling Canute 'Knutr', the conqueror 'Guillaume le Bitard', Edward III 'Eduard III Plantagenet', he induces an atmosphere slyly at odds with Anglocentric convention. The narrative sweep is immense, from prehistoric caves to unforeseen implications of the Treaty of Rome; from the impact of Christianity on Irish slavery and polygamy - rather small - and our history as seen by a forgotten Catholic historian, John Lingard (1771-1851), to the valuable post-1945 Polish Resettlement Corps. To illustrate the self-mocking humour which could fitfully soften British imperialism he provides the whole text of 'Mad Dogs and Englishmen'; he quotes from Dickens's 'A Child History of England', though he omits Chesterton's quip that the child must have been not the reader but Dickens himself. Davies's own writing is a model of clarity: not a sentence imprecise. He culls witness not only from books but from coins, flags, old songs, traditional legends, immigration and demographic statistics, Gaelic place-names, the Ogam alphabet, the Manx language.A stone circle speaks louder than Mussolini. Constant details enliven the momentous Conquest, Reformation, Civil War, empire, contemporary dilemmas of identity, status, possibilities. That Cromwell was famed for football, cricket, wrestling, cudgelling, adds flavour to his relations with obstructionists, the ritual hanging of the royal arms from the Edinburgh gallows must have had a powerful theatrical effect. Within powerful 17th century constitutional developments was the founding at St Albans, 1661, of the oldest cricket club, though cricket itself was illegal until 1748, when King's Bench pronounced it 'manly', though contaminated by betting. Too many textbooks are based almost solely upon England, looking outwards only as doing a favour not only to foreigners but to fellow inhabitants of the Isles. Even a Euro-sceptic like myself can hugely enjoy this temperate, instructive and entertaining book. Review by PETER VANSITTART Editor's note: Peter Vansittart's latest book is In Memory of England. (Kirkus UK)

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5.0 out of 5 stars More than meets the eye, 8 Mar 2006
By Kurt Messick "FrKurt Messick" (London, SW1) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: The Isles (Audio CD)
The British Isles are a unique geographical location in the world, having been provided by nature with advantages and problems unique in the world, and peopled by various groups who have worked together and against one another for domination of the Isles. Only for the briefest periods in history did the Isles truly represent a unified group, and even these times were more of an appearance of unity rather than actual unification.

Norman Davies, author of the critically acclaimed `Europe: A History', has put together an interesting history of the British Isles, trying to portray them as a group that, while lacking unity, should be at least addressed as a unified group, always influencing and co-dependent upon each other.

Davies is rather modest in his self-description of the book:

`This book necessarily presents a very personal view of history. Indeed, by some academic standards, it may well be judged thoroughly unsound. As I wrote in relation to a previous work, it presents the past 'seen through one pair of eyes, filtered by one brain, and recorded by one pen'. It has been assembled by an author who, though being a British citizen and a professional historian, has no special expertise in the British historical field.'

Davies self-criticism is really far too strongly expressed here, for he does an admirably thorough job at documentation, reporting, and theorising. Taking a cue from other historians who worry about the increasing lack of historical knowledge of the general public coupled with the increasing specialisation which causes people to lose proper perspective, Davies has put together a comprehensive history of the British Isles which strives to escape at least some of the problems of previous histories.

For instance, it has only been within the last generation that 'English History' has come to be seen as an inaccurate term for discussion of the affairs of all the Isles, or even for the history of the largest island, Great Britain. To this day, anomalies exist that confuse the status of the islands (all cars in the United Kingdom, for instance, carry the plate coding GB, even those cars in Northern Ireland, part of the United Kingdom that is not part of Great Britain, etc.). Davies takes great care to distinguish English from Scot from Pict from Irish from British, which has a meaning close to the commonly-used term for only the most ancient and the most modern British events.

This does, I must confess, occasionally get in the way of the narrative history. While explaining his reasoning up front in the introduction or preface makes sense, the constant referring to this state of affairs interrupts the flow of the narrative a bit more than it perhaps should.

Davies takes a long-term approach, starting with prehistorical evidence for inhabitation of the areas which are now the British Isles (which used to be connected to the mainland), getting into real substance with the arrival of the Celts in the British Isles (the longest-tenured remaining people in the Isles, pushed to the periphery but still influential in many ways), which for a period of six to seven centuries may have the been the longest period of unity and stability the Isles have ever, or will ever, know. However, even these groups were not unified in a political sense, and tribal warfare was common on all the main islands among competing groups.

Davies proceeds to explore the history of the British Isles under the Romans, during the Germanic invasion/migrations, during the Norse/Viking invasions/raids, during the Norman conquest, and then to the period of English hegemony. The period of English hegemony consists of three primary period: the 'Three Kingdoms' period (England, Ireland, and Scotland); the Union period (which various includes Ireland in union with a unified England and Scotland), and the post-Imperial time, which has seen an increasing move toward devolution, beginning with Irish independence and continuing toward separate parliaments for the 'nations'.

`In all but name, therefore, the policy of devolution had been accepted by the Thatcher government in the cultural and educational sphere many years before it was adopted in the constitutional sphere by 'New Labour'. The cumulative effects were bound to be far-reaching. The Scots and the Welsh, and to some extent the Northern Irish, were given a strong injection not only of self-esteem but also of separation.'

Davies tackles difficult questions and problems that are not typical of standard histories, especially where speculation into the possible future of the British Isles is concerned. As the United Kingdom has never been a nation-state in the same sense as continental nations, what does this mean for the future of the Union? Will the British Isles once again become a collection of peoples, owing more allegiance to the broader, historically-newly forming European Union than toward each other politically, while still maintaining trade and social ties that are incredibly strong? Only time will tell.

A biased history, to be sure, but a very unique insight, and well worth reading for a broader perspective on the history of the peoples of the British Isles than most 'British history' or 'English history' books will give.

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27 of 29 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars A good read, but a limited idea of what history is., 8 Mar 2000
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With this his latest book Norman Davies has set the seal on his claim to be the foremost popular British historian of our times. This makes it all the more unfortunate that he perpetuates the old idea history is nothing more than the history of the governing elite. That is the subject matter of this this book. The other 99% of the British and Irish peoples, and the great historical forces which moulded them, hardly get a look in.

For example, dynastic politics in the late medieval period are covered in detail, with all the crownings, marriages, enfoeffments, rebellions and inheritances carefully recorded. But the Black Death, which utterly transformed the lives and economic relationships of everyone alive at the time and for centuries to come, is only briefly described and not discussed at all. The Irish Famine of the 1840's is referred to a couple of times, but not even described let alone discussed. The Industrial Revolution, surely the most important event since the invention of agriculture 10,000 years ago - and a uniquely British event at its beginning - is given approximately the same amount of space as a detailed account of the habits of the British aristocracy!

This approach to history may have been appropriate in an age when literacy was the preserve of a privilaged minority who were mainly interested in the doings of thier noble ancestors. But it 's woefully inadequate for the 21st century. It's an upstairs-downstairs version of history. It regards all the really important information about the past as 'social history', an inferior branch of the subject, to be treated with disdain by gentlemen historians. Their task is to make an intricate study of which individuals happened to be top dog at any particular time.

As an attempt to redress the anglocentrism of other historians the book must be counted a success, but only a partial one. For example, the author seems to lose interest in the Republic of Ireland as soon as it left the UK. The relative economic decline of the UK during the past half century is discussed in detail over several pages, while the Irish economic boom of the last decade is refered to a couple of times, but not described or discussed. The remarkable historical fact that the Irish per capita income is now higher than the British is apparently a matter of indifference to the author.

Having said all that, it is a remarkably well written book, and definitely a good read. It's no mean feat to sum up such an enormous subject in one volume without the writing either bcoming vague or beginning to look like a series of lists, and Norman Davies avoids both these pitfalls. He can write a good story, and here he has written one which flows on over an enormous timescale without ever losing its immediacy or interest. Though I found myself constantly irritated by his choice of subject matter, I enjoyed reading the book very much, and feel I have had a new and distinctive view of the history of these islands which I could not have got elsewhere.

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11 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars More than meets the eye..., 4 Feb 2005
By Kurt Messick "FrKurt Messick" (London, SW1) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: The Isles: A History (Paperback)
The British Isles are a unique geographical location in the world, having been provided by nature with advantages and problems unique in the world, and peopled by various groups who have worked together and against one another for domination of the Isles. Only for the briefest periods in history did the Isles truly represent a unified group, and even these times were more of an appearance of unity rather than actual unification.
Norman Davies, author of the critically acclaimed `Europe: A History', has put together an interesting history of the British Isles, trying to portray them as a group that, while lacking unity, should be at least addressed as a unified group, always influencing and co-dependent upon each other.

Davies is rather modest in his self-description of the book:

`This book necessarily presents a very personal view of history. Indeed, by some academic standards, it may well be judged thoroughly unsound. As I wrote in relation to a previous work, it presents the past 'seen through one pair of eyes, filtered by one brain, and recorded by one pen'. It has been assembled by an author who, though being a British citizen and a professional historian, has no special expertise in the British historical field.'

Davies self-criticism is really far too strongly expressed here, for he does an admirably thorough job at documentation, reporting, and theorising. Taking a cue from other historians who worry about the increasing lack of historical knowledge of the general public coupled with the increasing specialisation which causes people to lose proper perspective, Davies has put together a comprehensive history of the British Isles which strives to escape at least some of the problems of previous histories.

For instance, it has only been within the last generation that 'English History' has come to be seen as an inaccurate term for discussion of the affairs of all the Isles, or even for the history of the largest island, Great Britain. To this day, anomalies exist that confuse the status of the islands (all cars in the United Kingdom, for instance, carry the plate coding GB, even those cars in Northern Ireland, part of the United Kingdom that is not part of Great Britain, etc.). Davies takes great care to distinguish English from Scot from Pict from Irish from British, which has a meaning close to the commonly-used term for only the most ancient and the most modern British events.

This does, I must confess, occasionally get in the way of the narrative history. While explaining his reasoning up front in the introduction or preface makes sense, the constant referring to this state of affairs interrupts the flow of the narrative a bit more than it perhaps should.

Davies takes a long-term approach, starting with prehistorical evidence for inhabitation of the areas which are now the British Isles (which used to be connected to the mainland), getting into real substance with the arrival of the Celts in the British Isles (the longest-tenured remaining people in the Isles, pushed to the periphery but still influential in many ways), which for a period of six to seven centuries may have the been the longest period of unity and stability the Isles have ever, or will ever, know. However, even these groups were not unified in a political sense, and tribal warfare was common on all the main islands among competing groups.

Davies proceeds to explore the history of the British Isles under the Romans, during the Germanic invasion/migrations, during the Norse/Viking invasions/raids, during the Norman conquest, and then to the period of English hegemony. The period of English hegemony consists of three primary period: the 'Three Kingdoms' period (England, Ireland, and Scotland); the Union period (which various includes Ireland in union with a unified England and Scotland), and the post-Imperial time, which has seen an increasing move toward devolution, beginning with Irish independence and continuing toward separate parliaments for the 'nations'.

`In all but name, therefore, the policy of devolution had been accepted by the Thatcher government in the cultural and educational sphere many years before it was adopted in the constitutional sphere by 'New Labour'. The cumulative effects were bound to be far-reaching. The Scots and the Welsh, and to some extent the Northern Irish, were given a strong injection not only of self-esteem but also of separation.'

Davies tackles difficult questions and problems that are not typical of standard histories, especially where speculation into the possible future of the British Isles is concerned. As the United Kingdom has never been a nation-state in the same sense as continental nations, what does this mean for the future of the Union? Will the British Isles once again become a collection of peoples, owing more allegiance to the broader, historically-newly forming European Union than toward each other politically, while still maintaining trade and social ties that are incredibly strong? Only time will tell.

A biased history, to be sure, but a very unique insight, and well worth reading for a broader perspective on the history of the peoples of the British Isles than most 'British history' or 'English history' books will give.

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2.0 out of 5 stars Doesn't live up to previous works
I bought this book after reading Norman Davies' Europe. UNfortunately, most of this book feels like an attempt to cash in on the success of the far superior Europe. Read more
Published 5 months ago by roe_cat

1.0 out of 5 stars Critically well received but a disappointment
Given the reviews of this book on Amazon and elsewhere I expected something special but was hugely disappointed. Read more
Published 19 months ago by T.E.W.

4.0 out of 5 stars Balanced in view, but not in detail
This great book by Norman Davies is a valuable overview of the history of the isles but, like his European history before it, should be used as a spring board to inspire research... Read more
Published 23 months ago by Colm O'Donaill

5.0 out of 5 stars A good non-Anglocentric history of the British Isles
Davies writes a superb book which is a wonderful antedote to all the horrendous old anglocentric histories I remember reading years ago. Read more
Published on 21 Mar 2007 by Mike J. Wheeler

5.0 out of 5 stars A great and balanced history.
Finally, a balanced history of our islands, one that isn't written from a skewed, hopelessly anglo-centric viewpoint. Read more
Published on 14 Sep 2006 by R. B. Williams

4.0 out of 5 stars Some people can't resist having a go...
I read the bottom most review on this page with dread - whoever 'a reader' is, hiding behind a mask of anonymity, they've grossly misrepresented Norman Davies. Read more
Published on 6 Sep 2004 by jeremyblackburn

4.0 out of 5 stars Britain & Ireland: the Full Monty!
this is an excellent history of britain and ireland that delves into our shared history. it stands out from the crowd for three reasons:

i) davies questions every preconceived... Read more

Published on 7 April 2004 by Ted Maul

4.0 out of 5 stars A great read
This book is a marvel. I enjoyed it thoroughly. Each chapter is memorable for the quality of the writing and the interesting facts and anecdotes which help to memorise what's... Read more
Published on 31 May 2002

1.0 out of 5 stars Awful
Right from the first chapter where the writer insists on using his own weakly imagined names for geographical areas that already have perfectly good ones, this book is nothing... Read more
Published on 24 Jan 2002

2.0 out of 5 stars Not as much fun as Jane Austen's History of England
Norman Davies is a peculiar writer. He goes to great lengths to impress upon us the legitimacy of the national myths of the so-called Celts (most of whom have a Germanic or... Read more
Published on 7 Dec 2001

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