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by Kim Stanley Robinson (Author)
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  • Hardcover: 688 pages
  • Publisher: HarperCollins Publishers Ltd (4 Mar 2002)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 0002246791
  • ISBN-13: 978-0002246798
  • Average Customer Review: 3.3 out of 5 stars See all reviews (18 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: 522,120 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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Kim Stanley Robinson's ambitious exploration of alternative history in The Years of Rice and Salt poses the daunting question "How would our world have developed without Europe?" (Or, rather, without European culture?) When the scouts of the Mongol leader Temur the Lame (Tamburlaine) enter Hungary in 1405, they find only emptiness and death. Plague has swept Europe off the gameboard of history.

The centuries that follow are initially dominated by expanding Islamic nations and the monolithic Chinese empire. It's a grand chronicle of rising and falling cultures, with individuals forever struggling to make a difference to the slow-motion landslide of events. Extra continuity is given by a touch of fantasy as the Buddhist wheel of reincarnation brings back the same characters (coded by initials) again and again with varied roles, relations and sexes. Their stories are touching and very human.

Episodes of our own history are artfully echoed. America is discovered by Chinese ships from the west, with fateful effects for the native tribes and the "Inka" theocracy further south. The scientific ideas of da Vinci's Renaissance are reflected by the Alchemist of Samarkand, reluctantly devising fresh weapons of war. New forms of government arise. Islamic splinter groups move into empty Europe and in that softer climate develop dangerous notions like feminism. A First World War eventually comes, later than we'd expect but horribly prolonged.

Then Muslim scientists begin to see the implications of the mass-energy theories of a savant from the Indian subcontinent:

Invisible worlds, full of energy and power: sub-atomic harems, each pulsing on the edge of a great explosion...There was no escaping the latent violence at the heart of things. Even the stones were mortal.

This immense tapestry of history that never happened is constantly illuminated by the small comedies, tragedies, romances and triumphs of memorably real individuals. The Years of Rice and Salt is a brave new landmark in alternate history, deservedly shortlisted for the British SF Association and Arthur C Clarke awards. --David Langford --This text refers to the Paperback edition.

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Best known for his epic science fiction, Robinson has produced a massive historical thriller that is likely to bring his work to a legion of new readers. That's not to say he has left SF concepts behind: a Great Plague has destroyed Europe, and the world is a very different place. Bold Bardash is a horseman in the army of Temur. As he rides west across the Steppe and onto the Magyar Plain, he discovers a town in which everyone is dead, destroyed by the plague. Into a now empty land pour the opportunists: the merchants, the slavers and the warlords. Into this complex and colourfully detailed narrative, Robinson has woven a haunting poetic strand that is never subsumed in the adventure and sweep of the tale.

This is an epic journey through many hundreds of years of Eastern culture, charting its shaping of world history following the almost complete annihilation of Western civilization by a great plague. The journey begins with Bold, a Mongolian army deserter, who crosses the ravaged wastelands of the west until he reaches Egypt where he is sold as a slave. There he meets Kyu, a young black eunuch, and the two go on to find work in the Forbidden City in Beijing. Thus begins this 're-incarnation compendium' in which Bold and Kyu are born again many times over, escorting us through history in their many guises - Chinese explorer, alchemist, Samurai warrior, poet, doctor, physicist. But always their names begin with the same letters, one of the many literary devices employed by the author to help the reader steer a course through territory which is both uncharted and unimaginable. The book chronicles a centuries-long battle for supremacy - religious, military and scientific - and culminates in a 'long war'. Although it has obvious parallels with the first world war, with its vivid and horrific descriptions of trench warfare, this is a 67-year conflict between Chinese and Muslim civilization leaving a billion dead. This weighty tome, biblical in its scope and style, provides a challenging read, both in terms of size (over 700 pages) and in the complexity of its arguments. These include lengthy explorations of the world's religions and philosophies, technical descriptions of scientific advances and military capability and involved discussion of some of the great moral questions of history such as distribution of wealth and the subjugation of women. The reader who can cope with all of this will be left with an unforgettable picture of how the world might have been and a sense of how events could yet unfold. (Kirkus UK)

Hugo winner Robinson (Antarctica, 1998, etc.) follows three characters over seven centuries on an alternate Earth in which Islam and Buddhism are the dominant religions. Her charming though ponderous study in comparative religions opens with wandering Mongol scout Bold Bardash stumbling through an abandoned Athens, where the Black Death has wiped out everyone. Christianity just about dies out, Judaism is a minority cult, and, after many barbarous and pointless struggles between petty warlords, the New World is discovered by the Chinese Navy, and the Renaissance is played out as a conflict between a Middle Eastern Islam and Chinese Buddhism. Robinson explores ten periods in this alternate history with earthy, pragmatic Bardash, impetuous, vengeful Kyu, and quietly intellectual I-Li undergoing many reincarnations: orphaned Indian girl, Sufi mystic, African eunuch, Sultan's wife, Chinese admiral, dourly brilliant alchemist, feminist poet, village midwife, glassblower, theologian, etc. Robinson avoids the battles and calamities that mar most alternate histories, leaving his characters to discuss at sometimes tedious length the esoteric ironies among evolving theological and political ideologies as China assumes unsteady mastery of the globe. Overlong, but blessed with moments of wry and gentle beauty as friends and antagonists rediscover each other under different guises in exotically dangerous locales. (Kirkus Reviews)

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16 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Huge, fun, clever, flawed, 30 Sep 2003
By N. Clarke (Lancs, UK) - See all my reviews
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Subject-wise, _The Years of Rice and Salt_ pushed all the right buttons for me - opening with a Journey to the West pastiche was always going to score it points, then there was a section set in Samarkand, quotations from Ibn Khaldun, and some deftly-drawn portraits of medieval China. I'm a sucker for a) cleverness, and b) well-crafted settings outside the pseudo-medieval fantasy norm, and this book hits both markers. So I wanted desperately to like it. In some ways, I did.

But there are two fundamental flaws, in my opinion. Firstly, the device of reincarnating the same set of characters fails; none of said characters are distinctive or memorable enough from life to life, and so end up being effectively 'new' in every section/time period. There's little chance for the reader to develop any emotional investment before the section ends and the whole thing starts again, and it becomes difficult to truly care.

Its second problem is, curiously, its lack of scope and vision. While the novel's stage is an entire world over six or so centuries, the device of keeping the characters together in each incarnation means that each section concentrates on one small area, robbing the narrative of the benefits of multiple, varied viewpoints. The scale is narrow rather than epic, and the action tends to get bogged down in details. This would be fine if the details were used to build character or illuminate the larger picture - the themes of this alternate, Europe-less world - but a lot of it reads like navel-gazing.

Many of the truly interesting implications are skipped over in favour of scientists ahead of their time discovering exactly the same things at almost exactly the same time their counterparts did in the non-fictional world, as if Robinson feels that certain universal boxes must be checked along the road to 'development', whatever the structure or imperatives of a society. (Meanwhile, literature, drama and art get short shrift). Often even the same words are used - I know little about the history of scientific thought, but would a world whose development was shaped by Arabs and Chinese still have used so many Greek and Latinate constructions to label their deeds? (okay, so he can get away with Greek, Islamic scholars were big on Greek. but still).

While there are glimpses of greater things - Buddhist attitudes and beliefs are used very well, and the different trajectory of American history is intriguing, but frustratingly underexplored - Robinson seems to be more interested in following a pretty conventional path. Perhaps dictated by his reincarnation device, he surrenders to the temptation to work towards a conclusion, as if human history could have ultimate purposes or goals. (I imagine one could argue that this reflects the world-view of those he writes about, but intentional or not it doesn't work!). Ultimately, this is too big a topic for one novel, and in trying to cover everything the author spreads himself too thinly, and ends up short-changing a fascinating world.

Despite these caveats, this remains a hugely enjoyable and memorable read, a rich tapestry of cultures and ideas rarely explored in genre fiction. Worth a look.

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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Bitter Salt, Lustrous Rice, 17 Sep 2003
By Patrick Shepherd "hyperpat" (San Jose, CA USA) - See all my reviews
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This is a massive and ambitious work, perhaps too ambitious as it attempts to show how the world would have developed if the Black Death of 14th century Europe had been even more virulent, and instead of wiping out a third of the population it wipes out just about everyone in Europe. In doing so, KSR has set himself the task of recreating almost 700 years of history and all the geo-political, philosophical, religious, and scientific ideas and events that would occur in that span. In some ways, he comes close to succeeding, managing to present viewpoints that are probably very foreign to most Christians in at least a semi-understandable manner. But he also falls off the wagon at times and deteriorates into pedagogy and diatribe.

The book starts very slowly, following a single individual as he treks through the incredibly deserted lands of the newly depopulated Europe, and really doesn't pick up speed until we reach The Alchemist, where we see a grand flowering of scientific investigation, paralleling the accomplishments of Newton, Leibnitz, and other European researchers, but from a Muslim viewpoint. Here for the first time in the book do we get some depth to the characters, and a first peek at the overriding theme of the book, on the power and obligation of the individual to do his utmost to change the world for the better, even if only by a miniscule amount.

From here on the book is very uneven. Some sections, such as the ones detailing the events in the New World, are fascinating for their different development from our own history. Others bog down in debates over very foreseeable changes in and clashes between various religions (mainly Islam and Buddhism) and their sub-sects.

Part of the problem here is his set of continuing, re-incarnated characters between each major section. At just about the point where you become interested in these people, where they have real faces and recognizable emotions and problems, that section will end, and in the following section you have new characters, who have some of the traits of the earlier ones, but often the relationship is not obvious, and the character's names are strange enough to cause additional problems in recognition. Another problem is KSR's depiction of the bardo, where souls go prior to re-incarnation. His description of this spiritual plane never made a concrete image for me, nor did it seem to make much logical sense. And finally, KSR's commitment to the ideal of communism at times becomes too strident, with too much of a sugar-coated outlook on the possibility of changing human nature to where that ideal could really form a workable society.

So what is good? The grand sweep of this book will eventually catch you up in its implacability, the sense of inevitableness as KSR's imagined world shows so many striking, logical, and ultimately depressing parallels to our own. And by presenting some of the basic tenants of Islam in this fictional form, the reader will come away with a better appreciation of this religion and the possible power of its adherents as a force for good and enlightened investigation into all aspects of the world. Some of the poetry within these pages will evoke an awed feeling of 'this captures this feeling, this moment, exactly.'

A grand idea, an impressive attempt, but with too many flaws to be considered great. Still, it shows that KSR is not afraid of attempting something new, something that would give most authors a bad case of palsy to even consider.

--- Reviewed by Patrick Shepherd (hyperpat)

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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars What if western civilization never existed?, 10 Nov 2002
By Mary Whipple (New England) - See all my reviews
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Imagine, for a moment, that western civilization not only did not evolve as we know it today, but that, in fact, it never existed at all. This intriguing speculation is the underlying premise of a novel which forces the reader to rethink all the assumptions with which we habitually evaluate the past--the "givens" through which we interpret events. Robinson presupposes that virtually all the inhabitants of Europe were wiped out by a plague in the fourteenth century and the continent left uninhabited. But this was not the end of the world, nor was it the end of learning and "progress." Life continued, but all the intellectual developments arose out of the Muslim states, China, India, and eventually the North America of the Native Americans.

Alternating workman-like prose with prose "poems" and, occasionally, stories and legends, Robinson crafts a fast-paced history of a different world, creating two characters who appear and reappear in different incarnations from 783 a. H. (after Hegira), roughly the late 14th century, to the present day. Keeping basically the same personalities, regardless of their incarnations, Bold Bardash (Bihari, Bistami, Butterfly, Bahram, etc.) and Kyu (Kokila, Kya, Katima, Kheim, etc.) travel through time, experiencing life under the Mongols, Indians, early Chinese emperors, Muslim leaders, and Japanese sailors during their discovery of the New World.

Some episodes are much more vivid, and ultimately more enlightening, than others, and as the cultures are brought to life, along with their different views of man's place in the universe, Robinson shows how the desire to impose one's own religion or beliefs on the outside world is the basis of some of the cruelest violence throughout history. Ultimately, the Great War, lasting sixty-seven years and costing one billion lives, pits the rulers of Dar al-Islam against the Travancori League (India), China, and the Hodenosaunee League (Native America).

While it is intriguing to contemplate alternative history, Robinson's goal--the alternative history of the entire world for the past six hundred years is an enormous subject, one which, because of its breadth and scope seems to lose focus and pace as the book progresses. And while the reincarnations of Bold and Kyu help to bridge many gaps and avoid some problems of character development, the device becomes a bit tired by the end. Still, in showing us how all aspects of our current knowledge might have developed in other societies if western civilization had not existed, Robinson goes a long way toward reducing intellectual arrogance and increasing empathy for other cultures. Despite the book's limitations, Robinson succeeds in creating an alternative history which offers much food for thought and considerable narrative excitement. Mary Whipple

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5.0 out of 5 stars "Oriental" alternate history of the world
When the Mongol hordes reach Europe to fulfill their destiny of plunder and destruction, they find it empty... The whole population has been wiped out by the Pleague. Read more
Published 1 month ago by Frederic J. Pont

1.0 out of 5 stars KSR's worst book
I bought this book as I'd enjoyed Robinson's other books so much, particularly the Mars trilogy. While it started out well, The Years of Rice and Salt descended quickly into... Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars Europe without Europeans
Robinson takes the basic premise of that of Christopher Evans' `Aztec Century'. There, the plague devastated Europe to the extent that social progress was halted, allowing the... Read more
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2.0 out of 5 stars great idea, poor execution
I bought it on the strenth of the premise alone and struggled to ever engage with a book I dearly wanted to. Read more
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4.0 out of 5 stars Magnificent pessimism
I can understand some of the criticisms made by other reviewers but somehow feel they are missing the point of this epic conception, and feel it deserves at least another half a... Read more
Published on 15 April 2006 by H. W. GOUGH-COOPER

2.0 out of 5 stars A good idea badly implemented
This book has a good idea behind it and starts well. However, as the book progresses, the inventiveness and originality get overshadowed by just how utterly dull the book is... Read more
Published on 29 Nov 2003

3.0 out of 5 stars Too much Salt
Years of Rice and Salt first got my attention due to its interesting core plot, i.e. the non-existence of Europeans. Read more
Published on 27 Oct 2003 by William G. Kent

2.0 out of 5 stars An effort to finish
Haven't read any of his books since the Mars series. The book starts really well, with a great concept. Read more
Published on 25 Jul 2003 by A. G. Williams

3.0 out of 5 stars A good book - Pity, it could have been great.
As a history addict, particularly ancient and medieval, I always find fascinating any scenario of what might have been and never was. Read more
Published on 6 May 2003 by Nick Candoros

3.0 out of 5 stars Very good but flawed
I enjoyed this book and it certainly is a good idea. It follows the characters of K, B and I through 1000 years of alternative history. Read more
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