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Zeitgeist

Smashing Pumpkins Audio CD
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The Smashing Pumpkins were one of the most popular alternative rock bands of the 1990s, mostly thanks to the success of second and third albums Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. At the height of their fame they guest-starred in a memorable episode of The Simpsons.

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  • Audio CD (9 July 2007)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Warner
  • ASIN: B000RHQZKA
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 3.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (61 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 29,938 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. Doomsday Clock
2. 7 Shades Of Black
3. Bleeding The Orchid
4. That's The Way [My Love Is]
5. Tarantula
6. Starz
7. United States
8. Neverlost
9. Bring The Light
10. [Come On] Let's Go!
11. For God And Country
12. Pomp And Circumstances

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In their prime The Smashing Pumpkins were pompous, bombastic, almost apologetically unfashionable but mostly just an awesome rock band.

Chief Pumpkin Billy Corgan seemed to be a grunge Morissey in the early 90s, massively talented but despised and revered in equal measure. Was he the saviour of rock or just a monumentally precious, whining tosser, guilty of taking himself far too seriously and seemingly bereft of any recognisable sense of humour?

Like the po-faced Manchunian Smiths man, Corgan was both. Again, just like The Smiths man, after his band disbanded, his latter work palled into significance compared to his earlier triumphs.

So years after Billy's ill-fated Zwan project, Chicago Billy is back, head still shaven and still looking like Uncle Fester's guitar-wielding twin.

Guitarist James Iha and bassist Darcy were not invited back for the big reunion, or maybe they just laughed out loud when they heard the title of this LP, the band's sixth but first with just drummer Jimmy Chamberlain and Corgan as the only original members.

Zeitgeist? Why not just call your LP 'Showing off on Facebook', 'Complaining about reality TV', or 'Download the best songs', all equally stupid but utterly now titles.

Still, at least the music pummels away with no mercy, like a rabid boxer or an annoying child next to you on the bus. ''Doomsday Clock'' kicks off the record and it is fiercely, brilliantly intense rock, the like of which even the Pumpkins themselves haven't really managed since ''Quiet'' booted the hell out of their breakout album, Siamese Dream.

Ex heroin-addict Chamberlain is still a drummer not to be trifled with, and there will be moments when listeners may wonder, like on the taut, puncturing ''7 Shades Of Black'', how exactly the former jazz drummer hits his snares that hard without his elbows disintegrating into dust. Top work, fella.

Skinhead Bill still sings in the same vampiric croak and yes, still bangs on histrionically about how sad it is to be a millionaire rock-star. But even that can't hide the fact that this tightly-produced slab of angst is not just a return to form for the world's favourite vegetable band but a stonking rock album in its own right. Now back to Illinois with you, and don't show your face round here 'til you've learnt some jokes. --Louella Deville

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SMASHING PUMPKINS Zeitgeist (2007 UK 12-track CD album which sees Billy & Jimmy reunite with new band members Jeff Schroeder and Ginger Reyes [minus James & DArcy] including the singles Tarantula & Thats The Way [My Love Is] picture / lyric sleeve)

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36 of 38 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars A Very Good Pumpkins album 22 July 2007
By Mookie
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People have been lining up to have a pop at Zeitgeist, including a ridiculous amount on here who penned reviews based on hearing the first (and poor) single, hearing a couple of dodgy live outtakes or obtaining, (cough) "an advance copy" (cough).

It's easy to have a pop at Billy Corgan. He wears his heart on his sleeve and has done a complete u-turn on his millenium 'rock is dead' rhetoric. His notorious 'artistic temperament' makes him an easy target and always will do. That said, he remains the one true survivor of the early 90s US alt-rock scene, (now that Pearl Jam have well and truely gone down the mainstream route with their sub-U2 latest offering and Rolling Stones support slots) and i'd suggest his longevity is in no small part down to his willingness to try new things and experiment with new sounds. For me he stands alongside Cobain as the only 2 real talents of that scene.

So to Zeitgeist. Id dispel the 2 most common criticisms thus:

"It isn't Mellon Collie / Siamese Dream"

- Of course it isn't. Since when did the Pumpkins EVER try to recreate previous albums? This was the band that issued a double album that went 13 times Platinum in the US alone, then followed it with a complete musical right turn to the 80s electronica-inspired Adore - a superb album, if commercially unsuccessful.

"It's only Billy and Jimmy, therefore not the Smashing Pumpkins"

- Siamese dream was written and performed almost exclusively by BC and JC as well. Let's face it, although we miss them D'Arcy and James Iha were always the Pumpkins' window dressing.

So forget bemoaning the fact BC and JC aren't still stuck in the 1990s and instead enjoy a record that shows flashes of sublime quality of the type many of today's overhyped young pretenders would give their right arm to be able to produce.

"Bleed The Orchid" is a Pumpkins classic that would sail effortlessly onto any 12-track 'Best Of'. The poppy "Bring The Light" would sit astride many a popular radio playlist were it being performed by The Killers or Razorlight. "Doomsday Clock" and "United States" are OTT, loud and just plain evil tunes. Corgan's ear for glorious melody is fully intact on Starz, Pomp & Circumstance and That's The Way (My Love Is). In true Pumpkins fashion the album is over-long and contains a couple of filler tracks that could've easily been left off the final cut. Most disappointing is the bizarre decision to release different editions of the album with different bonus tracks exclusive to each. A pretty poor show, especially when 2 of the bonus tracks "Gossamer" and "Stellar" are amongst the strongest tunes from the Zeitgeist sessions. Both should've made the 12-track (at the expense of Tarantula and Neverlost i'd suggest). You've done yourselves no favours there, guys.

Overall this is a damn good album. It sits comfortably within the Pumpkins catalogue and shows there plenty of life in the old dog yet.

Long may they rumble on.
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10 of 11 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Gets better with each listen; a real grower. 18 July 2007
Format:Audio CD
I, like many of the other reviews that I have read, was not overly impressed with this album when I first heard it. This was a huge disappointment to me as Zeitgeist was one of my most anticipated albums since I had first heard of the reunion.
I really liked Tarantula and Doomsday Clock, but nothing else stood out. However, I kept wanting to listen to it and I'm thankful to say that after about 6 or 7 listens, I really like it now, and it stands up well against their back catalogue. I always thought Machina was a bit of let down, bar a couple of classics such as Everlasting Gaze and Stand Inside Your Love. This is a return to form in terms of consistency. Every song is strong apart from United States which, despite some good moments, is a bit of a self indulgent dirge. My highlights are Doomsday Clock, 7 Shades of Black, Tarantula and Bring The Light, which contains some wonderful guitar, powerhouse Chamberlin drumming, and great tempo changes. Doomsday Clock and 7 Shades of Black are two heavyweight old school Pumpkins rockers, and Tarantula hears Corgan's sublime screeching guitar return after an absence of far too long. There are still moments of Corgan's mellower more romantic side with the likes of That's The Way (My Love Is), which is in the vein of Zwan, which is not such a bad thing in my opinion. Corgan's willingness to experiment is still evident in For God and Country and Pomp and Circumstances. These two tracks require the most patience, but are rewarding in the end.
The album has been criticised as not being a true Pumpkins record due to the absence of Iha and D'arcy, but the fact that it is well documented that the Pumpkins masterpiece Siamese Dream was almost solely recorded by Corgan and Chamberlin renders this criticism void. Zeitgeist doesn't reach the sublime heights of Siamese Dream or it's excellent successor Mellon Collie, but it is still a worthy addition to your Smashing Pumpkins collection.
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9 of 10 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent if you're not after the ballads 18 July 2007
Format:Audio CD
I was never a big lover of the Pumpkins' ballads off of the earlier albums. So, after hearing Tarantula and Doomsday Clock, decided to get the latest album as both songs were very energetic (like all my favourite Pumpkins songs off of Mellon Collie...). After reading some of the bad reviews I was not expecting the overall album to be very good, but, in my opinion, it is easily the best Pumpkins album overall. Most of the songs have tremendous energy and the sound is very fresh - not just a rehash of the old Pumpkins sound.
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4.0 out of 5 stars very fresh sounding
I came to the Pumpkins late. I'd heard some of Adore and liked it, but didn't really discover them properly to Machina era. I liked that album. Read more
Published 3 months ago by Mr. N. J. Milton
4.0 out of 5 stars Corgan's bid to make himself culturally relevant again. Pretty good...
Who would think we'd have a new Pumpkins album in 2007, seven years after the band had, well, disbanded. Read more
Published 7 months ago by Mike London
5.0 out of 5 stars Smashing Pumpkins 02
This is my second album I have purchased of smashing pumpkins which is excellent this a different type of music which i don't normally listen to. Which I have enjoyed very much.
Published 11 months ago by Emma
4.0 out of 5 stars A welcome comeback for The Smashing Pumpkins
After a 7 year hiatus due to a break-up in 2000 and then a subsequent reunion in 2005, The Smashing Pumpkins, minus James and Melissa, finally release new material. Read more
Published 18 months ago by Amillionmiles
5.0 out of 5 stars Every song is awesome.
Just when we thought Smashing Pumpkins had split up for good, they return with this killer album.
The album keeps to their style of music, but in a very different... Read more
Published on 30 Nov 2010 by Dudio
3.0 out of 5 stars return to form
I stopped buying Smashing Pumpkins albums after Machina. Frankly, I was so disappointed with all their albums after the amazing Siamese Dream that I wished I hadn't bothered. Read more
Published on 5 April 2010 by P. J. Jones
3.0 out of 5 stars Billy Corgan turned up to 11 is not necessarily a good thing
And so, the Smashing Pumpkins return from a LONG hiatus...or, to be more accurate, only half of them do. Read more
Published on 28 July 2009 by Mr. B. L. Jones
4.0 out of 5 stars Raw, solid comeback album.
This album had suffered at the hands of many old-school SP fans who have condemned it as being not much more than a Billy Corgan solo effort. Read more
Published on 23 Mar 2009 by Ant Etches
4.0 out of 5 stars plus ce change plus ce meme chose
Billy has a massive ego; the lyrics are more obvious in their self-centeredness than before; he does all the production and instrumentation himself - something he's always been... Read more
Published on 5 Dec 2008 by GOAT
1.0 out of 5 stars This album sucks
I am a big fan of the smashing pumpkins but have to say this album isnt worth buying simply because it doesnt live up to the high standard of their earlier albums, even the album... Read more
Published on 17 Oct 2008 by Mr. Ms. Tait
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