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Vorsicht! Watch out! Karl Renz is as sure to madden as he is to delight-but people keep coming back anyway, because he is so right, or perhaps only because he is so entertaining. With Karl, every idea, every theory, every sacred idol of the mind, is fair game. Sooner or later, he will turn his attack to one of your most cherished beliefs, and his bite is sure to sting, but then, amidst all the fun and laughter and the relaxed atmosphere of acceptance that he generates, you will start to laugh at yourself, and the hardened misconceptions with which you perpetuate your suffering will begin to fall away. Karl is a teacher of non-duality; he recommends no specific technique and advocates no method. His talk will contradict itself, or run in circles, or simply converge into indecipherable paradoxes. The room is full of people determined to understand his system-struggling to figure it out, once and for all, write it down, memorize it, and then walk away "enlightened"-but there can be no figuring out, because any enlightenment you could "figure out" would be a mere idea. Karl is always pointing to something beyond ideas and concepts, and he takes you there.
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No Spiritual Lollipops Here
4 Jun 2011
Format:Paperback
It seems that nonduality teachers are popping up everywhere - offering satsang, selling books and CDs, and delivering the message of "one without a second." But if you pay close attention to their teachings, you notice that most of them only pay lip service to the core nondual pointer -- that there is no separate individual entity -- and then go on to offer all kinds of hope and prescribe all sorts of practices for the entity that doesn't exist. In other words, they're just offering more spiritual lollipops under the popular Advaita label.
That's all fine and wonderful. But Karl Renz has nothing to do with those teachings. He demolishes every hope, every practice, every concept - even the most beautiful concepts such as "divine love," "grace" and "truth" - and leaves you with no landing place. You may find yourself feeling confused, demoralized, hopeless. And yet, when you've finally stopped grasping at straws, there is That which never needed anything, just obscured by the belief that there's someone who needs to find it.
Despite his ruthless and irreverent teaching methods, Karl is a charming, highly intelligent and very funny guy. Compassionate, too - although "compassion" is another one of those terms that Karl will poke fun at. All those characteristics come across in this book. It's like having a ringside seat at a live meeting with Karl.
If you're a fan of Karl's earlier book, The Myth of Enlightenment: Seeing Through the Illusion of Separation, like I am, you'll find this book to be more raw and immediate, with virtually no editing of the original dialogs. Karl takes on seeker after seeker, relentlessly stripping away their cherished beliefs and reminding them that they already are what they seek. You can almost see the sparks fly. Careful, you might get burned yourself.
That's all fine and wonderful. But Karl Renz has nothing to do with those teachings. He demolishes every hope, every practice, every concept - even the most beautiful concepts such as "divine love," "grace" and "truth" - and leaves you with no landing place. You may find yourself feeling confused, demoralized, hopeless. And yet, when you've finally stopped grasping at straws, there is That which never needed anything, just obscured by the belief that there's someone who needs to find it.
Despite his ruthless and irreverent teaching methods, Karl is a charming, highly intelligent and very funny guy. Compassionate, too - although "compassion" is another one of those terms that Karl will poke fun at. All those characteristics come across in this book. It's like having a ringside seat at a live meeting with Karl.
If you're a fan of Karl's earlier book, The Myth of Enlightenment: Seeing Through the Illusion of Separation, like I am, you'll find this book to be more raw and immediate, with virtually no editing of the original dialogs. Karl takes on seeker after seeker, relentlessly stripping away their cherished beliefs and reminding them that they already are what they seek. You can almost see the sparks fly. Careful, you might get burned yourself.
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This is All there Is
21 April 2012
Format:Paperback
Karl Renz's book is great. For those of you who have a lot of concepts about enlightenment, Karl rips right through them. I have seen kark give Talks a few times and he definitely is one of the best speakers on Advaita today. It is very hard to describe Karl's methods because he is so spontaneous. I truly recommend this book and all his other books to any sincere seeker.
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