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The Years of Rice and Salt Paperback – 4 Mar 2002

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Product details

  • Paperback: 400 pages
  • Publisher: Voyager; First Harper p/b Edition edition (4 Mar. 2002)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0002257483
  • ISBN-13: 978-0002257480
  • Product Dimensions: 23.2 x 15.6 x 5.4 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (32 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 1,194,063 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Kim Stanley Robinson has won the Hugo, Nebula and Locus awards. He is the author of over twenty previous books, including the bestselling Mars trilogy and the highly acclaimed FORTY SIGNS OF RAIN. He lives in Davis, California.

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About the Author

Kim Stanley Robinson was born in 1952 and, after travelling and working around the world, has now settled in his beloved California. He is the award-winning author of The Orange County Trilogy, The Mars Trilogy (Red, Green and Blue Mars), Antarctica and a number of highly-praised short story collections.

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3.5 out of 5 stars

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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful By Mr. Joel C. A. Cooney on 9 April 2011
Format: Paperback Verified Purchase
Where to start with this epic...

"The Years Of Rice and Salt" is another example of the "alternative History" sub-genre of SF/Fantasy - the central idea of playing out a scenario in the real world's past, where a change in one or more specific events causes a divergence with the true path of history. Notable examples in the field would be: The Man in the High Castle (Penguin Modern Classics) by Philip K. Dick (The Axis powers win WW2), Pavane (S.F. Masterworks) by Keith Roberts (The Spanish Armada succeed in deposing Queen Elizabeth) and Bring the Jubilee (Millennium SF Masterworks S.) by Ward Moore (The Confederacy win the American Civil War); prolific pulp author Harry Turtledove has created a cottage industry out of these "what if" scenarios. As such it's quite a crowded field for a writer to make his mark. Happily Kim Stanley Robinson has the literary weight, being well respected as an author of "Hard" SF (the "Mars" trilogy), to be taken seriously in any field he chooses to tackle. So how does he do? Pretty well, in the main.

The central conceit in this case is as follows: what if, in the 13th and 14th centuries, instead of circa-30% of Europe's population dying during the Black Death, 99% of them were killed? In other words, what would the last 700 years of Earth history have been like, if you almost entirely remove the influence of White, European (and most crucially) Christian culture?
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful By Frederic J. Pont on 6 Jun. 2009
Format: Hardcover
When the Mongol hordes reach Europe to fulfill their destiny of plunder and destruction, they find it empty... The whole population has been wiped out by the Pleague.
This is the premise on which the book is built. We then follow eight centuries of alternate world history, in a world without Westerners. Chinese discover the New World, Muslims settle in Europe, and everything is completely different.

The book is written from a non-Western perspective. For instance, what makes us care about the characters that we meet over the centuries is that they are successive reincarnation of the same limited number of people. Since the author is still an American, the result is a narrator that is neither fully oriental nor fully familiar, which is exactly the kind of alien feel that makes this alternate history credible.

This is one of the best book I've read, and it towers high over all attempts at alternate history. In that domain we are usually treated either to fantasy worlds without credible links with real history, or with "what if" scenarios that make very little change compared to actual events, and often maintain a very close contact with real history. However, in the "Years of rice and salt", we diverge from history in the late middle ages and never look back.

The book gets weaker as we near the twentieth century, the parallels with history as it really happened get closer. As the scale of the events grows larger and more complex, we are reaching the limits of what a single author-reader pair can achieve, and we progressively "get lost" in the third part of the book.

Still, definitely 5-stars for me, the "6-stars" first half making up for the 4-star last part.
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12 of 13 people found the following review helpful By A Customer on 19 May 2002
Format: Hardcover
I've just finished reading KSR's latest, and greatest novel. If you've read any of his previous books, you'll find the the same qualities; attention to detail bordering on obsessive, beautiful, rich narrative which describes people & places with such colour that one feels as though one is remembering a personal experience. The trademark tiny flashes of humour; a line here, a phrase there.
This novel is a good deal more accesible than the Mars trilogy; you don't need to be a historian to enjoy it (though I did learn a great deal about our actual history). Rather, this book is about personal relationships, with the historical events often appearing as background, rather than the principal subject. Using reincarnation as the plot device to carry the same characters through almost 1000 years, I really became attached to the characters through the book, much more than I did with the Mars characters.
As the story of the world-without-Europeans unfolds, 'B', 'K' and 'I' continually meet each other in a succession lives, and slowly begin to realise that they knew each other in previous re-incarnations. And between lives, they re-group and attempt to lay a kind of path for themselves, always to be re-born as different people, but always as the same individuals.
Up to this point, 'Pacific Edge' has been my favourite KSR book; The Years of Rice and Salt now takes the lead. Take a week-end off and eat, drink and live this book; you'll have a new appetite for knowledge of the world around you.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful By A Customer on 11 Mar. 2003
Format: Paperback
I enjoyed this book and it certainly is a good idea. It follows the characters of K, B and I through 1000 years of alternative history. Each chapter is a short story set in a different place and time and uses the 3 main characters plus a few others repeatedly as reincarnations of the same souls. Some others commented on the nature of the characters but to me they seem Hindu, K is Kali (always trying to change things), B is Brahma (looking for order), though I am not sure who I is supposed to be.
The book has some really good chapters, I particularly liked the idea of the Japanese being forced into exile in North America by the Chinese and forming an alliance with the Native Americans. The Chinese discovery of North America is also well handled.
The flaws of the book are in two areas. As others have commented the book runs out of steam a bit towards the end though I enjoyed the last chapter and the ending. The Great War is not properly told and the section on the Chinese revolution could be a lot more interesting given a bit more space. The penultimate chapter about Nsara is boring and adds nothing to the history. Secondly I think he overstretches himself on the philosophy. He attempts to educate the reader on non Christian world religions such as Islam and Buddhism and has some success. However there is always an obvious anti Islamic bias, particularly regarding Islam's treatment of women. He may have a valid point but he goes on and on and on about it. And as he points out himself women weren't much better treated in other cultures. Eventually he falls into the trap of having to have a 'War of Civilizations' between Islam and the rest. Sound familiar?
All in all though a good and interesting book. It's a great idea and a better writer could have made something spectacular out it.
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