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  • Audio CD (4 Aug 2014)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Metal Blade Records
  • ASIN: B00KYQS61U
  • Other Editions: Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 12,289 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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By Sean Gilmore on 12 Oct 2014
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Sweeping inspirational lyrics and artfully written and mixed - an incredible album from incredible musicians.
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0 of 1 people found the following review helpful By Mr. Mj Bickle on 4 Aug 2014
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Being a big As I Lay Dying fan, I was looking forward to seeing what the guys would do without Tim Lambesis. Go radio friendly and unoriginal is the short answer! As I Lay Dying songs are predominantly filled with harsh vocals and the few clean vocals included tend to compliment the overall sound. Wovenwar is the complete opposite with pretty much all vocals being clean. I'm maybe being a little bias as I prefer Lambesis style growls but even the melodies are average so it doesn't make up for it in that way either. People criticise bands like Bring Me the Horizon for selling out but their last 2 albums are far more metal than this! They could have utilized Shane Blay's screaming vocals a lot more as he has done some awesome work with Oh Sleeper (especially on the Children of Fire album) but they decided to go down the safe and bland mainstream road instead. I still respect them as musicians, for trying a new project and overcoming the dodgy events involving Tim going to jail etc but they could have done much better than this unfulfilling record. It also makes me realise how much of a positive influence Lambesis must have had on the band.
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0 of 1 people found the following review helpful By johnnyh1966 on 6 Aug 2014
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Massive AILD fan myself but trying to get your Wife murdered is unacceptable so the band have had to move on. The remaining AILD members of Josh, Jordan, Nick and Phil are all here but now with new vocalist Shane Blay. Tim he 'ain't but his clean not scream style works really well when combined with the amazing skills of the rest of the band. Thia album is quite simply, brilliant. I for one can't wait to see them in London soon and with tracks like 'Prophets' (mind blowing riffing), 'Sight of Shore', 'The Mason' and 'Identity' it will be epic.
Forget about the doom merchants, this album is a nice slice of gorgeous Metalcore. The King is dead, long live the King.
Johnny H 2014
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0 of 1 people found the following review helpful By Thomas on 6 Aug 2014
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An incredible offering from the ex-As I Lay Dying members (Nick, Josh, Phil and Jordan) and Shane Blay of Oh, Sleeper. 'Wovenwar' will sound familiar to fans of both bands, but this new formation has given the respective musicians a greater opportunity to breathe, resulting in a harmonious and blistering offering.
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A Greater Foundation 5 Aug 2014
By Christian Matthew - Published on Amazon.com
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Ironically enough, the bandmates' previous endeavor featured a song that would almost eerily predict future events of band members: Phil, Nick, Josh, and Jordan. Since there's no getting away from talking about the prior giant of a band, I might as well talk about that first. As I Lay Dying, one of the metalcore gods (I don't use that term lightly). In an oversaturated and underestimated genre, the masterful musicians in As I Lay Dying kept improving and making music that defined said genre, but never defined themselves. While many small bands came and went, As I Lay Dying, with only a handful of others, survived the metaphorical "metalcore purge" following its loss in popularity and talents after hitting the late 2000s. This band seemed to have everything going for them until its founding member dismantled his life and with it shattered the lives of his closest friends. He made a mistake...many mistakes... and this loss of character from the once noble and lovable Lambesis was heartbreaking for the people who knew him prior to this transformation. Some radical fans even supported the man's criminal acts and made comments on how they wish someone was murdered because "she was probably a b**** and deserved it". Then you have Lambesis himself slandering his bandmates to paint himself in a nicer light before prison; with this, you get more Lambesis supporters and more hate against his fellow bandmates who did nothing wrong. I do not condemn him, nor support him, but it is important you know what the band has against them, and the hate they've had to endure from emotionally disturbed "fans" of their previous band. "Sometimes we have to watch our whole lives fall apart, before we can rebuild them again."

Josh, Nick, Phil, & Jordan immediately decided to start a new band with a new name following the arrest of Lambesis. Thus, Wovenwar was born (Originally Wovenhearts, but that wasn't metal enough). At first fans suspected Josh to be taking over all lead vocals, but it was later revealed they added a new bandmate to the formula. Shane Blay of Oh Sleeper was a longtime friend of Nick Hipa and the rest of the band, so it was a no brainer to recruit this talented guy. Now with 3 guitarists and 2 vocalists, the band sought to explore things they never had the luxury of exploring before. With this comes one of the best and freshest releases this past year.

This album is not what I expected...not at all. From `All Rise' I thought the band was going to pursue predictable radio metal. I'm so happy the album branches out as much as it does after their single. Wovenwar musically, still retains a lot of what you'd expect to hear from the guys. It's very similar to metalcore, but explores so much more ground and builds itself so much more complex. I find it especially successful in its exploration of melodic lines. What it loses in overall brutality, it gains in dynamics and diversity. The songs are very varied; they are an exploration of what the members were unable to do for years because of genre constraint. Honestly though, musically, I think these are seriously the best songs the band has ever written. A huge standout has to be the presence of many more solos from nick and fewer breakdowns; also, you can actually hear the bass in the mix and it has a vital role to the overall song structures (Bass tone is fantastic this time around). Vocally, I have some gripes, but I find the album to be 100% perfect on Nick's, Josh's, Jordan's, and Phil's end. With this change in sound, and a primarily clean vocal presence, it's sure to off-put the fans of the original band who were more fans of hardcore than metal. Let's be honest though, these are people who see the word hardcore as a positive and not a genre. If you're not already listening to Tool, Mastodon, Steven Wilson etc... you're probably not interested. These are songs from guys who have been through a lot and these tracks have passion and suffering interlaced in every aspect of their album.

The mixing on this album is great and the harmonies between Josh and Shay really sound incredible with some quality speakers or cans; shane's usually smooth vocals compliment josh's sometimes more abrasive and aggressive cleans. And for those that are afraid there will be no harsh vocals, they are spread across the album (Archers has the most). I think this is something that can appeal to almost anyone. The lyrics hit home and the songs are heavy, but accessible to people who usually don't listen to heavier genres. Plus, you get the treat of hearing the other-worldly acoustic segments on this album. Believe me when I tell you Shane's falsetto is easily the smoothest in the genre. I found myself wanting to simultaneously headbang and dance during Archer's chorus. Some lines hypnotize me with melody, some make me headbang, and some make me want to sing at the top of my lungs. It's a great combination.

Shane is a capable vocalist. His falsettos and softer vocals during acoustic and bridge segments are hands down the best this genre has to offer. It is his strongest feature next to his harsh vocals. He's truly a beautiful singer. My gripe, however, is that the songs where Josh takes over vocal duties for a chorus or a line I think "Wow, that sounds great!" and it makes me wonder why more songs didn't explore this dynamic (Josh's vocal scoop on Ruined Ends is orgasmic). Shane's voice is great, but sometimes he becomes repetitive in vocal texture during 1 or 2 chorus sections. I would give Shane 100% of the beautiful melodic segments, but Josh really shines during his few chorus/line debuts; it maintains the flow, but gives a great contrast. I think a good thing to explore for the next album would be messing around with prominent vocals in the mix per line. The moments where the two's voices weave back and forth are fantastic. The latter songs on the album seem to juggle with this a bit more. Josh has really improved vocally, and you can tell when you see the band live. Matter of Time, where Josh sings the majority of the song sounds fantastic live and is one of the standout tracks on this album. This is an amazing band live and I can easily see them becoming big, but from a different crowd than their previous bands. As of writing this, I've listened to the album in whole over 20 times. It hasn't lost its hold on my mind since I first heard it two weeks ago.

Despite me calling the mix great, the biggest issue with this album is the mixing, but not in the way you'd imagine. The mixing handles dynamics and soundstage wonderfully. The issue however, is that depending on how expensive your listening rig is + whether or not the source is lossless determines how much of the song you actually hear. To people listening on some cheap $10 earbuds or to a 120kbps upload, you'll be missing a ton of the guitarwork and bass in the mix. This is bound to happen when you have 2 vocalists and 3 guitars begging for attention at the same time. Many AILD fans coming to this album might find it much more simplified and less passionate than past albums, but they're not hearing the full album. Listening to the album on about 7 different sources really helps one understand this dilemma. I observed cheaper sources only allowed the rhythm guitar to take the lead, while moving up the quality scale opened the soundstage, and instrument isolation increased. The 2 lead guitars weave themselves together in really interesting ways during each song and it's a shame that so many people will miss how intricate the members truly made the album now that they have a 3rd guitar that covers rythym.

Sweeping from melodic, to heavy, to technical, to bombastic, to everything you'd expect from a talented group of guys and more! Give this a listen from start to finish and you'll definitely hear something new you've never quite heard. It's touching on new territory, but I can easily see Wovenwar truly dominating their field by the 2nd album. Much like the masterful Mastodon releases a different style album every time and still makes it theirs and loved by all, I believe Wovenwar shares the same magic. They just need to explore the music a bit more, get more experimental and really weave a band that stands apart from their past. I can't wait to see what they come up with next!

I give this an album a 5/5. For clean vocal metal, Once More `Round The Sun is the only other recent album I'm willing to rate as highly.
7 of 9 people found the following review helpful
Perfect 6 Aug 2014
By Lennard Van Wyk - Published on Amazon.com
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This is the best thing that could happen to these guys. The one thing that always bothered me from AILD, was the vocals. I was never really a fan of AILD vocals, but the music was always really good. So now we have the perfect mix. The music is still heavy, although I would not go as far as saying its another AILD album, but it is heavy enough for me. Good riffage and solos and double bass drums. And some really nice melodies. And the new vocals are really good. This guy can actually sing, and I think it complements the music very well.
6 of 8 people found the following review helpful
I love As I Lay Dying 11 Aug 2014
By Rockin' Old Geezer - Published on Amazon.com
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I'm not sure it's metal any more. I love As I Lay Dying. I always will. This is excellent HARD ROCK though.

This is the album All That Remains and Atreyu should have written.

Go reclaim hard rock from Breaking Benjamin and Nickelback.

It takes 5 - 10 listens to figure out the truly great ones.

This one might be.

It's pretty and it's hard.

i will always miss brutal but I'm old and i'm tired and brutal is beyond me anyway.

it's pretty and it's hard.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
An unexpecting and entertaining step in the right direction. 22 Aug 2014
By Z. Newell - Published on Amazon.com
Being a huge AILD fan, I was very skeptic of the idea of the band staying away from they're screams and brutalness that fans of As I Lay Dying had come to expect. I am very happy the band changed their name along with their sound. Even with the name change, there is doubt that this is very close to what we would of gotten with a new AILD record had Tim not...ya know... The added vocalist from Oh Sleeper is great, and his vocals have always been one of the best in the genre (imo). He also plays guitar, thus giving the band much more depth and layering that they've only managed to capture in recording. This translate live over incredibly. This song is a great length for a bands 'debut' album. Each song could be used as a single in its own right, and while alll maintain that Wovenwar sound, they all each have they're own structuring and story to tell. In fact, the pacing in this album is great. While most songs are head banging metal anthems with hard melodic influence, they do switch it up and two points on the album to give us a much subtle, yet unmistakably beautiful slower songs that build into epic ballets. Josh lends his vocals in the background mostly, but he does have his own song 'Matter of Time' in which he takes the spotlight. At first I was disappointed that Josh was not taking over lead vocals, but he does have a much better voice for harmonizing and can still hold his own at a couple other parts. 'Rise Again' is a strong track and is the official opener and single for the record. While the song is pretty typical in structure, it's guitar solos and chorus are very impressive. Such a great song, but in my opinion one of the weakest on the album (which is not a bad thing). In my opinion, 'The Mason' is such a heartfelt and experimental song. Some of my favorite uses of effects and singing on the record. Very epic and catchy. I think a lot of people will relate to this song, as well as almost any other on the album. The topics are much more lighter then most As I lay Dying, and all have relatable lyrics. 'Profane' has a great heart edge to it, while 'Archers' furiously knocks you around the track thanks to some amazing drum work, and guest screams from the other Oh Sleeper frontman (Sorry bad with names). Did I mention the instruments? The 3 guitars, drums and bass are utilized to the fullest. The drummer i'm sure is loving having much more experimental beats on this album, really showcasing his skill and ability to write. The bass has some nice parts to shine while the 3 guitars all harmonize with one another to great a perfect equation that is Wovenwar. The vocals like I said are top notch, and very distinct. This band has so much potential, and they have released possibly one of the most solid and best debut albums I've heard from a band in a long time. I'm very excited to see where this train takes us. This record has my recommendation to the fullest if you love music in general. I think everyone will have something here for them.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
An Ambitious Rebirth For An Already Great Band 26 Aug 2014
By SimbaFan4 - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
After hearing the unbelievable news that AILD's frontman Tim Lambesis was arrested for trying to murder his wife, which later led into a 6-year prison sentence, the other four band members decided to continue making music without their previous lead singer. They united Shane Blay, the singer of OH SLEEPER as the singer of their new project, WOVENWAR, which is a very ambitious, diverse, and enjoyable debut and probably among one of the best albums of the year. This album is basically AS I LAY DYING if they played hard rock with a little bit of metal kick to it, and it works completely well. Shane Blay gives this album a nice touch with awesome singing vocals, while the other members aren't slouches either, carrying on some of the trademark AILD sound to this band. Album highlights include RUINED ENDS, lead single ALL RISE, MOVING UP, MATTER OF TIME, DEATH OF RIGHTS, and SIGHT OF SHORE.

Rating: 4.5 stars/5 stars
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