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Joe Nobody , E. Ivester , D. Allen

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19 Jan 2012
Without Rule of Law is an instruction guide for those who prepare. Written by Joe Nobody, author of the bestselling HOLDING YOUR GROUND series of books, this work addresses four skills that may be necessary to survive if a breakdown of society or government should occur. How to Hide How to Evade How to Infiltrate How to Scavenge This book was written for non-military readers who believe in self-reliance and wish to develop advanced, just-in-case capabilities for themselves and their families. The book includes instruction on planning, operational parameters and general guidance should TEOTWAWKI occur and extreme measures are required to survive.

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258 of 293 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Blatantly incorrect information that could get you killed, poor editing, FAKE REVIEWS 11 Feb 2013
By Biology book worm - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback|Verified Purchase
About the fake reviews part, I found that out after posting my original review. It appears that the author is posting some of the 5 star reviews for this book. See my comments in response to the author below for more info on that. Also, it looks like the author is using his multiple accounts to mark this review as "not helpful" so it won't show up to other people. If you found it helpful, please consider marking it as "helpful" so he can't silence this.

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I bought this book after seeing that it had a four star review. I figured it must be decent or it wouldn't have four stars. Boy was I wrong. After having read this book and looking at the reviews again, it's apparent that the people leaving these reviews are pretty inexperienced in this field and don't know enough to detect that the author is lacking some qualifications to write a book like this.

Here are a couple glaring errors that on their own led me to question the rest of what's written in the book:

1) The book says to invest a few thousand dollars into good quality optics for your rifle, and purchase a Gen III auto-gated PVS-14 night vision monocle. He then tells you to mount the PVS-14 IN FRONT OF the rifle scope. He even includes a photo of what is presumably his AR-15 with a PVS-14 mounted in front of what looks like a high power scope. The level of fail here is just astounding. A PVS-14 is always mounted behind your optic, especially a high powered scope!

2) A few pages are spent on the subject of climbing. The author recommends using 400 to 600 pound test fishing line or paracord. He says you can use a larger fishing hook as a "grappling hook". The best part is this quote: "Secure your rope to the grappling hook. Anyone who has secured a fishing knot knows how to do this. If you are not a fisherman, any knot that is secure will do the trick." So what's wrong with this you ask? Well, the average adult male with rifle, body armor, etc weighs something close to 200 lbs. Paracord is supposed to have a breaking strength of 550 pounds, but the commercial stuff available all over the place is often weaker. The author says secure the rope with "any secure knot". Some knots decrease the rated capacity of a line by over 50%. So now we are left with a breaking strength of about 250 pounds. Even the slightest shock from a 200 lb person decelerating using this rope would cause it to fail. The thought of using a fishing line for this is even stupider.

3) Not in the book, but on the author's website he claims that level his IIIa soft body armor will stop a .308 round. That's completely false, IIIa armor will only stop pistol caliber rounds. Again, makes you question the validity of anything he says. From his website: "Body Armor - Point Blank IIIA Less than 4 lbs. Will stop a .308 round (under some circumstances). Breaths well. Not combat armor, but good for survival."

There's a whole bunch of other stuff like this in the book and a lot of grammatical errors, but I don't want to spend an hour listing it all. He lost me after the night vision thing. Instead of reading this, you would be better off finding a better manual written by an legitimate expert on SERE. If you want to read something about tactics to defend yourself in a SHTF situation, I just got finished reading Contact! by Max Velocity and learned a good bit from it.

I'm going to try and return this book to Amazon and order something else that I hopefully learn some new skills from.
223 of 255 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Limited Value 18 Jun 2012
By sbarnett - Published on Amazon.com
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Limited value and I was not convinced the author had first hand experience in these areas.

1) Carry a rifle (AND cleaning/maintenance kit) AND pistol at ALL times. There was no discussion on concealed weapons or rules of engagement. I don't think "stay away from people" really covers it.

2) Very limited discussions on disguise. There is only one discussed for an urban environment. Be a homeless person.

3) Very limited discussion on hiding in an urban setting. There is only one example. Hide under some trash bags.

4) Author actually suggests hiding in a manure pile. Is this even possible? Would you use a shovel to sling s---t onto yourself? He is making the point that people will spend less time searching unpleasant places. True, but a manure pile can be inspected well enough from 20 feet away. More than close enough to see the wet disturbed manure.

5) Make a "rope" ladder for accessing rooftops from an 18 gauge fishing treble hook and 600 lb test fishing line. There is not nearly enough information to convince me this is practical. An inventory of standard access approaches to roofs on commercial buildings and where they are generally located might have been nice.

6) Very few diagrams and those provided are so simple that they do not add value over verbal descriptions.

7) Pictures of equipment are very limited and don't really add value. Seems like they were just thrown in to take up space.

8) Author spends time talking about digging a hole to hide in and some pros and cons of shovel design. I can't imagine a situation where this is really the right solution. Most places will not have deep loose soil. The author admits this could take 3 hours. It is hard to imagine that 3 hours spent on an alternate solution would not be best in almost every case. There is no guidance on when digging a hole is the best solution.

I could go on, but I think you get my point. I was very disappointed.
50 of 65 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Much needed informaiton... 23 Feb 2012
By 122333 - Published on Amazon.com
I was reassured by the ideas and the plans covered. We are prepping like crazy, but all the prep in the world could still leave us vulnerable if our stored food/supplies are stolen/looted or destroyed. Each of these books gives a new position on things I haven't really thought out, like hiding in plain sight (looking like a homeless person) and getting familiar with specific community locations that will be vital for survival, and accessing a building using a car jack etc. These are ideas we can implement/prepare for now while there is still time/resources. This book has hands-on ideas that you will save your life when there is no one else to save yourself but you. I'm ready to start working on these plans/exercises NOW, although I hope our world never gets bad enough to need to defend our supplies etc. I am getting another one a friend of ours.
14 of 17 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars honest eval 13 Aug 2012
By G. Sydnor - Published on Amazon.com
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I will start by saying i am a prior service us army paratrooper(1 enlistment) and 10 years of service navy seal(yes, i actually was) followed by several contracts as a private military contractor. I collect and read guerilla warfare, small unit history and a lot of survivalist books. I have read joes prior book and this one. This book has promise for someone with no training. It contains some interesting info. Where it lacks is it needs more simple illustrations and diagrams. It could be fleshed out more in the evasion and personal camo sections. I like the book, but it really needs about 50 more pages with the above listed info, and some seasame street basic individual and small unit movement instruction. Most people, in my expierience , gain little from military manuals, and this would be a good vehicle for instruction. How about a rewrite, joe? be glad to help. Pat8492@yahoo.com
40 of 53 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars READ ME: Preppers Guide to Stealth & Evasion 6 May 2012
By T.A.L. Dozer - Published on Amazon.com
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READ ME: Preppers Guide to Stealth & Evasion

This book "Without Rule of Law: Advanced Skills Help You Survive" by Joe Nobody is targeted toward Preppers with limited to intermediate skill level. However this book is an excellent refresher to the experienced Prepper. Some of the reviewers have stated that this book is just a rehash of military manuals and knowledge. Respectfully, I would disagree, as this book does cover some military related tactics, techniques and procedures; however these are not cut and paste vignettes. It is true that you may find some of this information in some military manuals, but not distilled of military jargon for the layman and regurgitated into the Prepper perspective for immediate use. To me some of the highlights of this book include Chapter 7 "How to Hide", chapter 8 "How to Evade" and chapter 10 "How to Scavenge" all of which add interesting insight to these topics from the civilian/Prepper perspective. Additionally, the information as presented in this book would be hard to find in any military related manuals. Overall, I personally did not find any new revelations in this book, however this is not a bad thing as I have 23 years of military special operations background. But for the civilian Prepper with limited military know-how this book is an excellent introduction to the skill-sets. I personally would recommend this book to others looking to expand their survivability when the grid goes down.
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