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When Do We Start Fighting

Seafood Audio CD
4.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (11 customer reviews)
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Product details

  • Audio CD (25 Mar 2002)
  • Number of Discs: 2
  • Label: Infectious
  • ASIN: B000063IRA
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Vinyl
  • Average Customer Review: 4.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (11 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 195,364 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

Disc: 1
1. Cloaking
2. Western Battle
3. Pleasurehead
4. What May Be The Oldest
5. People Are Underestimated
6. Splinter
7. In This Light Will You Fight Me?
8. Desert Stretched Before The Sun
9. Similar Assassins
10. He Collects Dust
Disc: 2
1. Cloacking
2. In this Light Will You Fight Me?
3. Similar Assassins
4. People Are Underestimated
5. What May Be The Oldest
6. Porchlight

Customer Reviews

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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars READ THIS REVIEW IT'S THE BEST! 3 Feb 2002
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
Right, lets clear one thing up to begin with. The first track is NOT "Cloaking", it is merely a brief instrumental which leads into "Cloaking", which although is stated as track one on the packaging is really track two. Confused? Good.
"Cloaking" was in fact the first single to be lifted off this album, and with its crunching guitars and shouted chorus, it's not difficult to understand why. This is 2 and a half minutes of classic indie/rock, and sets a high standard for the rest of the album to follow. Thankfully it does.
"Western Battle" is another slice of well-engineered Indie guitar rock which has been sorely missed in the recent influx of American "Nu-Metal" and teen angst bands which tend to focus on impressing little boardies by swearing a lot instead of containing any real emotion or talent (aka Papa Roach!). "Pleasurehead" slows the pace a little, David Line's lilting vocals set against a soft melodic guitar creating a beautifully calm mood, culminating in a sublime guitar finale. "What May Be The Oldest" and "People Are Underestimated" highlight Seafood's interest in using two vocalists. The latter features drummer Caroline Banks on vocals, and is a beautiful beat driven tearjerker with a gorgeous and touching chorus. "Splinter", seafood's biggest selling single to date, is once again pure quality indie, and is most notable for Line's strong vocals. "In This Light Will You Fight Me" is a similarly arranged song to "People Are Underestimated", Bank's vocals again adding a new depth and dimension to Seafood's sound, and the song itself builds to an all out guitar led crescendo, Line's screeching vocals cannot fail to raise the hairs on the back of your neck. "Desert Stretched Before The Sun" is a very laid back, basic acoustic song which highlights Line's vocal abilities.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars fruits of the sea 5 Aug 2001
Format:Audio CD
i heard about seafood through kerrang! magasine, and after hearing the adrenalin rush that is 'cloaking' I was quick to go out and buy it.Not all the songs are a tour de force though;there are some calm acoustic ballads until the tide comes in with tunes such as western battle.You'd be silly not to give this london 4-piece a try.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars great album from start to finish 7 Aug 2001
Format:Audio CD
This album is definately uk album of the year so far. Seafood play the chill out to rock out better than most. With production by eli janney and some vocals on a track by scott mccloud from the fantastic girls against boys make this album a must simply blistering. rock on........
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars The greatest c.d, with added bonus tracks??? 24 Mar 2002
Format:Audio CD
Now this album has been out for almost a year now and has sold by the bucket load but for all that didn't buy this the first time round heres your chance to give them shot. And at this price considering its 2 disks and includes 8 tracks its well worth it! Not only do you get the 3 hit singles 'cloaking' 'splinter' and 'western battle' you also get a stonker of a bonus disk which includs live preformances and demos! A must for any seafood fan and defently worth a try for those that havent yet heard much or any of seafoods great songs. SO WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? BUY NOW!
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Format:Vinyl
When this first arrived through the door I was mildly excited. I've seen Seafood loads of times, and I really like them. So I opened it up to see what was in store for the 'difficult' second album, and to my horror what I found withheld in that shiny little disc was wrong. It should have been a Magnum shot to the head of distortion, and heartfelt melodies surely. But no, I was presented with a collection of down tempo numbers, with a couple of blips of overdrive. Hmmm? Was this acceptable, should I give up hope, and just realise that they've pulled a 'Llama Farmers'? No I shall persevere.
After a few listens this record is growing on me. Cloaking is still as good as it was when I reviewed it. From then on Western Battle is true to form Seafood. Like This Is Not an Exit with balls. This song is a prime example of where the band have moved on since their debut. Babbling backing vocals and layers of guitar really add that depth which previously was missing. What May Be the Oldest is the highlight of this record; a beautiful, passionate song, with Mary Lorson of Madder Rose sharing the vocals. Like the Carpenter's being played by Built to Spill. The general studio work on this record is a lot more accomplished too. Eli Janney (GVSB) really pulls all aspects of the music out to the foreground, which, when they are worth it produces some amazing songs, but you may guess what's coming, not all of the songs are worth it. People Are Underestimated is b-side material at best, with it's sampled beat and breathed vocals, sounding like a old man banging one out whilst partaking in perverted phone calls. Some things never change though. Caroline still hasn't learnt anymore drum rhythms. Her and the Grandaddy drummer could make a concept album around that!
This isn't a bad record.
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3 of 4 people found the following review helpful
Format:Audio CD
'When do we Start Fighting,' the third release and second album proper from London's Seafood, continues the evolution shown between the scuzzed-up Pavement-esque guitar pop of 'Messenger in the Camp' and last year's alternately bruised and wired 'Surviving the Quiet.' The most obvious and immediate difference on this album is in the production: it was recorded in NYC with Eli Janney from US punk pioneers Girls Against Boys, and this has given the record a more aggressive, bass-heavy sound than its predecessors. This is clearly on display in songs like the adrenaline rush of first single 'Cloaking' and the unhinged 'Splinter.' However, this doesn't mean that Seafood have abandoned the wistful ballads of the earlier records: the acoustic 'Desert Stretched Before The Sun' is a low-key delight, and the reworked version of 'What may be the Oldest' featuring backing vocals from the great Mary Lorson (of Madder Rose and Saint Low fame) is one of the album's stand-out tracks for me. Talking of backing vocals, this album sees drummer Caroline doing a lot more singing than on the other records, especially on 'People are Underestimated' and the gorgeous lovesong 'Pleasurehead.' I got the impression that singer David has written his most personal batch of songs yet for this record, and this seems to reflect a new-found confidence in the band. The album sees them experimenting a lot more than previously, using a drum machine on 'People are Underestimated' and drawing on the influence of seminal US post-rock band Slint on closer 'He Collects Dust,' with its spoken-word narrative. All in all, a triumphant return from a band who remain (undeservedly) in relative obscurity...
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