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We Were Dead Before The Ship Even Sank

Modest Mouse Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (20 Feb 2007)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Sony Music
  • ASIN: B000NO1ZZW
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (26 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 12,331 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. March Into The Sea
2. Dashboard
3. Fire It Up
4. Florida
5. Parting Of The Sensory
6. Missed The Boat
7. We've Got Everything
8. Fly Trapped In A Jar
9. Education
10. Little Motel
11. Steam Engenius
12. Spitting Venom
13. People As Places As People
14. Invisible

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Their last album may have given them a certifiable radio hit, airtime on VH1, and a Kidz Bop tribute, but listening to the follow-up to 2004's Good News for People Who Love Bad News, you might get the sense that the members of Modest Mouse are flinching at the spotlight. We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank, the group's fifth full-length release, is denser than its predecessor with tunes that seem willfully harder to penetrate. Even the addition of former Smiths guitarist Johnny Marr to the line-up seems incidental, as Modest Mouse's off-kilter sound stays largely intact. But keep listening and it becomes obvious that the band hasn't lost any of his pop bite, especially midway through with a sweep of terrific songs like "Missed the Boat," "Education" and "Little Motel." It's hard to tell if there's another "Float On" in the bunch. In fact, the first single, "Dashboard," is one of the weakest Isaac Brock has ever penned. With Shins James Mercer adding lovely vocals to "Florida," however, it hardly matters. --Aidin Vaziri

BBC Review

Much has been made of the fact that the Mouse (The Mice?) have been forerunners in the move of so-called 'indie' into the mainstream arena, having scored a very palpable major label hit with 2004's Good News For People Who Like Bad News, after ten years of cult-status. Yet maybe the fuss should be about how they managed this without tarnishing their credentials. We Were Dead! shows everyone how to do it. It's wonderfully mangled and yet massively accomplished at the same time. Some trick!

With serial collaborator (and, whisper it, serial disappointer since leaving The Smiths), Johnny Marr, onboard to add a touch of jangly Mancunian magic to the Issaquah band, the rough edges of MM's earlier indie racket have been smoothed to a chart-friendly sheen. This often involves the current trend of cramming in as much as possible; brass sections, accordions, massed backing vocals etc. But this rodent wins over the rest of the ratpack by dint of vertiginous arrangements and an irrepressible bounce.

There are still issues surrounding Isaac Brock's voice. His adopted shout/squeal/growl/rant is an acquired taste that is often at odds with the lush surroundings, but the amusingly wry lyrics and plainly hummable tunes mean that We Were!should yield at least a couple of chart-worrying singles. First single, ''Dashboard'', is a fine example of this. All Talking Heads stuttering guitars, over-excited vocals and yet still with an eye towards the more avant garde end of contemporary math-rock. Even bringing to mind current cutting edge darlings, Battles.

James Mercer of the Shins, another band to push maverick tendencies back towards the mainstream, turns up top harmonise on three tracks; notably the edgy and witty 'We've Got Everything' which even manages to sound like 80s-period Yes in places. Again it's a remarkable balancing act that manages to simultaneously take chances while daring you to sing along.

It's a breathtakingly audacious ruse, and works on about 70 percent of this glittering, slightly surreal album. Perhaps it's all too much for one sitting, but at this rate we'll all be buying the greatest hits album in another ten years. This is the Mouse that roars! --Jerome Blakeney

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27 of 30 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars They've got everything! 26 Mar 2007
Format:Audio CD
I must admit that throwing this album on for the first time was a bit of a nerve-wrecking experience as I have absolutely fallen in love with their back catalog and didn't want to be dissapointed.

Thankfully the first track is brilliant and catchy enough that all my fears were immediately eased. I did find myself listening out for which parts of the album were Marr's or Mercer's being a Smiths and Shins fan as well. However with the second listen it all came together perfectly.

The stand out tracks for me are Dashboard (single material), We've Got Everything (lyrically brilliant) and the insanely catchy Shins-esque Missed the Boat. Yet, like all Modest Mouse albums it can only be truly appreciated when listened to from start to finish. No other band around hold your attention quite like Isaac Brock and the boys.

The rapid changes of pace from crazed pop perfection to sleepy meandering riffage all held together with bizarrely enthralling lyrics can only be truly appreciated after multiple listens. I have only had this album two days and listened to it 4 times and I can quite confidently assert that if you were a fan before you'll have 14 more resons to love them afterwards.

If you've never listened to them, this is a great introduction to one of the best, most inventive bands around at the moment. A word of warning though if you fall in love with Modest Mouse then you better have some money in the old bank account because you won't be able to resist their other, equally brilliant albums.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Its never too late 26 July 2007
Format:Audio CD
This was my first Modest Mouse CD, I have to say being a fan of Pavement and the Minutemen that this became instantly accesible. There are a few immediate stand out tracks but the more you listen to it the more it grows on you. I would recommend this highly. I have now gone into their back catalogue and purchased Good News for People Who Love Bad News and have to say I wonder why I never bought any of it earlier!
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5.0 out of 5 stars Another more than solid album 21 Mar 2007
By Mr. J. Milton VINE™ VOICE
Format:Audio CD
It's time to freak out.

In the privacy of your own home, on the bus surrounded by several OAPs, in the build up to the gig where the DJ finally plays a song you like, whatever situation, most of the material on this record, Modest Mouse's sixth, will make your mind explode due to high pressure, make your limbs looser, give you the confidence to go a bit wild.

80% of this is true.

Because chances are, after several listens, as the album gradually grows on you, you'll be shouting at a rapid pace the words "Somehow you will die someday and someone's gonna steal your carbon!" during one of the final tracks on this record, 'Parting Of The Sensory'. It's one of the stronger moments on this rock solid album, one that will disappoint some possibly, but if you're a newcomer to this band, or simply someone with an open mind, this album could take over your life in a matter of a week. And those lyrics that you'll be singing are immensely powerful, meant to be sung in groups of fifty. But if that doesn't happen and someone tells you to turn the sound down, simply state: "Sorry, it's just an impulse". Because chances are, this album will control your body in ways that not many others can. It could change your mood in a matter of 1 song, to a sinister yet joyous one, or maybe it might just turn you into a maniac.

It's the vocals of Isaac Brock that do it, his furious stance on the modern day comes across and gets in your head like you have a mind of a toddler, learning everything you see and hear instantly. It's his raging confidence that makes this album stand out from the pack of American alternative albums, along with the magnificent backbone of the band overall, including that of Johnny Marr, whose presence doesn't quite stand out in this record as it did in previous records, but his genius is still obviously a contribution.

Single "Dashboard" is an example of a moment on the album which could either make a jubilant impression or one that will be ignored forever, a track that could be skipped straight away by those many fans who haven't taken to the sound of it very well so far, but those that believe that it's an instantaneous catchy affair will be taken under the rest of the record's wing at ease, because "Dashboard" may be a bit too commercial, a bit too unlike Wolf Parade, but it's still got the spirit of a thousand enthusiastic musicians giving it their all. However whatever your impression on some of the material on this record, there will be one song which you cannot ignore, simply cannot let pass by. "Spitting Venom". An 8 and a half minute epic which energizes your mind more and more as it increases in animation audacity. "Hold on to what you need/We've got a knack for messed up history" are more powerful words than they could possibly be in any other situation, on any other record, sung by any other vocalist. It is quite possibly as close to perfection as you can reach with music in 2007, the best thing I've heard so far this year? Quite possibly. As they personify this "ship" that is sinking, chances are, you will fall in love.

And there's more to find in this record that seems like it lasts an eternity. It may be an eternity, but it's an eternity of emotional joy for the listener. Despite moments of defying bonkers music, there are times where you can sit back and shed a tear. "Little Motel" is a five minute apology to a loved one, and as the guitars a prominent, they are the feature of the song that will get you weepy. "Missed The Boat" is another one that could get you holding your tears back, a highlight of the record, The Shins' lead singer James Mercer adds in some backing vocals to add to the already unstoppable spirit of the record, and then the final note of " Oh, what useless tools ourselves" fades away, you can safely reassure yourself that this band are somewhat genius' of their time, their records grow on your more and more, lots of records do these days, but there is something special about this record. Something that you probably won't find in any other record this year or the next. The odd moment of perfection.

Wrap it up and keep it warm.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Masterpiece
This album is epic. I didn't know Modest Mouse before this one, and I had to check their work after buying this record. Read more
Published 9 months ago by Agnello Francesco
5.0 out of 5 stars Incredible album
I joined the Modest Mouse party late, and probably have the benefit of this being my first Modest Mouse album. Read more
Published 10 months ago by Steven Brown
5.0 out of 5 stars Modest Mouse has got everything
An incredible album by Modest Mouse, especially love the cd cover! Great energy, my favourite tracks are "Florida", "We've got everything" and "Education". Read more
Published on 27 Mar 2011 by Linnea
5.0 out of 5 stars Fantastic
I stumbled upon Modest Mouse after playing guitar hero, and straight away loved them! I bought a few albums, but this is my favourite. Read more
Published on 7 Sep 2010 by Charlotte
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excellent music - different to anything else and very catchy but also profound - try it, whatever age you are and whatever your musical leanings you're bound to like some, if not... Read more
Published on 6 July 2009 by Helen Lynch
5.0 out of 5 stars Love it!
Originally I was looking to buy a different Modest Mouse album, "Good News for people who love bad news" because I had heard the song "float on" and loved it. Read more
Published on 13 Mar 2009 by C. J. Sandiford
4.0 out of 5 stars From Discordance to Delight
The only reason I bought this album was that I heard this was Johnny Marr's new band (and they were an act that I missed while at a music festival in Australia). Read more
Published on 17 Oct 2007 by Richard A
4.0 out of 5 stars A more accessible MM album
The phrase "it's a grower" sprung to mind when I first heard "Good News For People Who Like Bad News". Read more
Published on 8 Oct 2007 by L. Pearson
4.0 out of 5 stars Sinking to the other side
With their last album, Modest Mouse came closer to the mainstream than ever before. They had an MTV video, for crying out loud.

Apparently that rankled the band. Read more
Published on 29 Aug 2007 by E. A Solinas
5.0 out of 5 stars a well peiced together album
First off the reason i'm giving this 5 star is the fact that i'm a huge fan of all their other albums and in comparison this latest title for me is not as great as lonesome crowded... Read more
Published on 1 Aug 2007 by R. O'loghlen
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