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Wagner: Der Fliegende Hollander Original recording remastered, Box set

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  • Conductor: Georg Solti
  • Composer: Richard Wagner
  • Audio CD (12 Mar 2013)
  • SPARS Code: ADD
  • Number of Discs: 2
  • Format: Original recording remastered, Box set
  • Label: Decca (UMO)
  • ASIN: B00006469S
  • Other Editions: MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 32,791 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful By Ian E. on 11 Mar 2012
Format: Audio CD Verified Purchase
When I started, many years ago, to become interested in Wagner the Solti recording of Flying Dutchman was the first complete opera that I bought. And, although I have since heard other interpretations, this is the one I come back to. In my opinion, and despite the undoubted merits of Solti's other Wagner recordings, no other Wagner opera is so suited to Sir Georg's style. This is a powerful, passionate performance of a powerful, passionate opera which, although it already has one foot in the future, still has enough in common with more traditional opera to make a good place to start for anyone wanting to get to know Wagner better.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful By John Stone on 19 Mar 2013
Format: Audio CD
For some reason this recording was panned at the time of issue and it is hard to understand why. There's a kind of headlong energy about it which the score really requires - these early Wagner works have great technical limitations but Solti continuously draws out the melodic interest, is always exciting, always manages to support the singers in their savagely taxing, often awkward parts. By way of comparison I have just been listening to Konwitschny's recording with its remarkable cast but it seems meandering and inconsequential in comparison (also the choral singing is completely dreadful - which matters). If Solti is hectic there is method in it: if he let go a bit more it wouldn't have been anything like as good. Nor, do I know why people have complained about the singers. Norman Bailey might not be the most charismatic voice ever but I don't know anyone who has captured the particular melancholy of this character better, Talvela sings Daland as if part of his being, Janis Martin sings with greater brilliance and accuracy than any Wagnerian soprano I have ever heard - why was she not more famous and a darling of recording companies? Krenn and Kollo are strong casting as the Steuermann and as Eric.
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as others have indicated this version is surprisingly underrated, and I simply don't understand the penguin guide giving it three stars with the final one qualified...largely because they feel that the sound is not sufficiently atmospheric. By atmospheric the guide contrast this with the sonic stage effects in the famous Solti ring cycle and although I can see where they are coming from in one sense, this is an amazing disc which I have in its original cd release and no apologies need be made for the vividly projected sound. The sound and passion in Solti's thrilling reading make this dramatic reading really outstanding. The leads, chorus and orchestra are all superb and Solti directs with intensity and imagination. This truly is an amazing performance that comes across at white heat and I merely add my voice in support of the other favourable comments. If I were a penguin reviewer I would be awarding it full three stars and one of their rosettes to boot!
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8 of 14 people found the following review helpful By Mr. K. P. Rogers VINE VOICE on 10 Aug 2006
Format: Audio CD
When I first listened to this recording I couldn't believe that I had got to the end of the CD, as the time went so quickly. This is a tribute to Wagner's music, which never lets up. It is also a tribute to Solti and his Chicago Symphony Orchestra, whose playing is brilliant.

The overture immediately grabs you, and then (where appropriate!) it's a stormy ride through the rest of the opera.

Other musical highlights are the Girls song, where they spin their wool (Act II), and the song of the shipmen and helmsman (wonderful Werner Krenn) at the beginning of Act III.

The accompnaying notes are excellent and include the full libretto.
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11 of 11 people found the following review helpful
Very good introduction to Wagner's first "big" opera 13 Jan 2007
By Autonome - Published on
Format: Audio CD
I am quite surprised by the fact that this set never got more reviews than it did on Amazon: the only one applies to the non-remastered version of the performance. I remember learning my Wagner with this performance a good twenty years ago now and I was quite worried about purchasing the set again with "the new sound" and do a trip back down memory most cases, one is disappointed by the results but hopefully not here. The second the Chicago Symphony Orchestra starts with the opening chords of the piece, you are caught in the eye of the storm: the tempest, the fear, the waves jumping at your speakers, it's all in there. The dynamics are ENORMOUS, Solti relishes in letting the sound of this beautiful orchestra spread in all the sound space. Overall the fantastic orchestral display I remembered from my youth was here ...and more, thanks to a remastering of the original tapes making the performance even clearer than it was. But Fliegende is not all about being loud. Solti has a very good sense of contrasts and can let its orchestra breathe: listen to the clarinets in the Eric-Senta duet in Act II: simply beautiful.

Was the cast up to the really good memories of my youth? Well yes and no!

Norman Bailey, brilliant British heldenbass, is not at ease as the Hollander here. His initial monologue is buried under Solti's thankless orchestra, his German is not well articulated and his high notes clearly come from the throat...His duet with Senta in Act II is nonetheless very good and his portrayal remains acceptable. Talvela is very lazy in this recording and the Finnish bass simply turns up with his marvellous voice without trying anything. His sound remains sumptuous though!

The rest of the cast is really good: Rene Kollo portrays a youthful, noble Erik, Janis Martin is simply put an amazing Senta. She inhabits the part with her beautiful, crystal-clear voice and her portrayal of Senta is still, twenty years after and a lot of Wagner down the road, one of the best I have heard. Krenn is an elegant Mozartian pilot and Isola Jones does the job as Mary, no more no less. The Chicago Symphony Chorus is a bit stale though and doesn't really hold its rank opposite such a demonic orchestra. Regardless of these minor flaws, this Fliegende represents a perfect introduction to the piece thanks to its Senta, Sir Georg and his fabulous orchestra. Recommended.
6 of 7 people found the following review helpful
Remastering has liberated exceptional voices in exceptional interpretations! 15 July 2009
By Mr. DAVID Geer - Published on
Format: Audio CD
Like one of the other reviewers I am surprised this remastering has not received more reviews and comment on Amazon. I have given it 5 stars but perhaps 9.5 out of 10 would be a better guide figure. The loss of half a mark is due in part to the casting which is near perfect and quite beyond that I've ever heard live anywhere!

For some reason, and I am not sure exactly why, Solti is often thought of as heavy handed but it might well have been the Decca FFR on records through my inadequate hi-fi that made it that way back in the days when his recordings were first made. (I still think he might be heavy handed in Gotterdammerung but not the first 3 parts of his famous ring). However there is no way he is here, he impresses with the rightness of his tempo, his ability to make this orchestra sound world class with enhanced brass (better than most opera houses could ever hope for) and a wonderful feeling for the lyric aspects of this great but slightly flawed work.

Norman Bailey is not everyones idea of a great baritone it seems, but here he is probably at his vocal best ever. He brings a lyric sound to the Dutchman's monologue that simply escapes others and it comes as no surprise to us, the listeners, that he asks Daland for his daughters hand in marriage, only Daland is surprised we have heard it in his voice and interpretation...

Now the weakest link, is really Wagner's view of Senta and how he could have written this part for an 18 year old is well, typically Wagner but he must have heard voices capable of performing this work we have Janis Martin. Well she is almost perfect but singing like this is I suspect not sustainable in the long term so its a treasured interpretation indeed. Perfect pitch, clean almost non-existent vibrato and a truly chilling finish.

Supporting cast is also noteworthy, I particularity liked the steersman high heldentenor voice with overly prefect German which does show up some of the less clear diction from the others. Rene Kollo in youthful excellent voice and a nurse fitted to the part. Perhaps the least perfect is the womens chorus but they are meant to be at rest and therefore unlike the wound up sailors are suitably relaxed in sound...

No this is an excellent recording with fabulous playing singing and sound and certainly will have a place in my collection alongside the Naxos live where there is a less than perfect Senta (vibrato into tomorrow) but equally involving in its way. So choose this for studio style recording and Naxos for live and you have cross section that shows how complex this work is.
8 of 10 people found the following review helpful
An also-ran from Solti, but in stunning sound 27 April 2007
By Santa Fe Listener - Published on
Format: Audio CD
Given Decca's wide-ranging sound, the CSO's supreme viruosity on aggressive display, an unbelievably precise chorus, and Solti's razor-edge phrasing, there are thrills to be had here. You can't really have a successful Flying Dutchman without two outstanding leads, and unfortunately Nomran Bailey and Janis Martin fall considerably short of that. Bailey has the right voice but approaches the role of the tormented Dutchman with dignity and reticence. Martin is simply inadequate technically. Despite the lovely timbre of her voice, she's cautious and her top notes expose considerable unsteadiness. In addition, there's a certain clinical coldness about the whole proceedings. You don't believe for a moment that you are in the oepra house, and een the chorus sounds as if they are reading form the score. Oh well, this recording is definitely one of Solti's alo-rans.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
Der Fliegende Hungarian 28 Jun 2010
By Nate Charlton - Published on
Format: Audio CD
While not up to par with Solti's earlier Wagner works (except for his Vienna "Meistersinger") this still is a very good turn out.

The orchestral work is sublime, with unbelievable clarity and perfectly paced tempi. Solti does seem to have taken a step back at this point compared to his other works, but the force he drives the Chicago Symphony Orchestra with is amazing. Without a doubt this is the highest part of the recording, especially considering that I generally do not care much for CSO ("Fantasia 2000" and the fact that VPO is my favorite orchestra overall). The recording is worth buying simply for that and the great new 2002 remaster (you'll swear it's a digital recording). Bailey may not be the best Dutchman, but considering that many of the great Wagnerian basses by this time retired or had vocal paralysis (poor George) he was one of the few choices available at the time and place, especially considering that it would be easier for the big stars to work in European studios rather than the U.S. Plus, Bailey does a fine job with the role playing him with dignity which actually is somewhat of a better interpretation rather than a pure brut (which London was the master of from listening to his recordings, especially Wotan). Martin is not the best Senta, but does a fine overall job and is far from innapropriate. Talvela is a bit past his prime in my opinion, especially considering he worked with Wieland Wagner at Bayreuth in the early 60's, which somewhat explains his hampered performance, but if Hotter could do the Decca Ring, he should be a bit better. Several people seem to naturally dislike Kollo, even on the uber-fantastic recordings he's in. I have to admit, the instant I heard his Tannhäuser, Windgassen and Domingo (my favorite heldentenors. Yes Domingo IS a GREAT heldentenor despite his accent) went out the window and having heard a few other of his recordings, he is a true Meistersinger. His Erik is pretty darn good, but considering how small the part is, and technically the villain, without the great emphasis on beauty Wagner would later use, the role itself is almost beneath the great Wagnerian tenors.

The opera itself is beyond reproach, perfectly mixing Italian and Wagnerian styles ("Meistersinger" is grand opera more than Italian) with arias and constant music with poetic sung dialogue. Although I have yet to hear "Rienzi", from all that I understand, Wagner wrote this to simply create a work he felt would be uniquely his own style, sort of as the anti-Rienzi. The themes of love, renewal, and tragic death of the heroine by her own devices are promenant fixtures here, but not played out as much as the other mature works in the cannon, but the score itself is truely Wagnerian and a great introduction into his work, and considering the maturity of it on its own it is an experience not to pass up.
1 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Fantastic, underrated Dutchman.......................... 5 Sep 2013
By Peter M. Rossetti - Published on
Format: Audio CD Verified Purchase
This recording deserves much more attention than it gets.
The new remastering here has made the sound of this recording incredible.
The dynamics and detail are amazing.
The cast is outstanding. A rich powerful voiced Dutchman and a passionate Senta.
The rest of the cast is just as good.
And this is revised version where Wagner added on the redemption music at the end. A MUST in my opinion.
And there's no more exiting ending out there than this recordings'.
I've heard several studio recordings of this opera and this remains my favorite.
It comes beautifully boxed with nice booklet and full libretto.
Get it!!!!
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