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Vogler: Symphonies [CD]

Matthias Bamert Audio CD
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  • Conductor: Bambert
  • Composer: Vogler
  • Audio CD (30 Mar 2009)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: CD
  • Label: Chandos
  • ASIN: B001U4XZTI
  • Other Editions: MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 295,426 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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Song TitleArtist Time Price
Listen  1. Symphony in D Minor, "Pariser": I. Allegro moltoThe London Mozart Players 7:29£0.59  Buy MP3 
Listen  2. Symphony in D Minor, "Pariser": II. AndanteThe London Mozart Players 4:29£0.59  Buy MP3 
Listen  3. Symphony in D Minor, "Pariser": III. AllegroThe London Mozart Players 7:17£0.59  Buy MP3 
Listen  4. Ballet Suite No. 1: I. Overture: AllegroThe London Mozart Players 1:58£0.59  Buy MP3 
Listen  5. Ballet Suite No. 1: II. AndantinoThe London Mozart Players 2:27£0.59  Buy MP3 
Listen  6. Ballet Suite No. 1: III. LarghettoThe London Mozart Players 2:26£0.59  Buy MP3 
Listen  7. Ballet Suite No. 1: IV. AllegrettoThe London Mozart Players 3:08£0.59  Buy MP3 
Listen  8. Symphony in G MajorThe London Mozart Players 9:01Album Only
Listen  9. Athalie: OvertureThe London Mozart Players 3:20£0.59  Buy MP3 
Listen10. Hamlet: Hamlet: OvertureThe London Mozart Players10:50Album Only
Listen11. Ballet Suite No. 2: I. GigueThe London Mozart Players 2:44£0.59  Buy MP3 
Listen12. Ballet Suite No. 2: II. Aire de chasseThe London Mozart Players 2:27£0.59  Buy MP3 
Listen13. Ballet Suite No. 2: III. Menuetto graziosoThe London Mozart Players 4:16£0.59  Buy MP3 
Listen14. Erwin und Elmire: OvertureThe London Mozart Players 5:24£0.59  Buy MP3 


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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
By Owl
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One is immediately impressed by the clarity and concision of this music, its freshness and vitality. In fact it comes across as something of a revelation, especially when considered in relation to Vogler's main historical claim to fame--as the teacher of Weber and Meyerbeer, who as young men lived together under his roof in Darmstadt and learned so much of their skills from him. Vogler's powerful influence on both manifests itself in even the few short pieces presented so effectively and lovingly in this excellent recording. The busy rushing strings of Vogler's little Symphony in G point so tellingly to Weber's characteristic use of the violins in both the overtures to 'Der Freischütz' and 'Oberon', while the overture to Vogler's 'Athalie' is clearly the direct inspiration for Weber's 'Beherrscher der Geister'. The punctuating dotted chords and striking deployment of high and low woodwind in unison, with prominent use of the bassoon carrying the melody in the Ballet Suite No. 1, provide other characteristics that would become features of Meyerbeer's musical vocabulary. So in terms of both sheer musical enjoyment, the unusual and striking ideas, and as an important piece of historical documentation, this marvellous recording is to be applauded. It is a most appropriate celebration of a nearly forgotten but highly influential musician, an outstanding contribution by the London Mozart Players, and a tribute to the inspirational Matthias Bamert.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Why Vogler? 27 April 2009
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I've eagerly snapped up every release in this magnificent series since it started back in 1994 with symphonies by Michael Haydn and Carl Stamitz. The performances are, to my mind, sublime: rich, burnished strings, pungent brasses, a full, resonant acoustic, and stylish but unobtrusive direction. With so many 18th-century composers of symphonies who influenced or were influenced by Mozart, why choose the wretched Vogler? If nothing else, hearing his music proves how accurate Mozart was in his devastating - and quite amusing - criticism of it.

I'd love to know the composers of upcoming entries in the series. Messers Bamert, Juritz, et al., if you're reading (dare one hope?), may I recommend:

Johann Stamitz, the true founder of the Mannheim School, and the greatest writer of symphonies in the 1740s and 50s.

Georg Christophe Wagenseil, the most widely-disseminated Viennese composer of symphonies in the 1750s and 60s and a crucial stylistic influence on Haydn and Mozart.

G. B. Sammartini, whom young Mozart met in Milan and who was the inspiration for Mozart's first string quartet, K. 80. Sammartini also happened to be the greatest writer of concert symphonies in the 1730s and 40s, and was still active into the 70s.

Carlo d'Ordonez, Carl Ditters von Dittersdorf, Florian Gassman, and Leopold Hoffman, all highly accomplished Vienna-based (mostly) composers of symphonies during Mozart's time.

I absolutely love this series; please don't waste precious resources on incompetent hacks like Vogler (Herschel was another questionable choice)!
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5.0 out of 5 stars Rediscovering a refreshing and influential composer 22 Oct 2009
By Owl - Published on Amazon.com
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One is immediately impressed by the clarity and concision of this music, its freshness and vitality. In fact it comes across as something of a revelation, especially when considered in relation to Vogler's main historical claim to fame--as the teacher of Weber and Meyerbeer, who as young men lived together under his roof in Darmstadt and learned so much of their skills from him. Vogler's powerful influence on both manifests itself in even the few short pieces presented so effectively and lovingly in this excellent recording. The busy rushing strings of Vogler's little Symphony in G point so tellingly to Weber's characteristic use of the violins in both the overtures to 'Der Freischütz' and 'Oberon', while the overture to Vogler's 'Athalie' is clearly the direct inspiration for Weber's 'Beherrscher der Geister'. The punctuating dotted chords and striking deployment of high and low woodwind in unison, with prominent use of the bassoon carrying the melody in the Ballet Suite No. 1, provide other characteristics that would become features of Meyerbeer's musical vocabulary. So in terms of both sheer musical enjoyment, full of unusual and striking ideas, and as an important piece of historical documentation, this marvellous recording is to be applauded. It is a most appropriate celebration of 30 years of outstanding musical contribution by the London Mozart Players, and a tribute to the inspirational Matthias Bamert.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A Marvellous Discovery. 14 Jan 2013
By John - Published on Amazon.com
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The transition from the Baroque to the Classical is one of the most important and fascinating events in the history of music. Joseph Haydn and Amadeus Mozart dominated the scene to the extent that their contemporaries' music is almost never played at concert level, and only recently recorded at length by Chandos. There are some thirty composers who have been rediscovered, and whose works are brilliantly played by the London Mozart Players conducted by Matthias Bamert.
Vogler studied to become a Chaplain and gained employment at the Mannheim, wher he knew the 21 year old Mozart. Mozart had a low opinion of him, calling him dreary,and terrible for belittling J.C.Bach. He also scrambled through Mozart's Piano Concerto C. K246 on sight reading,leaving the young genius most unimpressed.
Despite this, Vogler persisted and his students included Weber and Meyerbeer, for which he took no payment. He wrote operas, church music, symphonies, concertos and sonatas. The Symphony in D minor is largely serious, and in the first movement one can detect phrases in bare octaves that appear later in both Mozart's and Beethoven's C minor piano concertos. So Mozart was prepared to be inluenced by the man he criticized!
The Symphony in G is much lighter in mood and has an Andante beautifully played by the strings alone.
Voglers Ballet Suites are quite cheeky , with lively rhythms giving way to some exquisite brass and woodwind parts, the piece ending with lone strings in the trio section of the Menuetto grazioso.
Orchestral balance and sound are both excellent. This is a superb CD.
5.0 out of 5 stars Highly Enjoyable Listen 4 Jun 2013
By J.C. Clark - Published on Amazon.com
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Everything Hurwitz wrote is true. Very glad I bought this CD. Have been listening to it over and over again. The opening symphony is especially enjoyable; fabulously dramatic intensity and some gorgeous melodies. The first Ballet Suite and the Hamlet Overture are also highlights, although everything is worthwhile. One is left wondering why Vogler is not better-known. He is now one of my favorite composers.

I have six other CDs in this Contemporaries of Mozart series (Krommer, Stamitz, Kozeluch, Pleyel, Wranitzky, Marsh) and this is the best one so far. This music has a great deal of personality and exuberance to it. I think it helps that a mixture of symphonies, ballet suites and overtures is presented here to create a more diverse harmonic landscape.
5.0 out of 5 stars Vogler: Symphonies; Overtures: Ballets 29 May 2013
By Daisy Mae - Published on Amazon.com
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Really enjoy having this since my maiden name is Vogler, and we have researched our background back to Germany and Switzerland.....and can pretend that Georg is my ancestor! I love classical music....which I think, feeds the soul
5 of 10 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Outstanding Individual 1 July 2009
By Kenneth Gilman - Published on Amazon.com
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Vogler was an outstanding man, world traveler (not an easy thing in the 18th century), teacher (of Carl Maria von Weber & Meyerbeer among others), music theorist, world famous in his day, disliked by Mozart (not always a bad thing), etc. A full length biography would make a fascinating read. His music, however, is only so so. I'll keep this cd and will listen occasionally, but more for who the man was than for the quality of the music.
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