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  • Hardcover: 544 pages
  • Publisher: Simon Pulse (1 Nov. 2014)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1416991786
  • ISBN-13: 978-1416991786
  • Product Dimensions: 14 x 3.8 x 21 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 2.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)
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The quality of the story (and unfortunately, the story-telling) deteriorates in this 3rd part of the series...
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didn't enjoy the book - didn't flow for me and I found the time jumping paradoxes irritating
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This book, the third and final part, was not worth reading. Full of long, boring descriptions, disguised as conversations, of vain attempts to try and justify the complexities of time travel, there was virtually no plot and no excitement, and the characters were self-congratulatory and boring. The first part was very good - so what happened? The second was worse, but I persevered and stupidly bought this one. I would not recommend anyone to start reading this trilogy. I have enjoyed this author's previous works, especially the Ender series - perhaps his imagination has now been exhausted, and he should give up writing and start resting on his laurels.
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31 of 32 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x993a89fc) out of 5 stars Finish if you must, but not as fun as first two 6 Nov. 2014
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I really enjoyed the first two Pathfinder books. Great story, great characters. But the third installment was just too much. Too many characters (including duplicates!), too many storylines, too many planets. It was like cramming 19 Back to the Future storylines in one book. There were so many timelines going on, it felt like the one that was chosen was almost arbitrary. I plowed through to the end, but overall, I was disappointed. Card is a great storyteller, and I am a huge fan of most of his stories, but not this one. It was just too hard to care about the million different story lines and characters.
14 of 15 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x99d3dbe8) out of 5 stars You Know You're Going to Finish the Trilogy Anyway 19 Nov. 2014
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I gave this book an extra star for the level of thought Card put in to create a modicum of consistency in a story with this much time travel. I agree with others that it isn't his best work. In a way, it reminded me of "Children of the Mind" (the final book in the story line of the Ender's Game series). Like that book, it's heady to read (both good and bad), and it deals with theories and ideas that are difficult to ponder. Card makes those ideas accessible. Also like "Children of the Mind", this book seeks to bring resolution to a plot/universe that has grown almost too large to bring closure. Unlike the other book though, this one did most of the excess inflation during the final novel.

One of the major challenges in making the book accessible is the tremendous power some of the main characters gain. By the end of the novel, some can mold planets to their image on a whim. Perhaps their tremendous power is why Card leaves some plot lines seemingly incomplete. Most pressingly, the transition of power in the midst of an uprising never finds complete closure. Nevertheless, there is no doubt at the end of this third book that the main characters can wrap everything up without issue.

As some other reviewers pointed out, the plot does seem to go on unnecessary tangents with side stories and discussions. I can only guess what Card's motives might have been, but I feel fairly sure one of his major goals in this novel was to explore how the possibilities of time travel would affect reality, causality, and exploration. If you enjoy pondering these things, then you may find yourself enthralled. If you're looking to finish up the trilogy, it is worth your time.
9 of 9 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x998efc90) out of 5 stars The first Card dud? 15 Nov. 2014
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I am sorry to say that I finally found an Orson Scott Card Book I didn't enjoy. The first book of this series was great, and the second was nearly as good, but this third...failed. Card gets lost in the possibilities of time travel and for the first time (I have seen) gets shallow with his characters. Things just happen for no real reason, and without developing the plot established in the first two books. The characters stop maturing and just kind of do things. Things happen, but without any explanation of why the characters would do this. Subplots emerge, and then are dropped. This seems like he intended to write two or three more books but then condensed them into one hollow book. That may have been a good decision, because the direction this book goes in is just dull, and seems like Card was grasping at a plot twist that didn't fit. I am glad that it mercifully ends here. I can only hope that Card regains his talent in other series.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9970f8ac) out of 5 stars Does the ending contradict the premise? 3 Feb. 2015
By Tom Hasara - Published on
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I need help understanding the ending, so yes, there are spoilers.

First, I'll say I love everything OSC writes! His stories, themes, and political-religious-scientific ideas are compelling, and the Pathfinder series is in many ways a Opus Magnus compilation of all the various themes and ideas of his other works. (Plus I love time-travel). Of course he falls into his usual bad habit over explaining the "science" of something he just made up (do we need to know how a snarful interacts with a grundfel at the sub-sub atomic level?) but I'm
Used to that.

So of course my question is related to the pseudo-scientific explanation he gives for temporal paradoxes, namely how the agents of causal change are unaffected by whatever change they make in a time stream. But whoever is NOT the agent of change (or traveling with that person) will experience a completely different time stream and will have no recollection of any change being made. I am ok with that, it is a common enough theory of time travel fiction and non-fiction.

What confuses me is the ending of Visitors - did Card just throw his on rule, the one he went on and on about, right out the window so he could wrap this up? I mean the very reason Rigg, Param, and Umbo were created was to stop the Destroyers (according to the mice). Back up, the very reason the Future Books, and thus mice, were created was to stop the Destroyers. Well guess what!? - Backward time flow Ram and Irradiated Noxon succeeded in stoping the Destroyers before they ever attacked!! So, yes those 2 and the rest of the group at Treble and Bass planets would remember it the way we read it, because they were the agents if change. But EVERY other character would have no idea. Even if we assume that our heroes (and the mice) were still created despite the fact that the Destroyers NEVER attacked (seems unlikely, but ok) they certainly would not be sitting around and talking about how their plan worked to stop the Destroyers!

Sorry, but am I missing something here, or is that the sloppiest ending he has ever written?

No really- someone please help me out here.
12 of 14 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9969827c) out of 5 stars Ugh. Not a good way to wrap up this series. 13 Nov. 2014
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The beginning and end of this book are ok. Catching up with our band of time shifters and saving the planet is classic OSC. The middle of this book is drawn out so much it should be called, "OSC wants to prove how smart he is with the Children's Time Travel Debating Society". Chapters and chapters of ridiculous debate while the true action is summarized in short paragraphs. The talking mice really put this series over the top but having Rigg repeat everything that the mice say means OSC was paid by the word to write this book.
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