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Some jobs are just too dirty for the Ultimates. For these, Nick Fury must gather the Avengers, a black-ops team willing to do the missions that others won't. What role will an infamous mass killer play in Fury's plans? Find out here, as the Punisher returns to the Ultimate Universe! The blockbuster team of MARK MILLAR (ULTIMATES) and LEINIL FRANCIS YU (SECRET INVASION) opresent this explosive story that can only be called CRIME AND PUNISHMENT. COLLECTING: Ultimate Avengers 2 #1-6
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Nick Fury continues recruiting for a new Avengers team, a black ops squad, as an opposite to the Ultimates to do the stuff that would sully their good image. Enter Tyrone Cash, a Hulk-type beast, who apparently taught Banner everything he knew (!) being enormous and hyper-intelligent, and Frank Castle the Punisher, who is "captured" by the new Avengers and suited up in a Punisher/Captain America crossover costume and urged to fight for them.
This new team is suddenly called into action when a series of strange murders start happening and the suspect is sighted - a leather clad biker with a flaming skull and a kickass bike. That's right, Ultimate Avengers 2 is new Avengers vs. Ghost Rider, with the Vice President's life at stake!
It's a pretty good read for the most part. I think some of the characterisation was a bit off for Cash and War Machine (underused here and made to seem completely ineffectual in combat) but on the plus side Millar gives Ghost Rider his balls back after such poor treatment in the movie version (thanks Nic Cage!) and the targets in the book are so unsympathetic that you're rooting for the Rider to bring justice every step of the way.
The story moves at a fast pace and I never found myself bored. The artwork is pretty awesome too, Leinil Francis Yu did some outstanding work and the set pieces look fantastic. Overall, a satisfying, fun read for an excellent ongoing series.
This new team is suddenly called into action when a series of strange murders start happening and the suspect is sighted - a leather clad biker with a flaming skull and a kickass bike. That's right, Ultimate Avengers 2 is new Avengers vs. Ghost Rider, with the Vice President's life at stake!
It's a pretty good read for the most part. I think some of the characterisation was a bit off for Cash and War Machine (underused here and made to seem completely ineffectual in combat) but on the plus side Millar gives Ghost Rider his balls back after such poor treatment in the movie version (thanks Nic Cage!) and the targets in the book are so unsympathetic that you're rooting for the Rider to bring justice every step of the way.
The story moves at a fast pace and I never found myself bored. The artwork is pretty awesome too, Leinil Francis Yu did some outstanding work and the set pieces look fantastic. Overall, a satisfying, fun read for an excellent ongoing series.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
Good for what it is, but just what on earth is it?
12 Jan 2011
Format:Hardcover
They really need to take the "Avengers" out of this title and replace it with "Thunderbolts", because that's what we're reading here. Once you get Captain America out of the way (he's a cameo in this volume), it becomes obvious that Millar really did want to write a Thunderbolts-style story about a bunch of neerdowells. The dynamic of this book makes a lot more sense once you put that together.
The primary cast are still as unlikable and uninspired as can be this time around. I don't want to read about any of these people, unless it's to read about how they were all dropped down an elevator shaft. Only Hawkeye, the last "real" Ultimate/Avenger left at this point, resembles a well-rounded human being in any way. The new addition, Cash, appears to have been stolen right out of the pages of "Youngblood", which, frankly, I'd almost rather be reading.
Why then am I giving this three stars? Well, good news: this story is not about the Ultimates/Avengers. Rather, that crew gets upstaged by the guest stars, the Punisher and Ghost Rider. Normally it's a bad thing when the side characters drive the principle cast out of the spotlight to this degree, but honestly, this time around, it's a serious treat.
The presence of the Punisher in this story is almost comforting. Sure, he's a homicidal maniac, and sure, he's about as sympathetic as shrapnel, but there's a pleasing consistency to it all; he's the same man we've seen for decades now, the same as in every incarnation. There's no jarring or horrifying inconsistencies to be found, like with Millar's Captain America (who traded in his shield and instead took refuge behind some kindergartners in the last volume. Yes, really). This brand of ruthless vigilantism, deplorable though it may be, seems somehow "cleaner" than that of the true scum who now inhabit the rest of this book.
Ghost Rider, surprisingly, is the only real hero we have here. While his story is noticeably reminiscent of "The Crow", it's a hoot and a half to read, and once he takes center stage, it becomes his book entirely. The only disappointment is that we can't keep reading about him once this volume is over. Come back Johnny Blaze, this series needs you! BADLY!
"Crime and Punishment" is a good read, but what to make of the series as a whole? What kind of future is there for these new Avengers/Ultimates/Thunderbolts/Youngbloods? Honestly, I'm just hoping that Thor comes back from the dead and ruins each and every one of them. In fact, if that happens, I'll give retroactive five-star scores to every previous issue. But not until then.
The primary cast are still as unlikable and uninspired as can be this time around. I don't want to read about any of these people, unless it's to read about how they were all dropped down an elevator shaft. Only Hawkeye, the last "real" Ultimate/Avenger left at this point, resembles a well-rounded human being in any way. The new addition, Cash, appears to have been stolen right out of the pages of "Youngblood", which, frankly, I'd almost rather be reading.
Why then am I giving this three stars? Well, good news: this story is not about the Ultimates/Avengers. Rather, that crew gets upstaged by the guest stars, the Punisher and Ghost Rider. Normally it's a bad thing when the side characters drive the principle cast out of the spotlight to this degree, but honestly, this time around, it's a serious treat.
The presence of the Punisher in this story is almost comforting. Sure, he's a homicidal maniac, and sure, he's about as sympathetic as shrapnel, but there's a pleasing consistency to it all; he's the same man we've seen for decades now, the same as in every incarnation. There's no jarring or horrifying inconsistencies to be found, like with Millar's Captain America (who traded in his shield and instead took refuge behind some kindergartners in the last volume. Yes, really). This brand of ruthless vigilantism, deplorable though it may be, seems somehow "cleaner" than that of the true scum who now inhabit the rest of this book.
Ghost Rider, surprisingly, is the only real hero we have here. While his story is noticeably reminiscent of "The Crow", it's a hoot and a half to read, and once he takes center stage, it becomes his book entirely. The only disappointment is that we can't keep reading about him once this volume is over. Come back Johnny Blaze, this series needs you! BADLY!
"Crime and Punishment" is a good read, but what to make of the series as a whole? What kind of future is there for these new Avengers/Ultimates/Thunderbolts/Youngbloods? Honestly, I'm just hoping that Thor comes back from the dead and ruins each and every one of them. In fact, if that happens, I'll give retroactive five-star scores to every previous issue. But not until then.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Fun Stuff !!
5 April 2011
Format:Hardcover
Millar and Yu are having some real fun with this one, and I enjoyed every minute of it! First off, if you didn't like v.1:Next Generation, you probably won't like this one either. Once again, the focus is on being an action/suspense/thriller that invokes the same feeling of going to a summer blockbuster movie and just plain getting lost in pure entertainment for entertainment's sake. The story is exciting, with good chatacter development and a mostly solid plot. As in the first volume, this book is heavy on the black-ops aspects. If you dig the Bourne movies, From Paris with Love, and other similar films, this book delivers the goods you're looking for. Millar takes you on a fast, slick joyride full of the kind of action/suspense he created in Next Generation. It has many dark and sinister elements to it. Even the "heroes" aren't your typical good guys. But that's what this new Ultimate Comics Avengers line is all about! It's not supposed to be The Avengers of the 616 Universe. And it's not The Ultimates either. There is a New Ultimates title that you can read if you're looking for that classic Thor, Iron Man and Captain America lineup. This team of Avengers is made up of killers. Period. They aren't "villains" but they do kill people for the government, and are therefore extremely different from your typical superhero team-up. I happen to enjoy reading the exploits of these hardcore assassins and the threats they face. I love The Ultimates, too. But this title gives me the kind of gritty violent stories i also enjoy reading sometimes. Now, the artwork is classic Yu. I've loved his stuff since Superman:Birthright, and his work here is just as satisfying. The coloring job is fantastic as well(much like Next Generation). His take on Ghost Rider is nothing short of brilliant! All in all, this book isn't groundbreaking, and probably won't change your life in some meaningful, philosophical way. But if you're looking for some cool, vitriolic entertainment, this book is fun stuff!! Taking it for what it is, I give it 4 1/2 stars.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Millar Certainly Tries Hard
13 Jan 2011
Format:Hardcover
I don't like how we're tangled up in this mess of characters. We're fighting to distinguish the 'Avengers' from the 'Black Ops' while allowing new characters to enter the fray. I'm losing track of who the hell all these people are, and why they derserved to be in the series. I would appreciate it if Millar took the time to develop the non-traditional avengers, and then kill them off leaving the original avengers. I'm not reading Ultimate Avengers hoping for an obscure line-up consisting of War Machine, a new wasp, a psychic spider-man, Nerd-Hulk, and so on. I want to either read an Avengers book, or the traditional Ultimates. Throwing in all these new characters is ruining the series and making a joke out of the name "Avengers." I agree with the reviewer who said this is Mark Millar's version of Thunderbolts, not Ultimates/Avengers.
But I have to give Mark credit for something. The Punisher storyline was by far some of the best writing I've seen him do. I was actually impressed for the first time since book 1 Ultimates. His Punisher story is better than all of his Millarworld scripts. The ending line in the volume is such a killer, I wanted to give him an applause from my quiet room. On top of that, Yu's illustrations are comparible to Olivier Coipel. They're friggin beautiful!! And if nothing else, this book succeeds as artwork.
Kill off some of these bogus characters and I'll be happy. My problem is that nearly all of the Avengers aren't Avengers. They're just psycho's that Nick Fury rounded up together. It would be amazing if Millar used this Ultimates dry spell, to bide his time thinking of a grand return for the real ultimates. I want to see Millar write what he's brilliant at, instead of making up characters to fill shoes, or worse, rehashing classic characters to waste space. I think its a general consensus with us fans, that we miss the old Ultimates that was ruined by Ultimatum. We feel like this series is just a scavenger hunt for characters when it shouldn't be. Correct me if anyone truly loves this series, but I think I speak for us all when I say that Bendis and Millar should aim for what their fans want, and respond to all the criticism in the Ultimate Comics line.
But I have to give Mark credit for something. The Punisher storyline was by far some of the best writing I've seen him do. I was actually impressed for the first time since book 1 Ultimates. His Punisher story is better than all of his Millarworld scripts. The ending line in the volume is such a killer, I wanted to give him an applause from my quiet room. On top of that, Yu's illustrations are comparible to Olivier Coipel. They're friggin beautiful!! And if nothing else, this book succeeds as artwork.
Kill off some of these bogus characters and I'll be happy. My problem is that nearly all of the Avengers aren't Avengers. They're just psycho's that Nick Fury rounded up together. It would be amazing if Millar used this Ultimates dry spell, to bide his time thinking of a grand return for the real ultimates. I want to see Millar write what he's brilliant at, instead of making up characters to fill shoes, or worse, rehashing classic characters to waste space. I think its a general consensus with us fans, that we miss the old Ultimates that was ruined by Ultimatum. We feel like this series is just a scavenger hunt for characters when it shouldn't be. Correct me if anyone truly loves this series, but I think I speak for us all when I say that Bendis and Millar should aim for what their fans want, and respond to all the criticism in the Ultimate Comics line.
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