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Treddin' On Thin Ice [CD]

Wiley Audio CD
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Richard Kylea Cowie (born 19 January 1979), better known by his stage name Wiley, is perhaps the most prolific British producer, rapper and recording artist to emerge in the last 15 years. He who was one of the original founders of the Roll Deep crew, and has made pioneering music in the fields of jungle, drum & bass and UK garage music. He is credited as the originator of the grime genre, ... Read more in Amazon's Wiley Store

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  • Audio CD (26 April 2004)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: CD
  • Label: XL
  • ASIN: B0001GCMEA
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (11 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 89,260 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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Listen  1. The Game 3:090.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  2. Pick U R Self Up feat. Breeze, J2K and Riko 4:010.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  3. Wot Do U Call It? 3:190.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  4. Eskimo (Interlude)0:550.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  5. Goin' Mad 3:380.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  6. Doorway 3:500.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  7. Special Girl feat. Kano 4:340.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  8. Avalanche (Interlude) 1:220.99  Buy MP3 
Listen  9. Reasons 4:080.99  Buy MP3 
Listen10. Got Somebody 3:590.99  Buy MP3 
Listen11. Pies 3:260.99  Buy MP3 
Listen12. Icerink (Interlude)0:340.99  Buy MP3 
Listen13. Next Level feat. J2K, Tinchy Stryder & Kano 3:210.99  Buy MP3 
Listen14. Treddin' On Thin Ice 3:140.99  Buy MP3 
Listen15. I Was Lost 3:240.99  Buy MP3 

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It's not often that teacher follows on the heels of pupil, but Treddin' on Thin Ice, the debut album from east London MC-producer Wiley will undoubtedly suffer from comparison with the award-scooping 2003 album by his young protégé, Dizzee Rascal. As the godfather of pioneering garage crew Roll Deep, Wiley is essentially the key architect of the stark MC-led strain of UK garage presently known as "grime", "sub-lo", or "Eski". His Treadin' on Thin Ice isn't quite the magnificent statement that Dizzee's Boy in da Corner was. Sure, Wiley is a good MC, but he seems to lack the all-consuming philosophy and breadth of narrative needed on a 15-track album.

Still, there's much to recommend here: the production is a triumph of expertly-applied minimalism, skeletal Playstation beats meshing neatly with retro synthesiser bass and warped oriental strings. Meanwhile, Wiley's natural propensity towards melancholy is neatly balanced by a handful of genuinely hilarious tracks that poke fun at himself, his peers and the scene: try the genre-defining "Wot Do U Call It?" ("Garage?/ Urban?/ Two-step?"), frisky money-making anthem "Pies", and "Goin' Mad"--a blend of conversational narrative and genuinely-affecting emotion, delivered in a broad Cockney geezer accent, that's reminiscent of the Streets. --Louis Pattison

BBC Review

You could spend a lot of time arguing about what sort of music this is, and on the track "Wot Do U Call It" Wiley does just that. But whether you call it grime, East End hip hop or (the artist's personal choice) eski-beat this is the genre's second defining album -the first being Dizzee Rascal's Mercury prize winning Boy In Da Corner.

Both Wiley and Dizzee are former members of London's Roll Deep Crew and you can hear the music comes from similar sources (computer games, electro, garage, the highs and lows of urban life). That said, Wiley's sounds and words are less abrasive, warmer and more inclusive. While the younger Dizzee wants to push you away, the 25 year old Wiley wants to draw you in to explain his madness and aspirations.

Some of the best tracks appear as inner dialogues,as if you've dropped into Wiley's head to hear him arguing with himself. "Pick Your Self Up" comes across like a motivational speech, our hero convincing himself that everything is going to be alright, no matter how bleak things seem. Another highpoint is "That's What I Need", an endless list of all the things he wants in a girl - all the time knowing no real person could fulfil such contradictory demands. There's a clarity to these words which can't help but engage the listener.

The soundtrack to these musings is as likely to appeal to fans of 'experimental' music as the hoody wearing youth. "Goin' Mad" and "Eskimo" sound like they're taken from some freaky old skool platform game, weird oompah music that is both addictive and unsettling. Tracks like"Doorway" have more in common with arty electronica than mainstream American rap.

And be warned, like the best sort of pop, this album is very catchy. After a couple of listens the music gets stuck in your head and keeps going round and round. Sure, as Wiley admits, 'He does go on bit' -but we can forgive him that, he's got a lot to say and he does it better than most. The most original, and most English, album I've heard all year. --Matt Harvey

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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Eski-beat 1 May 2004
Format:Audio CD
The first time I listened to this album the eskimo beats came in, totally original and interesting, which compliments the beautiful cold street lyrics that Wiley (and other members of Roll Deep) spit. All around great album, has the crazy beats equaling to the ones of Dizzee Rascals. A very different album, but I would only suggest buying it if you have an open mind for music. For most UK Street-life, and MC/garage lovers, this is a must buy. As I am making this a realistic review, I will make bad points as well as good, as the album isn't perfect (as near to it, as it is), it's a little dissapointing that Raskit (Dizzee Rascal) didn't make an appearance is and also a little suprising. And I think he could of easily had 20 tracks, (like interludes "Avalanche, Ice Rink" are actual beats that Raskit and Wiley have MC'ed over), and maybe some faster lyrics wouldn't hurt, as he is more than capable. A must buy for people rolling deeper.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Eski? Grime? Who cares what it's called! 24 April 2004
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A really fantatsic album which will easily weather the Dizzee Rascalcomparsions coming its way. Taking similar elements to Boy In Da Corner,this album outstrips that album completley in terms of the music. Anyonewith even a passing interest in modern music should get this albumstraight away in order to hear a true chapter in British music beingwritten. Wiley manages to combine the stabbing chords of acid house andSquarepusher/Autechre electronica with grubby breaks and gut shreddingbreaks. It is almost so cutting edge it's avant garde and surelyrepresents one of the most exciting scenes since early punk. His MCing ismore comparable with Mike Skinner than the fierce social commentary ofDizzee Rascal, but he holds his own well particularly on the brilliantGoin' Mad. I challenge you to hear this track and not get goose bumps. Hopefully Wiley's sound won't get entirely swallowed up by the mainstreamas often happens with true mavericks, but either way he has produced oneof the best debuts albums for years. Go get it!
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4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Its good but� 3 Oct 2004
Format:Audio CD
To be honest I'm somewhat let down with Wiley's album. After hearing him on 'Boy In Da Corner' and some freestyles, I found out that he was releasing an album, so based on that I bought it.
I do think he's a wicked MC but... there's something missing in this album. Most of the songs on the album are really good but even then, they aren't spectacular and get a bit repetitive. Judging from he's freestyles and Boy In Da Corner he's a much more 'capable' MC, he just doesn't seem to use it all that much on the album, which is really a shame considering that album could have been fantastic. I'm not hating here, I'm being honest, I think Wiley's a wicked MC... its just this album doesn't reflect it.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Classic record from the godfather of grime 6 Sep 2013
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Introspective lyrics that anyone can relate to laid over beats that are a hybrid of garage and the type of sounds you'd expect to hear bumping out of a Sega mega drive, all the while executed with Wiley's characteristic punchy flow . Well worth a purchase for anyone interested in the origins of grime or British music in general.
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4.0 out of 5 stars this is how the roll deep entourage duz things 27 April 2004
Format:Audio CD
just got wileys new album and i have to say it is wicked. its verydifferent to what i expected as it is far more hip/hop influenced than ithought it would be. his underground tracks (with the exception of 'igloo'which is incorporated into 'wat u call it') like icerink,eskimo andavalanche are confined to intros probably as the record label thought theywere too obscure for a commercial album.
they are some claqssic tracks on the album such as 'treddin on thin ice','goin mad', 'special girl', 'got somebody. its pretty different to dizzeerascals album as it is way more mellow and commercial which isntnecessarily a bad thing and its still very cutting edge compared toeverything else on the market.
this is a must buy for all urban fans and i suggest everyone gets it cozwiley, dizzee and roll deep are the future of uk black music so go out andsupport real talent instead of buying justin timberlake, 50 cent and otheramerican junk.
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3 of 5 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Nice bit a Garage 12 July 2004
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Nice album wileys made here, nothing amazing - just nice. When compared to be in da corner this album is average although they do sound very similar.
Some nice beats in 'doorways' and 'reasons' with some catchy lyrics but......
....the main problem with this album is that it lacks any decent guest apperances (wheres dizzee?)and therefore leaves wiley going the whole album solo. He's a wicked rapper and even manages some lyrical content, but just doesnt create ne thing stunnin. Im being a bit harsh basically because i expected more, because he haz made better tunes.
Buy it if ur a garage fan
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