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Torment & Toreros

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  • Audio CD (10 Nov. 1997)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Some Bizarre
  • ASIN: B0000080CC
  • Other Editions: Audio CD
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (10 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 433,735 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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Torment and Toreros is the second album to be released by Marc and the Mambas, the album reached #28 in the UK album charts in August 1983.[2] It also is the last album to go under the name "Marc and the Mambas".

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15 of 15 people found the following review helpful By brinson on 27 Jan. 2010
Format: Audio CD
A seminal moment for many a young tormented soul of the 80s. For anyone who is willing to give this time, it's just about the best bloody record ever. It's sheer beauty and majestic heights, it's raw honesty, integrity, drama, tenderness, its angers and sorrows, love and hatred - warts n all, will forever soundtrack your life. I mean, just listen to First Time about, yes, the 'first time' and feel the exquisite pains of lost youth and jaded love - the desperate desire to 'relive the very first time'. This album bleeds its heart and soul through the speakers - and if you listen to it all the way through can come out feeling like you've just been on an emotional rollercoaster. Black Heart and (my fave ever song) Torment stand out for sure - sublime moments. This was a really exciting record when it came out, I'm chuffed I got my vinyl copy autographed back then. Torment and Toreros (and the more instant Untitled) were your best mates, back then. The ones you got drunk with the first time, had sex with the first time, the first STD, the throwing-up, the unrequited loves, being beaten up for being different - this was the mate that got you into trouble when you didn't need it and gave you a comforting hug when you did. This was a brave record to make - it's pop, punk, goth, cabaret and torch all rolling around drunk on the floor and living the life. Can't say enough good words about this album. (In)Famous for being the 'nervous breakdown' on vinyl release, it's definitely not for the lighthearted!
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8 of 8 people found the following review helpful By Simply Stev0 on 31 Jan. 2009
Format: Audio CD
I must agree with Andreas. My first ever record purchased with my own pocket money was soft cell, non stop erotic cabaret. As I was only young in 1981 when that LP (yes we still called them LP's in those days), I was very alert to the pop charts and became a massive Marc Almond fan. Even so though, this album completely passed me by as did the other album of the same ilk called 'untitled'. I was so excited to listen to it but nothing could prepare me for what was about to hit me.

Truly this album is one of absolute beauty in a very hard edged way. It really is Marc at his writing best. To this very day, some 26 years later [yes it is that old] I still have this album on my Ipod. I listen to it when I am happy and when I am sad. The latter mood is definately perfect for this record. A darkened room and the music loud will give you the best results.

Very very difficult to like at first although some tracks will catch your heart immediately. Once grabbed and listened to often, you will find it will rip your heart out as the music and lyrics have emotions like no other songs seem to have any more.

The moral of this tale is that even a massive Marc fan struggled with this record at first. If you are not a huge fan and are taking your first steps in to this amazing artists work, you WILL struggle with this album.

Buy it though , you owe it to yourself but also grab mother fist for some beautiful but easy to love tunes.

From mother fist, work your way over to violent silence. Violent silence is hailed as his ultimate writing peak. Very odd topic but reading the cover will prepare you for the sexually fuelled topic. The delivery of those songs and the lyrics are just simply breathtaking.

Everything else is easy running for the dabbler.

hope this mini review helps you in some way.
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful By Andreas Stavros on 29 Aug. 2008
Format: Audio CD
This extraordinary trawl through life's darker side is about to be re-released, with extras, though the wonderful extended version of Black Heart is still inexplicably missing.

Briefly put, Torment and Toreros is one of the best musical experiences I've ever had, though by no means one of the easiest. This is music for grown-ups - no snappy toe-tappers here. It's moody, difficult, angst-laden listening...and totally emotionally absorbing. Flamenco influences abound, along with a bit of Scott Walker hither...a dollop of Bizet thither...a slice of Brel...a smack of experimentation and musical mutation. Even when it doesn't quite come together, it's still interesting. Even when it doesn't quite work, it somehow does.

If you're new to Marc Almond's solo work, this probably isn't the place to start indulging...and yet, it somehow sets the tone for most of his subsequent efforts. Albums like The Stars We Are, Enchanted, and Mother Fist are certainly terrific and contain many similar traits; but they're popped-up versions of the content here. This pays no heed whatsoever to what the listener may or may not like. It is a group of creative people acting instinctively and full-bloodedly, with no concern for commerciality and chart-success. (How refreshing!) It's also interesting to ponder whether such an album would even be released today - at least by a mainstream "pop star", as Marc was in the early 80s.

Anyway, Torment and Toreros is one of the best records ever made. Why it isn't hailed as such will be obvious from the first listen, though no less unjust because of it.
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16 of 18 people found the following review helpful By Jason Parkes #1 HALL OF FAME on 20 Oct. 2002
Format: Audio CD
Torment & Toreros was the double album that quickly followed up the equally bleak The Art of Falling Apart by Soft Cell. The Mambas had become a loose collective to aid & abet Marc's breakdown. Definitly one of those albums like Berlin, Third/Sister Lovers, All Shook Down, In Utero, Tonight's The Night/Time Fades Away/On the Beach and Music for a New Society.
This reissue keeps the format of the original double album from 1983, though the absence of the b-sides, particularly Your Aura (one of Almond's finest moments) is irritating.
Disc One opens with Boss Cat, which is good goth fun and fits in the same world as The Cure's Lovecats and proof that Drugs and Disney soundtracks can mix! A sarcastic cover of Brel's The Bulls is next, there is a better version on 1990's Jacques. Catch a Fallen Star (title courtesy of Perry Como!) is cut from the same cloth as Angels and The Art of Falling Apart. The Animal in You is in Banshees terrain. Next up is a compentent cover of In My Room (Marc wanted to be Scott Walker, which was helpful as Scott no longer did) and the sublime First Time. (Your Love is a )Lesion is bleak stuff with Bad Seeds/Swans style guitar. My Former Self & Once Was take us back to the dark ballads and are very strong songs indeed.
Disc 2 opens with The Untouchable One, before veering into the Lorca inflected Blood Wedding. Next up is the brilliant Black Heart single, one of the finest Hogan/Almond collaborations- proof that Marc could still do pop; pop that hurts...A medley is offerred next, the odd jazzy Narcissius, the bad luck song Gloomy Sunday (though Billie Holiday & Associates did it better) and Peter Hammill's Vision...Torment (co-written by Steve Severin/Robert Smith in Glove mode) is very Banshees and would be perfected on 1985's Always (from Stories of Johnny).
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