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Tim & Pete [Mass Market Paperback]

James Robert Baker
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  • Mass Market Paperback: 256 pages
  • Publisher: Penguin Books Ltd; Reprint edition (26 May 1994)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 0140234934
  • ISBN-13: 978-0140234930
  • Product Dimensions: 19 x 12.7 x 1.5 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 2,735,072 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Baker (Fuel-Injected Dreams, 1986; Boy Wonder, 1988) brings together two gay ex-lovers for a 24-hour swing through the streets and byways of L.A. Sex, drugs, rock-and-roll, and violence: the guided tour is sometimes smartly satirical, sometimes padded with endless pages of dialogue, mind-numbing instances, and predictable types, though a Charlie Manson riff livens up the finish. Tim, the narrator, is in the film business, and Pete is a musician: they have been alienated from each other for almost a year, but, in a "restored metallic blue 1968 Camaro convertible," they hit the streets in a manic prose style full of allusions to movies and pop songs. First, they visit Pete's mother, who works for an ultra-homophobic right-wing congressman; they find the politician having sex with the mother, whereupon Pete tries to punch him out. Then at an AA clubhouse they meet Carol C., a Manson girl, and later in Long Beach a transsexual. Some of this nightlife oddball tour is interesting, but some of it tries too hard for effect, whether for laughs, outrage, or explosiveness. And there are far too many flashbacks and far too much riposting between the two ex-lovers ("You're a toxic person for me, Tim"). Finally, there's too much insufficiently dramatized anger at almost anyone who isn't gay, mostly attributed to Pete, though the radical rhetoric can come from any quarter and eventually takes over the plot - in the form of graphic S&M fantasies and secondary characters who intend to kidnap, first, an anti-AIDS homophobic comic, then Reagan and Bush. It all gets a little muddy and delirious at the end, as though Baker wanted a movie climax for his road saga. Still, despite the excesses and overall shapelessness: some antic instances and vivid nostalgia for pre-AIDS gay life, combined with a pungent depiction of rabid heterophobia. (Kirkus Reviews) --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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Sexy, gripping, and utterly unrepressed, Tim and Pete is a freewheeling symposium on the themes of sex, art, homophobia, and radical gay terrorism". A nihilistic joyride through post-apocalyptic L.A. full of love gone bad, bitter humor, AIDS activism, and sex, drugs, and rock & roll".--David B. Feinberg, author of Eighty-Sixed.

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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
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If one book should describe gay life in the end of the 20th century, this is it. With an energy and a witty dialogue, we get to follow the ex - couble on there ride through a USA poulated with extremes from right wing politicians to gay terrorists. Even though the novel handels a heavy subject as AIDS, it's done with such an brilliance and non-senitmental humour. If this should ever been adapted in to a film it would be the gay version of Thelma and Louise. Don't miss it.
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
Comic Rage: Viciously, Wickedly Funny 8 July 2007
By Gary F. Taylor - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
Known for his dark, often violent satires, James Robert Baker (1946-1997) had slowly success as novelist--until 1993, when he published TIM AND PETE. With a plotline that seemed to recommend assasination of a host of then-living politicians and religious leaders, the book put panties in a twist from one end of the country to another. In the wake of the flap, Baker found it virtually impossible to find a publisher for his later works. Over the course of the next few years he sank into profound depression and committed suicide.

Tim and Pete are two gay men living in the Los Angeles of the early 1990s. Both have lived through the sexual revolution, gay liberation, the rise of AIDS, and most recently the Los Angeles riots of 1992. They have also broken up. Six months later, Tim finds himself reluctantly trapped into a Memorial Day weekend date--and when it goes awry he turns to Pete, who he still loves, for help. Their reunion touches twenty-four hours of bickering, making up, accidental drug use, a tour of post-riot Los Angeles, recollections of the pre-AIDS world, and the discovery that even more friends have now died of the disease.

It is AIDS that fuels the novel, and if the book has a flaw it is that Baker takes one's knowledge of the politics that swirled around the epidemic for granted. As the epidemic emerged, Republicans and their fundamentalist Christian allies had a very distinct tendency to offer a smug "let the homosexuals die" smile. The Reagan Administration was particularly horrific in this regard, and Tim, Pete, and their various friends are acutely aware of it. They respond in kind: if they don't care if we die, why should we care if they do?

The book is chock full of brutal, grotesque, and hilariously funny conversations in which the characters imagine how much they would like to see such individuals as Pat Robertson and Jesse Helms meet the sword in particularly brutal and highly public ways--fits of revenge fantasy that Tim and Pete, although boiling with anger and frustration, do not take literally. But then the novel takes a chilling turn: they stumble into a group of radical, HIV-infected homosexuals who are determined to take the next step, and their targets are no less than former president Ronald Reagan and wife Nancy.

Clearly this is not a book that will greatly appeal to Republicans, Southern Baptists, or the-then emerging neo-cons who find themselves in Baker's crosshairs. It is worth mentioning, however, that neither does Baker paint the gay community in a particularly flattering light: in a very real sense they emerge as ineffective, self-absorbed, and superficial. Funny though it may be, it's pretty bitter stuff. But Baker had the gift. As the novel goes from escapade to another it twists you from laugh-out-loud hilarity (I can think of few books that have made me laugh as hard as this one) to sudden dismay and back again, riccoheting from one subject to another, cuting first with one side of the blade and then the next.

TIM AND PETE provoked such outrage in 1993 that it went out of print very quickly. More than a decade later, it and Baker's other novels are slowly but surely enjoying rising admiration by critics and the reading public and the book is available once more. It's strong stuff, no doubt about it, but it is more than worth the effort of latching onto a copy. Recommended.

GFT, Amazon Reviewer
6 of 7 people found the following review helpful
An interesting read but a little dated, and over the top 2 Nov 2005
By W. Patton - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Hardcover|Amazon Verified Purchase
This was my second book by James Robert Baker, so obviously there was something in the first book I read by him (Testosterone) that made me want to know more of his work. I think with this one I've had my fill. If this and Testosterone are two of his best works, I've had enough.(btw, I thought Testosterone much the better of the two.)

What is interesting about this book was the way Baker described the 80's and 90's and an era of AIDS angst in southern California. He does capture the mood and the anger that were 'out there' in the gay community in the Regan and early Bush (the pappa) years (I am ten years younger than Baker and was living in Los Angeles in the same time.) So from that perspective the book was a time capsule. But what was overly annoying were the overdrawn situations and the relationship of Time and Pete. It just didin't ring true to me. What did ring true was the anger and the over-the-top obsessive / compusiveness of the protagonist Tim (clearly drawn from Baker's own life experience). It is sad (but not surprising after reading these books) to learn that Baker committed suicide in 1997 at age 51. He was clearly a man with lots of issues on many levels. And a lot of the issues Baker deals with are not different than issues gay men deal with today (HIV, aging, the superficiality of many gay communiites). Baker's responses all seem so extreme.

All in all, the book has become a period piece of the days when Act Up and Queer Nation were out there in a big way, which is an interesting counterpoint to the passiveness of the gay community today. Also, one does wonder if Baker would have toned-down his brash and outlandish writing style with the advent of some maturity that comes with age.
5 of 6 people found the following review helpful
unforgettable 15 April 1998
By (Janet Blue) Hypogrrrl@aol.com - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Mass Market Paperback
I first read this book when I was fifteen, and five years later, I still love to read it all over again. It has never lost its appeal to me. "Tim and Pete" has the best damn dialogue I've read in a long time - it's sarcastic and witty, and you'll feel like you're living the characters' lives in no time. This book is funny and subversive, and has more than enough black humor to make a conservative person have a heart attack. I recommend "Tim and Pete" to anyone who's ever felt out of place or rejected in this world, be it male or female, gay or straight.
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