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  • Standalone game to Thunderstone
  • May be played alongside Thunderstone
  • 45 minutes playing time
  • 2-5 players
  • Ages 12+
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Item Weight1.8 Kg
Product Dimensions29.5 x 29.5 x 8.6 cm
Item model numberAEG 5015
Batteries Required?No
Batteries Included?No
  
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ASINB004NTG2SI
Best Sellers Rank 323,625 in Toys & Games (See top 100)
Shipping Weight1.9 Kg
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Date First Available15 Feb. 2011
  
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  • Warning: Not suitable for children under 36 months

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Thunderstone returns with Dragonspire! Featuring all-new art for every card (even Militia and Daggers), experience point tokens (not cards!), and the all new "Setting" cards which alter the game on a global scale. Dragonspire includes 18 new village cards, 11 new heroes, and 8 new monster sets.With enough cards to play the game right out of the box, this is a great Thunderstone addition for those just getting into the game.<P>Dragonspire also has a new storage box format, plastic XP tokens, and a brand new Dungeon board to help players keep up with light and darkness.<P>Thunderstone: Dragonspire is not a an expansion, but is instead a separate stand-alone game that may be played along with components of Thunderstone.

Box Contains

New Dungeon Board
Over 500 cards with all-new art
New plastic XP tokens
Eleven new heroes and seven new monsters, plus new village cards

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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful By matt486 on 3 Jun. 2011
The build quality of the game is very good. The box seems sturdy, allowing for the upcoming expansions, and the artwork is beautiful. The 'board' is a nice touch, and everything you need to play is in the box. One slight criticism - the cards were bending quite easily, even after one game. The way the cards are stored does not lend itself well to the use of card sleeves or deck protectors, so care should be taken when playing.

In terms of theme and originality, there's not much to go on. We've been aware of fantasy themes for a long time, and it won't surprise fans of the genre. The Party Building system is interesting; it's a new spin on the idea of building a party and going to war. But for those who play fantasy games there's nothing new here.

The game took a while to get going, but once it had nothing could stop us. We'd grasped the fundementals of the rules quickly and rarely had to reference them. The instructions could have been clearer at explaining exactly what means what; an index or glossary would have helped. But it's good not to have the pace of the game disrupted by having to refer to the rules every five minutes.

Is the game balanced? With two players, it was. The game can have up to five people, at which point I would suggest the ways in which you can build and upgrade your party become more limited. This will lend a competitive edge to the game but with all 5 players one or more people may find themselves out of the runnings.

We had good fun playing it, we really did. It is what it is - a great way to spend a couple of hours playing a fun game with some friends and I can't fault it for that at all.
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Amazon.com: 8 reviews
12 of 12 people found the following review helpful
Thunderstone's Second Stand-Alone 29 Mar. 2011
By Kevin P. "Enthusiast" - Published on Amazon.com
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This is not just an expansion - it is also a stand-alone set for Thunderstone. It includes all the cards you'll need to play the game (and more!). I have all the expansions so far, and have found each one of them interesting in its own way. The artwork in this base set is the first that isn't all by Jason Engle, and his art was a huge plus to the game. There are several illustrations on cards in this set that just make me say "Really?"

The quality is still good, however, and the dividers that come with all the expansions are awesome (way better than the beginning Thunderstone dividers). In true AEG form, they also upgraded ALL the sets Randomizer cards, and made their backs different colors so they don't accidentally get mixed in. (Monsters also have different colors from Heroes who have different colors from Village cards.) Also in this set are upgraded experience markers to get rid of the old XP cards. They are pretty fantastic, and for just being tokens, we have really enjoyed using over the cards.

As for the cards themselves, a few of them (Spoiled Food in particular, which does the same thing as "Feast" pretty much, but you have to destroy a Hero at the end of the round.) seem to be just useless. Some of the Heroes seem pretty neat though, Phalanx which gets more powerful the more Phalanx cards in hand (they only level to 2 and there are a LOT more of them) and Veterans which can level up to 4.

The box itself has a plastic insert that will fit all the cards from all the sets in it, though from other reviews I've watched if you have card sleeves on them you may need to leave out the randomizers to fit them all in. The insert is nice, but I don't like the ridges along the bottom because they don't make things slide well on the bottom. It's also realllly heavy with all the cards in it (clearly).

A new card type is included called "Settings" - kind of a Global Effect that is in place for the entire game. Optional to play with (randomizers). Some good, some bad, some in the middle, to help and hurt.

The last update is the dungeon board it comes with. This could help when teaching new people about Thunderstone as it lists the light penalties and what they are for each rank, but I'm honestly not a big fan of the board. The lettering is difficult to read at the bottom of each rank that tells you what the light penalties and attack penalties are. We were using an eraseable glass message board before that and could write it as large as we wanted.

All in all, the cards add some new aspects to the game that are fun and interesting. The artwork is new and (imnsho) not as good as previous versions. But I did enjoy the updates to the game (for the most part, the board isn't bad just kinda...meh). There are weak and strong heroes in this one, and light seems to be given to heroes or based on heroes levels more. New Treasures: Figurines are included, and are probably my favorite treasure yet. Each one does something different when it's broken, such as the Ivory Dragon that lets you destroy as many cards in hand as you'd like and gain 1xp for each card. Two new THunderstones, three new guardians, and new traps and mercenaries broaden the games base.

The Down Sides: I don't think it captured my attention as much as the first Thunderstone did. That may be due to the amount I've played since then, so it's not quite as fun with easy monsters (their "newbie" game has super easy monsters). It did throw certain strategies for a loop, though, and I found I had lost my first game in a long time due to poor planning on my part.

I wrote this review assuming people know what Thunderstone's about, if you aren't one of those people: Thunderstone is a deck building game, much like Dominion, where people create decks to gain Victory Points from the same group of cards. It has several more intricacies than Dominion (base set), however, because you're building an adventuring party to go kill monsters in the dungeon to regain the Thunderstones and put an end to the plague on the land. Go see Thunderstone for full reviews on it.

Personally, I recommend the original Thunderstone over this one for content, but Dragonspire over the original for pieces and quality of game play. Or, if you like to complete the whole set like I do, all of them. :) But really, best to start with just one of the base sets to make sure you like it first. ;)
5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
Good "dnd themed Dominion" 8 July 2011
By Amazon Customer - Published on Amazon.com
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Having played Dominion and viewing the online reviews I thought Thunderstone Dragonspire was worth a look. This is the first Thunderstone product I have picked up (having been encouraged by some online reviewers to start with this product in the series).

Age level: My goal was to find a game with which my seven year old could soon participate. I think the basic mechanics would appropriately exercise his math skills but the reading level and general complexity is still a bit out of reach. That said, the jury is still out on him figuring this out and enjoying it without getting frustrated.

Educational: The mechanics of the game, especially combat, require basic addition/subtraction with a fair level of mental bookkeeping. For example, in combat, you assemble your hand in some combat configuration, determine your attack score and light benefit, pick a monster at a specific rank/light penalty, subtract twice the net light penalty, and come up with the battle outcome. Each step is simple but managing the entire computation is right on mark for exercising basic math skills and encouraging flexibility/creativity in how to configure/execute your hand.

Game flexibility: I have played in competitive and cooperative modes. Both are fun and exercise different skills. I am particularly interested in pushing the cooperative mode on my two sons that spend 99% of the day fighting and going alpha male on each other.

Fun: After seeing some of the online reviews I was guessing the game would be a 3 or 4 star game but I was pleasantly surprised to give it a 4 or 5 star personally.

Box and general product quality: I read that the boxes for the original Thunderstone was poor but I have no complaints on this set. It comes with foam blocks that help manage the cards. The cards are reasonable quality and I think it hits the mark for the cost of the item in this style of game.

Relative to Dominion: Every review is comparing this to Dominion so I guess I should chime in with my two cents. Short story, I like Dominion and I like this game. They are similar but there are enough differences that I think this is a worthy additional to your collection. Thunderstone has two major "actions" you can take each turn. The first is to go to the village which is basically a standard turn event in Dominion. You can also go to the dungeon to fight. I think the mechanics of the "village" event in Dominion are more interesting but Thunderstone has to devote some effort of the village event to support the dungeon events so they sacrifice on the village portion of the game to support this other aspect of the game. I think the interest level generated by the dungeon events is an up-tick but the village style part of the game is a down-tick relative to Dominion.

Overall: If you like Dominion and have any interest in a dnd themed Dominion with slightly less interesting "village" dynamics but with an expanded aspect of fighting you will likely be very happy with this.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Great Card Game 20 Jan. 2012
By himmelsgrau - Published on Amazon.com
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My friends and I have played collectable card games, but the cost of those quickly became prohibitive. Enter games like Thunderstone Dragonspire with a shared card pool that everyone uses.

The game takes on average two-and-a-half hours for us to play, depending on what game mechanics we use (the more complex you make the game by adding in certain dynamics the longer it can take to finish). The time investment is occasionally demanding; however, the game is quite fun.

I'd imagine there are several tutorials available online, so I won't go over the rules in depth, but basically you are trying to build the best deck possible by using the gold value of cards to purchase and equip heroes to defeat monsters in a dungeon. There are a variety of cards that help and hinder your ability to do so.

The set comes with randomizer cards that allow you to really create a unique experience each time you play. Sometimes, however, the randomization can make the game either very difficult or fairly simple. The fortunate thing is that there is nothing that stops players from tweaking their experience to suit the time they have available and the difficulty level they wish to have. We occasionally do this by substituting cards that are not as effective against the monsters in the dungeon with some more effective cards.

However, we have also had fun playing "as is" and trying to cope with the difficulties that the randomization presents.

Pros:
1. Customization/randomization make for unique and strategic game play; a common set of cards allows players to have a relatively equal chance of winning.
2. The sheer numbers of cards provided add a lot of replay value.

Cons:
1. As others have noted, the cards get shuffled a lot. While they are reasonably durable, they are (in the end) paper cards that will show wear. We have tried to offset this by putting them in card sleeves, which can be found for reasonable prices on Amazon. Hence, the average rating in durability. I don't think the company did anything wrong, but still...

2. Time. The game can take a lot of time, depending on your schedule and how busy you are. We always have fun playing, even with only two of us (which is not something I can say for every game), but the investment of time can be significant.

3. I don't think the game is very "educational," but I didn't expect it to be. I have to think a lot about how to play well, but I wouldn't say the skills learned here are applicable to much other than games. If strategic thinking is "educational," then the game might be considered educational; otherwise, no.

Botttom line: Thunderstone Dragonspire is a great card game that is lots of fun and offers a lot of variety in gameplay for a reasonable price, if you can make a moderate time investment in playing it.
3 of 4 people found the following review helpful
Falls short of both the base game and WotE, but fun nonetheless. 19 May 2011
By Amazon Customer - Published on Amazon.com
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Thunderstone is my favorite deck-building game. I've played the original game and the first expansion, Wrath of the Elements.

Things I like:
New monsters and the new heroes are 90% good and original.
The Settings cards, introduced with this set I think, allow you even more variation on how you play the game.
An updated ruleset, which is almost worth the purchase price, given all the mistakes and left-out information in the first rules.

Things I don't like:
The XP tokens suck. They're little cheap plastic Thunderstones. Honestly, I preferred the cards, and have switched them out for colored glass pebbles.
Most of the village cards are ho-hum. I have a feeling they don't want to introduce new mechanics, Dominion-style, but the problem with that is they're running out of ideas for items and weapons.
Lack of Spells: There is only one offensive spell in this expansion. Would it have been too much to include a fireball-like card? Especially since this set can be played standalone.

As far as things that could go either way:
The board. Fairly useless and takes up a lot of space.
The new artwork is ok, some is better (iron rations) some is worse (torch).

If all you have is the base game, I'd recommend you buy Wrath of the Elements instead. If you have some expansions and you want another one, this will give you a whole new stack of cards to add into the mix.
1 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Nice addition or good starting point 14 Sept. 2011
By Tracy W Squires - Published on Amazon.com
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My family enjoyed the original Thunderstone, so this was our first add-on we purchased. This version can either be played entirely by itself or in combination with the base set or any of the other expansions. I personally believe that Dragonspire may be slightly easier to learn and is even a better set that the original. The new mechanics such as "settings" are a nice addition and the other cards are all balanced well against the entire pool of cards as a whole.

If you are looking to make your first purchase for Thunderstone, Dragonspire is a great starting point over the base set.
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