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This is Not the End of the Book: A Conversation Curated by Jean-Philippe De Tonnac [Hardcover]

Umberto Eco , Jean-Claude Carriere , Jean-Philippe de Tonnac , Polly McLean
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5 May 2011

'The book is like the spoon: once invented, it cannot be bettered.' Umberto Eco

These days it is almost impossible to get away from discussions of whether the 'book' will survive the digital revolution. Blogs, tweets and newspaper articles on the subject appear daily, many of them repetitive, most of them admitting they don't know what will happen. Amidst the twittering, the thoughts of Jean-Claude Carrière and Umberto Eco come as a breath of fresh air.

There are few people better placed to discuss the past, present and future of the book. Both avid book collectors with a deep understanding of history, they have explored through their work the many and varied ways ideas have been represented through the ages. This thought-provoking book takes the form of a long conversation in which Carrière and Eco discuss everything from what can be defined as the first book to what is happening to knowledge now that infinite amounts of information are available at the click of a mouse. En route there are delightful digressions into personal anecdote. We find out about Eco's first computer and the book Carrière is most sad to have sold.

Readers will close this entertaining book feeling they have had the privilege of eavesdropping on an intimate discussion between two great minds. And while, as Carrière says, the one certain thing about the future is that it is unpredictable, it is clear from this conversation that, in some form or other, the book will survive.


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  • Hardcover: 352 pages
  • Publisher: Harvill Secker (5 May 2011)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1846554519
  • ISBN-13: 978-1846554513
  • Product Dimensions: 14.6 x 2.2 x 22.2 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 328,421 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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A storming book. The next best thing to sitting in Umberto Eco's living room after dinner; a dream collection of lucid and fascinating discussions (Nick Harkaway )

Hurrah for philosopher and novelist Umberto Eco and playwright and screenwriter Jean-Claude Carrière, who have come together to praise the medium... Fans of Eco and Carrière will be charmed (Time Out )

As the conversation blossoms, the pair wander blissfully off topic into wider philosophical speculation about the nature of culture, for instance or humanity's curious relationship with past, present and future. And along the way there are plenty of pleasant diversions and anecdotes, taking in such diverse subject matter as Italian cinema forgotten French baroque poets, and the place of philosophy in contemporary European education systems. All this, naturally, informed by their love of books (TLS )

The dialogue between these two superbrains is freakishly compelling and covers everything from papyrus scrolls to e-readers... never fails to be enlightening and engaging... hooray for this brilliant book (Dazed & Confused )

This book is a reminder that the satisfaction of working through even a relatively short book comes in part through confronting digressions, dead ends and distractions: the hallmark of conversation between friends, not of Internet speed-reading (Wall Street Journal )

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The perfect gift for book lovers: a beautifully designed hardcover in which two of the world's great men have a delightfully rambling conversation about the future of the book in the digital era, and decide it is here to stay.

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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Two bibliophiles converse on books 30 Sep 2011
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What is an incunabulum? I didn't know and prior to reading the book I had the illusion that I am a literate person. I shall provide the answer later along with the number and criteria used by Umberto Eco for collecting his incunabula. Incidentally Jean-Paul Carriere also collects incunabula. The sole aim for the unorthodox introductory paragraph was to whet the appetite of the bibliophile reader.

And now to the review proper which comprise:information about the authors;what the book is primarily not about;what the book is, that is its nature and content;what is the basis for anticipating that the book would be a treat to the bibliophile reader.

Umberto Eco is professor of Semiology, medievalist, theorist, and novelist;Jean-Claude Carriere is a writer, playwright and screenwriter. In the body of the book I learned that he studied history. Intrigued by the fact that he co-authored with Guy Bechtel in the sixties a dictionary of stupidity (Dictionnaire de la betise - since reprinted several times) whom he met in the preparation classes for the Ecole Normale Superieure, I made a Google search and found that he is indeed an alumnus of this prestigious school.

The book is not primarily about a potential threat posed the book by our digitised age because as the authors readily acknowledge the future is unpredictable. The book focuses on the nature of the book itself and as such predominantly on our non digitised past.

To state that every book published to-day is a post-incunabulum is a truism given that 'incunabula' are all the books published between the invention of movable press in mid-fifteenth century and the night of 31st December 1500. The Latin word 'incunabula' refers to the 'cradle' of the history of the printed book. The Gutenberg bible was printed between 1452 and 1455. Umberto Eco possesses about thirty 'incunabula', though they include what are considered the 'essentials'. For instance, the 'Hypnerotomachia Poliphili', the 'Nuremberg Chronicle', Ficino's translation of the 'Corpus Hermeticum', the 'Arbor Vitae Crucifixae Jesu Christi' by Umbertino Da Casale (who became one of the characters in his 'Name of the Rose', and so on. His collection is very focused. It is a 'Bibliotheca Semiologica Curiosa Lunatica Magica et Pneumatica', or 'a collection dedicated to the occult and mistaken sciences'. For instance, he has Ptolemy, who was wrong about the movement of the Earth, but not Galileo, who was right.

The reader can trace in the body of the book the circumstances which prompted Jean-Claude Carriere to write his Dictionary of stupidity. In the ensuing I shall only cite a couple of gems I encountered in the chapter 'In praise of stupidity':We are never far from saying something idiotic - as we can see from this comment by Chateaubriand, of all people, talking about Napoleon, whom he did not much like:'He is a great winner of battles, but apart from that, any old general is more capable' or the truly inimitable:During the Restoration, the ultra-conservative Archbishop de Quelen declared from the pulpit of Notre-Dame to an audience of French aristocrats newly returned from abroad, 'Not only was Jesus Christ the son of God, he was of excellent stock on his mother's side.'

Fire has a special place amongst the worst censors in book history.

The Nazi bonfires were intended to destroy 'degenerate' books;naturally in an age of printing it is not possible to destroy all copies, consequently in such an era this act has the character of symbolism.

The Spanish in the New World were actually worse book-destroyers than the Nazis. They systematically destroyed Amerindian pictographs thus depriving us from a deeper insight into their culture.

Thedosious I decreed in 380 that the Christian religion was the single official state religion and in the process there was a systematic destruction of hieroglyphics. It took fourteen centuries to rediscover the key to that language.

But there are recent examples such as the destruction of the Baghdad Library in 2003.

The crusaders destroyed about three million books during their stay in the Holy Land.

Queen Isabel of Castile's advisor Cardinal Jimenez de Cisnera ordered the burning of all books found in Granada in the fifteenth century;half of the Sufi poems of the era burned at that time.

Both authors approach eighty and reveal on the fate of their huge collection of books after their death.

Umberto Eco owns 50,000 books of which 1,200 are rare titles. His wish is for his collection to be acquired by a single owner such as a University;it might be of interest to mention that his best selling book 'The Name of the Rose' was translated in 45 languages.

Jean-Claude Carriere owns 30,000 - 40,000 books of which 2,000 are ancient. He does not aspire to a single owner after his death and the fate of his library will be decided by his wife and daughter who will inherit it.

The erudition, breadth of vision, sophistication, and wit of the authors rendered the book a joy to read.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Learned Terrace-chat 28 Aug 2012
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One of the most delightful conversation books I have read since, well, Milan Kundera's chats on literature.
Carriere and Eco look at the book today from (almost) every point of view: past (incunabula), present (the book in the age of IT) and future (the survival of parchment before all else). They wear a weight of learning with a wholly agreeable lightness of being. I wanted to join in, actually: 'Signor Dottore Eco, don't we like books better than Kindles because they *smell* better?', on which not-wholly-facetious matter I would expect some amusing reactions. But then, since the authentic book is not 'interactive', my question must remain hanging ... This is ideal for the thinking man or woman's holiday, to read on the terrace, in a hammock, by the pool, early in the evening with (and yes, I hazard the cliche) une bouteille de rose to hand. Grazie mille, merci bien, Umberto et Jean-Claude!
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5.0 out of 5 stars Magnum opus with abundant anecdotes and knowledge about the nature of book 25 Oct 2011
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Eco and Carriere do not intend to make a great brag of books they read and collected (they admit that there are books such as `War and Peace' and `The Thousand and One Nights' they have never read from beginning to end, P.269). The key objective of this book is to encapsulate their views on a variety of issues pertinent to the nature of book which are both thought-provoking and entertaining.

To them, book is a medium for projecting the realm of human imagination. The value of book remains hazy with exponential acceleration in a cornucopia of new media formats in the digital world. However, Eco and Carriere strongly maintain that book is less ephemeral and more durable than other media formats (P.13) such as floppy disks, CD-ROMs, and DVD and likes the spoon and the wheel, it "once invented, it cannot be bettered" (P.4). They are not against information technology (Eco has a 250-gigabyte hard drive containing all his 30-year writing) but the current media formats can quickly become obsolete. Perhaps the use of cloud computing for data storage and group screenings can be a perfect solution if there is no chronic power failure and Eco does not mind wearing his pair of Polaroid glasses for unbroken onscreen reading!

This book involves knowledge and understanding of "book" rarely heard and known by readers. Eco and Carriere are avid collectors of rare and ancient books on human stupidity which reflect "the mentality and culture" (P.207) of the time. According to them, book collection is a solitary and masturbatory phenomenon (P.327) and they need an "eagle eye" (P.148) to track around the world digging up interesting bits and pieces at less than market price. The most fascinating part of book collection is the search process instead of eventual ownership. Unlike other book collectors who consider antiquarian book as a financial object, Eco prefers his books to be in hands of an occultist seeking to understand human follies after his death. Carriere abhors book sellers to cut up books to sell the plates for profits. To him, they are the "sworn enemies" (P.169) of bibliophiles.

The history of book is literally the history of book production and bibliocaust which represents a lengthy process of selection and filtering. According to Eco and Carriere, the whole process is rift with idiocy, bias, and other transient interests so that some books can survive for centuries whereas others are filtered out and destroyed. For example, The Nazis burned more books than anyone else in history (P.245) and Mao tse-tung invented the Little Red Book as an opiate to agitate people in participation of the dehumanizing political movement. Some of the magnum opus written by Proust, Orwell, Flaubert, and Colette had been rejected as utterly superfluous and nonsense by editors (P.199).

This is a very impressive book with abundant anecdotes and thought-provoking ideas about book. Some of the anecdotes (i.e. history of book during the pre- incunabulum) might be arcane to readers who have never studied ancient and medieval cultural history. The hypothesis put forward by Eco and Carriere that the level of a state's political power is highly correlated with the rise and fall of book and art production (P.105) is definitely witty. Eco and Carriere also offer a caveat to readers that books can teach people about our past but readers need to check facts and exercise their critical faculties while reading books. They cannot take everything up at face value because books can be "misleading" (P.173) and "reading for the sake of reading, like living for the sake of living" (P.279) cannot turn book reading into something nourishing and sustainable.

This book is highly recommended to librarians, archivists, bibliophiles, and e-book fans who are interested in western culture, history of books, and book collection.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Giants Converse 15 Mar 2012
By Peter Renz - Published on Amazon.com
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Have you wondered what it would be like to sit in on a bull session with two very classy and informed cultural icons? Read this book and find out. Umberto Eco says that the one thing he would rescue from his burning house would be the terabyte drive on which he has backed up all his writing. He is grounded in history and classical philology but also fully of these times.

This book is a series of digressions from the general subject of books, including comments by Jean-Claude Carriere about film makers and students he worked with and comments by Eco on teaching, students, and other scholars. Extensive verbatim quotes from published works suggest that Carriere went over these transcripts with care after the fact, and presumably so did Eco. These sessions were delicately guided by questions from Jean-Philippe Tonnac.

Interesting, informative and amusing - sometimes unintentionally so. Recommended.
4 of 6 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Two of the wisest men in the planet talking about everything 2 Sep 2012
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Two of the wisest men in the planet, Umberto Eco and Jean-Claude Carrier talking about an infinity of topics. From their love of books, they talk about life and death, the preservation of knowledge in future times...
They share with the reader anecdotes of their experienced lives, and tell example stories related to the topics.
It is a book to enjoy with pleasure. To read one page, stop, and think about it.
It opens 100 windows in your mind with every opinion or idea.

About Amazon: I am and I always will be against Amazon politic of selling books only in kindle format. This is an evident blackmail to buy its specific product. OK, it is one of the bests products in the market, but I am a defender of freedom, and this politic is clearly against that. It is the same as if Nike only would sell me its sport shoes, only if I dress Nike t-shirts and trousers. Or as if I buy a computer, and only could be running with windows, without the possibility to choose another operative system.
By the way: how is that I pay quite the same for the printed book than for the digital one... but I can not print even one page of the book that I bought?: MY book.
I am very disgusted with Amazon. As a librarian, as a teacher and as a book's lover, this is an attempt to use culture to monopolize the market.
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