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  • Paperback: 800 pages
  • Publisher: Dover Publications Inc. (25 Feb. 2005)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0486439321
  • ISBN-13: 978-0486439327
  • Product Dimensions: 15.6 x 4 x 23.4 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 1.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
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Elias P. Gyftopoulos received his doctorate in electrical engineering from MIT in 1958. He is MIT's Ford Professor Emeritus of Mechanical Engineering and of Nuclear Engineering. Gian Paolo Beretta was awarded a doctorate in engineering at MIT in 1981. A full Professor of Thermal Sciences at Brescia University, he is a frequent visiting professor at MIT.

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I cannot possibly explain how bad this book is. For a teacher or lecturer in thermodynamics, who understands it before using it, it is great.

As an introductory text to thermodynamics, it is awful. The explanations are not clear, and you will commonly find arguments of such intellectual wit and sophistication as 'imagine you have A and B, then A and B together, now you have A and B. Now, we can prove this, because we know A plus B gives A plus B'

There are no real world examples of what is being talked about and the language is commonly very poor and unclear English.

or anyone who wants to learn thermodynamics, do yourself a favour and burn every copy of this you come across.

I literally don't think words have been invented to show what a poor book this is.
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The only reason I bought this book was because my lecturer at the time, who is in fact the author, insisted that I along with the other 200 or so students go out and buy it.
Really, really don't bother. This was definitely one of the most frustrating experiences of my higher education, probably made worse by the lectures which were just as bad.

The one star is for the mild satisfaction I'm getting from writing this review and the knowledge that someone else felt my pain. Do yourself a huge favour and find a book thats written by someone who knows how to put the subject across.
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14 of 14 people found the following review helpful
An Intellectually Rigorous Presentation of Thermodynamics 27 Nov. 2000
By G.B. - Published on
Format: Hardcover
As a teacher I am greatful to the authors, Gyftopoulos and Beretta, for providing me (and other teachers of thermodynamics ) with this novel, logically consistent and enlightening approach to thermodynamics. I use their exposition as the foundation of my teaching in both my graduate and undergraduate engineering courses in thermodynamics. I start with an expanded version of Chapter 14 of the book. This Chapter gives a concise summary of the thermodynamic concepts that constitute the basic structure of thermodynamics. Actually, the authors have a paper, found in the Proceedings ASME, Vo. 266, pp 206-217 (1993), in which they outline their presentation of the basic concepts in a sequence of 10 lectures. In that sequence, as in the book, there is a seamless flow from one concept to the other, without arbitrary statements, or non-rigorous derivations and misconceptions, as in most of the thermodynamic textbooks. For instance, unlike others who insist on talking about heat from page one, in spite of the fact that the concept of heat cannot be understood without the Second Law, Gyfropoulos and Beretta introduce heat towards the end of their exposition of basic concepts, where I believe it actually belongs. The above paper summarizes the order of introduction of concepts which I copy here:
"System (constituents and parameters); properties; state; energy(without heat and work) and energy balance; classification of states in terms of time evolution; existence of stable equilibrium states; available energy;entropy (without heat and temperature) of any state (equilibrium or not) and entropy balance; properties of stable equilibrium states; temperature in terms of energy and entropy;chemical potentials; pressure; work; heat; applications of balances"
My experience is that with this exposition of concepts the students end up with a better understanding of the structure of thermodynamics and a clear mental picture of the framework of basic concepts on which they can attach the application treatments they subsequently learn. I share the entusiasm of the two reviewers from Blacksburg about the book and its presentation of the entropy and the energy-entropy diagrams and I would like to add one more element: the treatment of the concept of reservoirs and the resulting extremely simple derivation of the Carnot Coefficient.
14 of 15 people found the following review helpful
A Must for the Serious Student of Thermodynamics 19 Oct. 2000
By Michael von Spakovsky - Published on
Format: Hardcover
Basing their foundations of thermodynamics on a non-statistical view
of nature, the authors provide the reader with the first complete and
totally unambiguous presentation of thermodynamics. Unlike all other
texts which present thermodynamics as a statistical theory that
applies to macroscopic systems in states of thermodynamic equilibrium
only, this novel exposition by Gyftopoulos and Beretta shows in very
sharp contrast that thermodynamics is indeed non-statistical in nature
and applies to both macroscopic and microscopic systems (including one
particle systems) either in a state of thermodynamic equilibrium or
not in a state of thermodynamic equilibrium. This is not, for example,
simply a rehash of all the books on "equilibrium" or
"classical" thermodynamics, which have proliferated and
inundated the scientific and engineering community particularly over
the last 40 years. In fact, "classical" thermodynamics or
"thermostatics" is simply a special case of the thermodynamic
foundations presented in this text, foundations which also provide the
basis for the first complete resolution of a number of paradoxes,
which have plagued the scientific community since the 19th century.
These include, for example, the paradox of Maxwell's Demon, which the
authors resolve by proving that individual molecules have private
entropies just as they have private inertial masses and private
energies. Another, the paradox between macroscopic irreversibility
and microscopic reversibility, is resolved by the authors simply,
elegantly, and completely by proving that spontaneous entropy
generation (irreversibility) is independent of the size of the system,
i.e. it applies at the macroscopic level just as much as at the
macroscopic level. Though not presented in this book, the
complementary quantum theoretical foundations of thermodynamics, which
the authors have developed, lend further credence to the generality
and strength of the theory presented in this book. Finally, as
outlined in Chapter one of this excellent text, certain chapters can
be used for one or two undergraduate level courses while others can be
used for one or two courses at the graduate level. I personally have
used the entire book for three years at the graduate level and
consider it essential for solidifying the theoretical foundations of
our graduate students as well as for clarifying and eliminating many
of the errors and misconceptions, which have resulted from the
predominant statistical treatment of thermodynamics. Without
reservation, this book is a must for the serious student of
7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
A truly revolutionary approach. 13 Jan. 2002
By Peter Rezac - Published on
Format: Hardcover
If you are seriously interested in thermodynamics, you have to read this book. Most textbooks treat temperature and entropy as ultimately indefinable, while the definitions in this text are so elegantly logical that they will quite literally blow your mind and force you to rethink everything you have been taught on the subject. I recommend this book not only to students of thermodynamics, but also to anyone who loves science and was never satisfied with definitions of temperature or entropy. This is easily the best textbook I have ever read.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
A Richer and Deeper Understanding of Thermodynamics 18 Oct. 2000
By A Customer - Published on
Format: Hardcover
This book provides an excellent, broad-based, sweeping view of the science of thermodynamics, most appropriate at the graduate level. The authors' somewhat cumbersome notation should not take away from the overall usefulness of the text. My own experience with the book was in a graduate level course. Overwhelming at first, the material and approach came together nicely after the initial 6-7 weeks. By the time the course was completed, I enjoyed a much more complete understanding of thermodynamics and the underlying concepts fundamental to that understanding. Two areas in particular deserve special mention. Gyftopoulos's and Beretta's presentation of entropy is one of the most refreshing I've seen. By defining it in terms of availability in Chapter 7 (even before temperature is discussed at length in Chapter 9), they emphasize the general nature of the property entropy. Again, somewhat overwhelming at first, their treatment avoids the traditional Clausius inequality approach that typically yields the disorder explanations (chaos discussions and somewhat contrived examples related to daily life are common) that leave students so dissatisfied with their understanding of entropy. The second area most beneficial to a more general understanding was the author's use of E-S (energy-entropy) diagrams. The diagrams are an extremely useful aid for emphasizing the broad application base of thermodynamics as well as the "solution space" used in the study of both thermodynamic (or stable) equilibrium states and states that are not in thermodynamic (or stable) equilibrium. Bottom line, stick with the book & enjoy not only a richer appreciation of thermodynamics, but also a deeper understanding of its applicability. Just as the study of fluid mechanics logically progresses from the general, 3-D, Navier-Stokes equations to potential flow and simpler representations, this text presents thermodynamics in its most general form, rarely seen in other books.
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
Excellent book! 19 Sept. 2000
By A Customer - Published on
Format: Hardcover
This is an excellent book to learn the fundamentals of thermodynamics not in the traditional way. The statements of laws of thermodynamics are great. The words have been chosen very carefully which provides a valid definition for any system at any condition. Its Energy vs. Entropy diagram is unique and includes both thermodynamic equilibrium as well as non-equilibrium states. The approach to thermodynamic equilibrium using energy and entropy diagram solves all mysteries. As the authors mentioned in the introduction, this book is easier for a reader without much background in thermodynamics than those who have been exposed to the traditional presentation. I recommend this text for serious readers who really want to learn thermodynamics.
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