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17 of 18 people found the following review helpful
Format:Audio CD
Hmmm, I remember being very worried at the time of Ted Turner's departure from the band, fearing the end of the finest twin guitar sound in rock music at the time, but when Laurie Wisefield stepped up to the plate, at least on There's The Rub, my fears were quietly allayed as he demonstrated himself to be a gifted and versatile player and an ideal partner for Andy Powell. The album, although written with Ted, seemed to suite Wisefield's style, and throughout the six tracks the two guitars blend seamlessly, particularly on Lady Jaye, Hometown and the superb F.U.B.B. (yes, we all know the acronym by now!) Don't Come Back is the only let down, but regardless of this slightly throwaway number, the playing across the album is quite superb, with Martin Turner and Steve Upton never sounding better or tighter behind the trademark twin guitars.
Bill Szymczyk's production is flawless, giving the album a really bright and upfront sound and bringing out the very best in the band, and suggested a great future for them across the water as well as at home. I'd give it 5 stars if it was a stand alone, but........
The spark is simply not there for (or with) Tom Dowd on Locked In. He seems to be trying to produce a Muscle Shoals soul album from the efforts of a rather lacklustre rock band, and it just sounds like everything is imploding.
The material is tired and strained, especially Wisefield's blue-eyed soul contributions, lacking in any original ideas with no one track really standing out; the playing is still pretty good from all concerned, but Turner's bass sounds muddy, Upton's drums dull and flattened, and the guitars lifeless, and while Wisefield may be a nifty little guitar player he CANNOT sing for proverbial toffee. Give it 2 stars for everybody turning up for the sessions. So, one corker and one damp squib, and an overall 3 stars for the pair.
And oh yeah, a real shame about the cheapskate packaging.....
Bill Szymczyk's production is flawless, giving the album a really bright and upfront sound and bringing out the very best in the band, and suggested a great future for them across the water as well as at home. I'd give it 5 stars if it was a stand alone, but........
The spark is simply not there for (or with) Tom Dowd on Locked In. He seems to be trying to produce a Muscle Shoals soul album from the efforts of a rather lacklustre rock band, and it just sounds like everything is imploding.
The material is tired and strained, especially Wisefield's blue-eyed soul contributions, lacking in any original ideas with no one track really standing out; the playing is still pretty good from all concerned, but Turner's bass sounds muddy, Upton's drums dull and flattened, and the guitars lifeless, and while Wisefield may be a nifty little guitar player he CANNOT sing for proverbial toffee. Give it 2 stars for everybody turning up for the sessions. So, one corker and one damp squib, and an overall 3 stars for the pair.
And oh yeah, a real shame about the cheapskate packaging.....
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
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Strange pairing this - possibly Wishbone's finest album lumped together with almost certainly their worst. There's the Rub was their first studio album after Laurie Wisefield replaced Ted Turner, and is an absolute stunner from start to finish. The band sound rejuvenated after the rather tentative Wishbone 4 as they tear through flat-out rockers (Don't Come Back, Silver Shoes) cosmic folk (Lady Jay, Persephone) and extended jams (FUBB). Strong songwriting, inspired playing and great production combine to make this a stone-cold classic... But what happened? Locked In was only recorded the following year and is, quite frankly, a mess. With weak songs, dreadful tinny production and an almost total absence of their trademark lead guitar interplay, they sound like a band at the end of their tether. Thankfully it turned out to be merely a blip, and Wishbone came back the following year with the very good New England. So, 5 stars for There's the Rub - minus one for Locked In.
7 of 8 people found the following review helpful
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Many critics think that Wishbone Ash's finest hour was the 1972 album 'Argus' and thereafter they went downhill, which is perhaps a little unfair. 'There's The Rub' is a well written and well-produced album (Bill Szymczyk is the highly-regarded producer who also worked with the Eagles on Hotel California). The playing is also as good as anything on their previous albums. 'Locked In' utilizes the skills of producer Tom Dowd who is more associated with the records of soul artists, and the overall sound is different to TTR, a little funkier and with more of a groove (although I think the material is generally weaker). One important criticism of this band, notable on the two albums included here is that although they were excellent instrumentalists, the vocal offerings are very weak indeed, particularly on 'Locked In'.
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2 mediocre ash albums on one CD
Laurie Wisefield's admission to the band as replacement lead guitarist and occasional vocalist saw the Ash shift abruptly away from the rock-n-roll prog of their first four albums... Read more
Published 16 months ago by Mr. F. M. Havicon
Theres The Rub
Bought this album just for "Persephone" - saw Wishbone Ash this year at Shepherds Bush and they played this sublime track.
Published 21 months ago by Mrs S
A strange pairing
There's The Rub marked the end of the classic Wishbone era. Laurie Wisefield had yet to have an influence on the band's writing and performance, and the album retains the... Read more
Published on 17 Mar 2010 by taiaha
theres the rub/locked in
2 albums on a cd good value,a few great tracks on this like silver shoes,persephone,fubb,rest in peace and no water in the well.
Published on 8 Jan 2010 by road nomad
Oh Dear !!
Sorry but this release is a crime on two fronts.Whoever mastered the disc messed up possibly the best track"Silver Shoes"they faded up the audio half-way through the first note. Read more
Published on 5 April 2007 by Mark Andrews
Beauty and the beast
'There's The Rub' is arguably the last example of what made Wishbone Ash great, consisting as it does of six extended tracks. Read more
Published on 8 Oct 2006 by D. J. H. Thorn
It is possible to listen to Mahonatada of the guitar battle.
"There' s the Rub "is the sixth work eyes of the '74 year announcement.
"Ted Turner" to take charge of one of a twin lead in the former work secedes, and the member has... Read more
"Ted Turner" to take charge of one of a twin lead in the former work secedes, and the member has... Read more
Published on 3 May 2006 by mm
What a combination
Who put these 2 albums together. One album of sheer genius (There's the Rub) and a waste of vinyl (Locked In). Read more
Published on 8 Nov 2002 by M. Cassidy
Quality
Just to confirm that Andy Powell, Laurie Wisefield and Martin Turner do the vocals. Turner sings lead on this album. Read more
Published on 13 Oct 2001
Wrong People
I'm afraid your previous reviewer got it wrong.
It's not Powell and Turner on There's the Rub actually it's Andy Powell and Laurie Wisefield
exactly the same leads and... Read more
It's not Powell and Turner on There's the Rub actually it's Andy Powell and Laurie Wisefield
exactly the same leads and... Read more
Published on 8 Oct 2001
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