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There Will be Dragons (Council Wars Book 1)

There Will be Dragons (Council Wars Book 1) [Kindle Edition]

John Ringo
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"Ringo provides a textbook example of how a novel in the military SF subgenre should be written. . . . For those who have read everything David Drake has written or who may have wished that Tom Clancy, Larry Bond or Harold Coyle would write SF, Ringo provides what's needed. . . . Crackerjack storytelling."

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"Paradise Lost

In the future there is no want, no war, no disease nor ill-timed death. The world is a paradise—and then, in a moment, it ends. The council that controls the Net falls out and goes to war. Everywhere people who have never known a moment of want or pain are left wondering how to survive.

But scattered across the face of the earth are communities which have returned to the natural life of soil and small farm. In the village of Raven's Mill, Edmund Talbot, master smith and unassuming historian, finds that all the problems of the world are falling in his lap. Refugees are flooding in, bandits are roaming the woods, and his former lover and his only daughter struggle through the Fallen landscape. Enemies, new and old, gather like jackals around a wounded lion.

But what the jackals do not know is that while old he may be, this lion is far from death. And hidden in the past is a mystery that has waited until this time to be revealed. You cross Edmund Talbot at your peril, for a smith is not all he once was. . . .

At the publisher's request, this title is sold without DRM (Digital Rights Management)."

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  • Format: Kindle Edition
  • File Size: 880 KB
  • Print Length: 752 pages
  • Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited
  • Publisher: Baen Books; 1 edition (1 Nov 2003)
  • Sold by: Amazon Media EU S.à r.l.
  • Language: English
  • ASIN: B00BER04VI
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  • Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (10 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #9,635 Free in Kindle Store (See Top 100 Free in Kindle Store)
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10 of 11 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Slow to Start 27 Dec 2004
By A Customer
Format:Mass Market Paperback
I like John Ringo Books - he usually has a good, adventurous story with fairly reasonable characterizations. The underlying plots gradually develop and are usually quite sophisticated - all without being too 'heavy'
This one, follows the Ringo pattern down to a T. We are introduced to the rather strange world of the future, with amazing technology based miracles - and then these miracles are snatched away from us (and the characters) - but at least we know the basis for some of the things that will happen.
We get good character development - it is not long before we know who the heros are and who are the 'baddies' and by the end of the book the heros have won some battles - but the war is definately still in the balance.
The book itself was fairly enjoyable, but I got the feeling that really a lot of the writer's effort in this book, was to set the scene for the rest of the books in the series (this is why it only got 4 stars from me).
Howwever I enjoyed reading it, and I'm looking forward to the rest in the set. (not enough to buy the hardback though!).
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6 of 7 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Another really good book. 24 Feb 2005
Format:Mass Market Paperback|Verified Purchase
I'm coming to think of John Ringo as probably the best 'Sci-Fi Ground battle' person today.
His books are normally well thought out, with both some really good set pieces which are well written to boot.
Ok whats good?
I think the world he has created is genius, how humans, dragons, elves and such like could exist in a sci-fi world, the concept itself is worth 6 marks out of 5.
Now Whats bad?
I have read all of Johns soft back books and I'm starting to come to the uncomfortable opinion that when you read one you read them all. The situations and people change but the pacing of his books are such that you can normally tell what is about to happen, not by whats being written, but by where in the book you are.
The second problem with Johns books is I feel he gets partway through a book then thinks 'hey I can make a sequel out of this' as he done with the Posleen war books (the second book should of been the final one).
Be that as it may, he is now ranked second in my list of Sci-Fi authors (begin David Weber), and I will buy the second book in the series when it comes out on Soft back.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Too many long explanations 12 Jan 2008
By Z
Format:Mass Market Paperback
The premise is fine. A fall of society, how dragons/elves etc.. co-exist with sci fi. Execution is something all together different. Minor conversations between characters become long winded explanations to prop up the concept/premise. What is worse is the really annoying and highly contrived additions of medieval/fantasy expressions into conversations. Naye, me'thinks etc.. The only minor defense the author has is that the characters in question are reenactors ( future eutopia people who play live action D&D in VR and in life ). Even with that, far far too contrived. The baddies ( yes baddies ) in the plot are also very very one dimensional and poorly conceived. This thing had a lot of potential and was a great idea - but is over laboured and really badly put together. Will not be picking up any more in the series.....
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14 of 17 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Whoa... some great ideas in here 15 Nov 2003
Format:Hardcover|Verified Purchase
Well what can I say? After reading Ringo's fantastic "March To" series, I had very high expectations for this book. My expectations were realised for the most part, but although some of the ideas were really excellent, Ringo spent (in my opinion) too much time on them. A very large part of this book is given over to the technology of the net, nannites, AIs, and lots of other really neat stuff, but then when the Fall occurs, all this great stuff is pretty much irrelevant because without power it is all useless.

This is an End of The World story like no other you have read. Think Stirling's Island in a Sea of Time without the back-time travel, but apply the idea to the entire world and a Billion lost and frightened people. Reading about Talbot trying to set up a viable community without all the tech he is used to, reminded me strongly of Stirling's book about Nantucket. Making use of natural resources, training people to work instead of play... all great stuff.

The only problem I had with this book, was that nearly all of it is about setting up a new society. We hear about the Council's conflict, but it is secondhand for the most part. I wanted to be involved in the war a lot more... maybe that will come in the second book.

Buy this one, its worth the hardback price despite needing more conflict :¬)
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5.0 out of 5 stars Five Stars 14 July 2014
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One book in a great series.
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