- Paperback: 304 pages
- Publisher: Oxford Paperbacks; New edition edition (3 Jun 1999)
- Language English
- ISBN-10: 0192839454
- ISBN-13: 978-0192839459
- Product Dimensions: 19.8 x 13 x 1.5 cm
- Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars See all reviews (1 customer review)
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"Translation captures very well the tone and spirit of the original text. Does better than previous editions in dealing with the original text's disputed passages."--William T. Wehrle, College of William and Mary
"Marvelous! Excellent selection, useful and to-the-point notes....The scholarship is excellent, and the series format is very clean, clear, and easy to follow."--Michael W. Thomey, Ithica College
"The translations seem both accurate and very accessible to undergraduate students. The notes are particularly good and to the point, telling the sorts of things students ask. This text would be particularly good in a Roman Civilization course, because of Juvenal's social criticism."--Gloria S. Merker, Rutgers Univ.
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Juvenal, writing between AD 110 and 130, was one of the greatest satirists of Imperial Rome. His powerful and witty attacks on the vices, abuses, and follies of the big city have been admired and used by many English writers, including Ben Jonson, Dryden, and most notably, Dr Johnson, who described his writing as `a mixture of gaiety and statelines, of pointed sentences and declamatory grandeur'. Juvenal has been seen as a stern moralist and, more recently, as an extravagant wit, and is acclaimed for his vivid description of the scenes which aroused his anger. He coined the famous phrase designating people `eager and anxious for two things; bread and races' (panem et circenses'). Niall Rudd's translation reproduces the original style and metrical effect of Juvenal's hexameters. William Barr's Introduction and Notes provide literary and historical background to the sixteen satires.
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
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If you're reading Juvenal for interest fun or some such reason, this translation is the best in English - it has a good sense of rhythm, an alertness to Juvenal's poetic manner ...
If you're reading Juvenal for study, this translation is also the best in English. It is a great achievment to have captured so much of the subtlety of the original and transferred it into the new language. The accuracy and sensitivity of the translation is extremely high.
If you're reading Juvenal for study, this translation is also the best in English. It is a great achievment to have captured so much of the subtlety of the original and transferred it into the new language. The accuracy and sensitivity of the translation is extremely high.
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Juvenal's Satires
19 April 2000
Format:Paperback
Juvenal is best understood when you liken his satire to drama. You're actually not supposed to identify with the speaker. The satirist's harsh indignance forces you to be skeptical in the way you read, and the way you look at the world. Rudd has produced a good translation, and his preference for generalizing over historical specifics is helpful for most readers, though slightly prohibitive for the student. Adequate notes and helpful introduction.
Since Amazon insists on posting my review of Rudd's translation to Braund's Cambridge text, I must admit that I have not used Braund's text. The series, though, is consistently good, and Braund is a natural choice to comment on the Satires. I am confident from reading her other scholarship on Juvenal that her commentary is educated, her viewpoint modern, and her commentary very helpful.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
A gentleman's rant
12 May 2007
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These 16 essays aren't satires, in the modern sense of comedic exaggerations. Instead, they are serious commentary on some of the many failings of a time in social decline - topics that will often send a familiar chill through a modern reader.
Juvenal's complaints are numerous and well-founded: hypocrisy in general, physical and moral risks of urban living, marital infidelity, abuse of power by the military (were they the police?), abuse of trust by almost anyone, and more. Along with his generally gloomy outlook (e.g. 'The Futility of Aspirations') and incipient sense of persecution ('The Plight of Intellectuals'), one struck close to home for me.
'The Influence of Vicious Parents' repeats something both obvious and in desperate need of repetition. Children learn what they see, not what they're told, and the adult acts as the child learned to act. If only one quote from this book sticks with me, I hope it's this: "A child demands the utmost respect, so think twice if you have someting nasty in mind."
Although generally readable, it doesn't flow as easily as other translations I've seen. Profuse endnotes (about 40% of the book's total mass) address many issues of culture, cross-reference, and linguistic interest. I'm a general-interest reader with a deepset habit of reading footnotes, and often found the commentary more pedantic than enlightening. Specialists and scholars may appreciate the detail; I just found it distracting.
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Juvenal's complaints are numerous and well-founded: hypocrisy in general, physical and moral risks of urban living, marital infidelity, abuse of power by the military (were they the police?), abuse of trust by almost anyone, and more. Along with his generally gloomy outlook (e.g. 'The Futility of Aspirations') and incipient sense of persecution ('The Plight of Intellectuals'), one struck close to home for me.
'The Influence of Vicious Parents' repeats something both obvious and in desperate need of repetition. Children learn what they see, not what they're told, and the adult acts as the child learned to act. If only one quote from this book sticks with me, I hope it's this: "A child demands the utmost respect, so think twice if you have someting nasty in mind."
Although generally readable, it doesn't flow as easily as other translations I've seen. Profuse endnotes (about 40% of the book's total mass) address many issues of culture, cross-reference, and linguistic interest. I'm a general-interest reader with a deepset habit of reading footnotes, and often found the commentary more pedantic than enlightening. Specialists and scholars may appreciate the detail; I just found it distracting.
//wiredweird
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
Bile! Bile! Moan and Misanthropy
15 Feb 2009
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We don't know too much about Juvenal - likelihood is he was a not particularly wealthy Plebeian living in Rome around 55AD, but he did leave a bitter core of writings that will echo with the modern reader.
He picks apart the hypocricies and moral faults of urban Roman society in a manner that resonates clearly with the current boom/credit crunch metropolises: 'few can distinguish the genuinely good from the reverse', 'we are too quick to imitate depraved examples', 'so rare is the union of beauty with modesty', 'the people long for just two things: bread and circuses' (read today: reality television). Ha!
Juvenal's satires are not comic exaggerations in the modern sense - they are too severe and bitter for that - but they do fulfil the satirists ultimate purpose: to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable. Western civilisation has always been enriched by the work of a few lonely souls who chose to go through life as an embittered minority of one, rejecting the gravy train of an easy life and pulling apart the filth and injustices of the societies in which they live.
Juvenal was one of these people and he left a rich satirical legacy, a vein that runs through the likes of the great Jonathan Swift and Dr Johnson (and you can pick up resonances in Will Self, writing today). Juvenal's prose is truly writing that is for all time.
He picks apart the hypocricies and moral faults of urban Roman society in a manner that resonates clearly with the current boom/credit crunch metropolises: 'few can distinguish the genuinely good from the reverse', 'we are too quick to imitate depraved examples', 'so rare is the union of beauty with modesty', 'the people long for just two things: bread and circuses' (read today: reality television). Ha!
Juvenal's satires are not comic exaggerations in the modern sense - they are too severe and bitter for that - but they do fulfil the satirists ultimate purpose: to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable. Western civilisation has always been enriched by the work of a few lonely souls who chose to go through life as an embittered minority of one, rejecting the gravy train of an easy life and pulling apart the filth and injustices of the societies in which they live.
Juvenal was one of these people and he left a rich satirical legacy, a vein that runs through the likes of the great Jonathan Swift and Dr Johnson (and you can pick up resonances in Will Self, writing today). Juvenal's prose is truly writing that is for all time.
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