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Thucydides , M. I. Finley , Rex Warner
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  • Paperback: 648 pages
  • Publisher: Penguin Books; Revised edition (31 Dec 2000)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 0140440399
  • ISBN-13: 978-0140440393
  • Product Dimensions: 20 x 12.9 x 2.9 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 4.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (10 customer reviews)
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Written four hundred years before the birth of Christ, this detailed contemporary account of the long life-and-death struggle between Athens and Sparta stands an excellent chance of fulfilling its author's ambitious claim. Thucydides himself (c.460-400 BC) was an Athenian and achieved the rank of general in the earlier stages of the war. He applied thereafter a passion for accuracy and a contempt for myth and romance in compiling this factual record of a disastrous conflict.

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THUCYDIDES was born probably about 460BC. He took a small part in the Peloponnesian War when it broke out in 431BC. 'The Peoloponnesian War' is the only surviving source for much of the period that he describes. Some of the chronological inconsistencies have been the cause of controversy among scholars for centuries.

Rex Warner 1905-1986 was a classical scholar of Wadham College, Oxford. M. I. Finley was a lecturer in Classics and then Professor of Ancient History at Cambridge. He died in 1986


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Thucydides the Athenian wrote the history of the war fought between Athens and Sparta, beginning the account at the very outbreak of the war, in the belief that it was going to be a great war and more worth writing about than any of those which had taken place in the past. Read the first page
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8 of 9 people found the following review helpful
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After reading Herodotus I enquired about reading Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian war. I was told it was 'a tough read'. However I thought I'd persist and was glad I did. After just a few pages I started to admire the man, his insistance on facts and telling only what he knew. The man was hundreds of years ahead of his time, but don't let this detract from the story. The story of the great war between the two greatest ancient greek powers Athens and Sparta, is a brilliant one and is shaped by Thucydides in this work.
Through great speeches by great figures such as Nicias and Alcibiades Thucydides brings you insights into the way both sides were thinking before the battles.
Overall the work is one of precision but also of great drama, you find yourself willing the Athenians not to go on the ill-fated Syracusan expedition but knowing full well they will and they'll lose everything.
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"History of the Peloponnesian War" is, superficially, merely an account of a war that happened centuries ago, the Peloponnesian War, between Athenas and Sparta. Of course, you might think that the subject is trivial to you. After all, how important can a book like that be?. Well, if you were to think that, you would be enormously mistaken.
To start with, this book is a milestone you need to be aware of. Thucydides, its author, is very possibly the first modern historian. He tried to explain the causes of the Peloponnesian War, without reducing its complexity by saying that the gods had motivated it. Thucydides doesn't follow the easy path; instead, he searches those causes in human nature, and in power. He doesn't weave tales, but tries to write History.

It is rather astonishing how objective this Athenian was when he analyzed the war, and all that happened immediately before it. He examines methodically many events, paying special attention to facts. The author also gives his opinion from time to time, but he doesn't judge whether an action is good or evil: he merely shows that those that have power can use it as they see fit. Due to that, Thucydides is called by many the first realist theoretician. I was especially taken aback by how well he expresses his ideas regarding the fact that "power makes right" in the Melian debate. I don't agree with him, but I cannot deny that he makes a powerful case, and that his point of view is shared nowadays by many noteworthy thinkers.

It is important to point out that in "History of the Peloponnesian War" you will find a painstaking account of many things that actually happened, but also some speeches that weren't made by the actors, but could have been made by them. To explain that more clearly: Thucydides wrote some political dialogues and monologues that allow us to understand some aspects of the conflict (and many of his ideas) better. The introduction to this edition also highlights that the author sometimes made up some of the speeches (from the data he had), and was present when others were pronounced. My favorite speech is the one made by Pericles, in honor of the men who died during the war. In that discourse, he explains why those men fought and died to defend Athens, and what Athens meant not only for Athenians but also for Greece.

This book isn't easy to read, but it is well-worth the effort. The translation is quite good, so that will make your task a little easier. If you don't feel like reading this book all at once, try to read it little by little. The results will be the same, but you won't feel dismayed by the need of finishing it immediately.

Also, if you can, try to relate some of Thucydides themes to our modern world. You will find that easier that you might think, and it will make you pay more attention to what you are reading. You are likely to be very surprised, for example, at how similar some of nowaday's justifications for taking advantage of power without paying attention to justice are to those that Thucydides already made a long time ago. On the whole, I highly recommend this book :)

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...there is one thing that all potential readers, particularly those seeking to learn about the Peloponnesian war, should bear in mind.

Contrary to the claim made in the blurb for this book, Thucydides' account is not by any means a perfect 'factual record' of the conflict. While it certainly contains much factual information, and is extremely important for better understanding the war, Thucydides is not as accurate as some historians might hope. We know that much of what he wrote was incorrect, and that many of the speeches he included were little more than creative writing, and as such the reader should always take care not to put too much faith in him.

It's also worth noting that, despite his "contempt for myth and romance", Thucydides' history is filled with tragic elements, and the events at Syracuse are narrated with particularly tragic language used.

Which, to me, only serves to make the book much more interesting.

A far less dry history than many might have you believe, Thucydides' works are a must-read for anyone with even a passing interest in Ancient Greece, the Classical World, or simply history in general, and this accessible version comes highly recommended - just don't believe too much of the blurb!

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this is the first attempt at historical objectivity
It is always fascinating to pick up what is regarded as a classic and read through it in a naive manner, not as a specialist but someone who just wants to learn. Read more
Published 12 months ago by rob crawford
The Sequel to Herodutus' Histories
From Thucydides' foreward in the book, he is a self-confessed curmudgeon. He insists that his book is not to 'entertain', but to act as an accurate record for future generations. Read more
Published on 18 May 2010 by Mike Sadler
A Must-Read for Persons in Power!
I first read Thucydides' "History of the Peloponnesian War" in the sixties, when the Cold War was fast simmering towards a boiling point. Read more
Published on 26 Mar 2010 by F. S. L'hoir
The father of modern history?
Far too often, Herodotus takes this title, and it really should be applied to Thucydides rather than him. Read more
Published on 8 Jun 2006 by Laconfiraux
A perfect publication for the non-professional reader
The History of the Peloponnesian War is an incredible book. Not only an amazing story, but probably the best text for the study of International Relations ever written. Read more
Published on 6 Dec 2005
Man's greatest work of history
Thucydides masterpiece is a book without equal in its era. Though it lacks the fantastical and quaint explanations of Herodotus, with all his diversionary stories and charm, the... Read more
Published on 11 Jan 2004 by Tim Sherwin
The story of how an empire was lost through stupidity.
Thucydides is an unforgiving historian, who seems to hold all of Athens in equal contempt, with the exception of Perecles and, strangely, the turncoat Alcibiades. Read more
Published on 6 Nov 1999
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