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78 of 81 people found the following review helpful
Good, but new remasters a wash -- ended up preferring another big set 23 Jan 2011
By T. Fisher - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
Update: August 6, 2011. I originally wrote this review in pre-release based on public sources regarding the recordings, tracks and remastering information. It was released in Europe in January, and was originally due to be released Feb 15, 2011 in the US, but release here was apparently delayed until May. I jumped the gun and ordered it from France when it appeared the US release had been canceled.

This set has a lot going for it for people who do not already own these recordings. It features new 2010 remasters of the Beethoven symphonies on discs 1-5, as well as on the Brahms cycle on discs 10-12. But the remasters add little, if anything, to earlier releases. I do not have any of the Brahms releases, but I'm not hearing much of a difference on the Beethoven.

If anything, the new remasters have taken away a little bit rather than added to the quality. On the Bayreuth 9th, for example, there is not much difference at all compared to an earlier EMI release I have, but I did feel the former release had slightly better sound -- audible, for instance in the tympanies in a few places. On the other hand, the Beethoven Violin Concerto from Lucerne with Menuhin sounds better than on a previous EMI release I have.

Ultimately, I regret the decision to buy this set, because despite some misgivings I eventually ended up buying the mammoth release on Membran, Wilhelm Furtwangler: The Legacy. Having bought Membran releases in the past, I was, like many, quite skeptical about the quality I would find on their 107-CD set purporting to include at least one version of every composition Furtwangler had ever recorded.

My fears turned out to be only partially founded -- I say partially because sound quality is always going to be an issue of interest and potential concern on any Furtwangler set. While there are some recordings on this EMI collection that sound slightly better than the Membran release of the same performance, in the majority of cases I felt the edge went to Membran -- almost always because of EMI's poor mastering using overly aggressive noise control that also wipes out the high end. My review of the Membran includes a short statement or two of the sound quality on each disc.

In the end, I can warmly recommend the huge Membran set over this EMI offering. This is unfortunate as I would like to be able to expect more from EMI.

Indeed, since I already had a lot of the Beethoven on this collection, a major part of my original decision to buy this EMI set was based on my desire to finally get a copy of the classic four-disc recording of Tristan und Isolde featuring Kirstin Flagstad and Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau. In the end, the Membran version sounds slightly better than the Tristan featured here.

At any rate, here is a breakdown of the contents:

Disc 1-5
Beethoven - Complete Symphonies
Nos. 1-7 Vienna Philharmonic
No. 8 Stockholm Philharmonic
No. 9 Bayreuth Festspiel-Orchester
- The performances appear to be identical to those found in this release.
- 2010 remasters do not add much, if anything, to quality

Disc 6
Beethoven - Piano Concerto No. 5, Edwin Fischer soloist (from this recording)
Bartok - Violin Concerto No. 2, Yehudi Menuhin soloist (from this recording)
- 2001 remaster

Disc 7
Beethoven - Violin Concerto, Lucerne Festival Orchestra, Yehudi Menuhin soloist
Mendelssohn - Violin Concerto, Berlin Philharmonic, Yehudi Menuhin soloist
- 1998-1999 remasters

Disc 8-9
Beethoven - Fidelio, Vienna Philharmonic, Martha Modl in title role (from this recording)

Discs 10-12
Brahms - Four Symphonies, Hungarian Dances, Haydn Variations
Beethoven - Corolian and Leonore Overtures
- All from this set
- 2010 remasters

Disc 13
Brahms - Violin Concerto, Lucerne Festival Orchestra, Yehudi Menuhin soloist
Brahms - Double Concerto, Vienna Philharmonic, Willi Boskovsky and Emanuel Brabec soloists
- Both recordings found on this CD
- 2004 remaster on the Violin Concerto, 1980 (!) remaster on the double concerto

Disc 14
Mozart - Symphony No. 40, Vienna Philharmonic
Tchaikovsky - Symphony No. 6, Berlin Philharmonic. (Appears to be from the recording by HMV, a former EMI subsidiary, featured on this disc)
- Remasters are 1998 for the Mozart and 1993 for the Tchaikovsky
- The Tchaikovsky sounds terrible -- very loud hiss

Disc 15
Richard Strauss - Don Juan, Till Eulenspiegel, Tod und Verklärung - Berlin Philharmonic
Furtwängler - Symphonic Concerto: II Adagio, Berlin Philharmonic, Edwin Fischer soloist (Appears to be from the HMV recording referenced above)
- Remastering 1994 on the Strauss and 1999 on the Furtwängler

Disc 16-19
Wagner - Tristan und Isolde, Philharmona Orchestra, Kirstin Flagstad, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau et al (the legendary recording found on this and other EMI editions)
- Still the 2001 remaster

Disc 20
Haydn - Symphony No. 94 "Surprise", Vienna Philharmonic
Cherubini - Anacréon Overture, Vienna Philharmonic
Schubert - Symphony No. 8 "Unfinished", Vienna Philharmonic
Liszt - Les Preludes, Vienna Philharmonic
- All apparently from this release
- Remasters 1998

Disc 21
A new audio documentary, "Remembering Furtwängler". Quite enjoyable, although the tendency is to have a 30-second quote followed by 2 minutes of a music clip. The format will be quite familiar to anyone who heard the "Remembering Karajan" documentary EMI released on the web in conjunction with its big boxes a few years back, or the "Remembering Menuhin" documentary from that box set in 2009.
23 of 23 people found the following review helpful
The real deal. 23 May 2011
By Some Guy from Ohio - Published on Amazon.com
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Whenever there is a Furtwangler reissue from a major record label such as EMI or DG, there comes a chorus of critics the size of the Wiener Singverein shouting "you can do better." This raises the following questions: where can you do better, how much better can you do, and at what cost. The short answer is: on various import labels such as Audite, Naxos and Tahra, you can do marginally better, and it will cost you plenty.

The fact is, you just can't get a broader base of Furtwangler recordings, covering a variety of Classic, Romantic, and Modern orchestral works than you can here at this price, plus you get two complete operas.

While EMI's reputation for remastering is deservedly poor, the source material for this set is the best available. The majority of this set consists of studio recordings made in the early 50's. A studio recording in good 50's mono is going to sound better than a live recording from the 40's no matter how good the remastering of the 40's recording is.

There are also those who deride Furtwangler's studio recordings as not representative of his art or in some way less spontaneous and therefore inferior to his live performances. They are somewhat less spontaneous, but in exchange for that loss of some spontaneity, you get much better ensemble playing and a lack of audience hacking and orchestral gaffes - both of which can be severe in many of his live recordings. Also, these cough's, poor entrances, and questionable intonation become less endearing with each repeated listening. It is in repeated listening that the studio recordings show their worth.

In a nutshell, this is what you are getting:

Disc 1: Beethoven 1 & 3, Wiener Philharmoniker (VPO), studio, 24, 26-28.XI.1952.
Disc 2: Beethoven 2 (live, 3.X.1948, Royal Albert Hall) & 4 (studio, 1-3.XII.1952), VPO.
Disc 3: Beethoven 5 & 7, VPO, studio 28.II & 1.III.1954; 18-19.1950 respectively. The 7th has never sounded better.
Disc 4: Beethoven 6 (studio, 24-25.XI & 1.XII.1952) VPO, & 8 (live, Stockholm Philharmonic, 13.XI.1948).
Disc 5: Beethoven 9, live, Bayreuther Festspiele, 29.VII.1951.
Disc 6: Beethoven Piano Concerto #5, Edwin Fischer, studio 19-20.II.1951; Bartok Violin Concerto #2, Menuhin, studio 12-13.IX.1953.
Disc 7: Beethoven Violin Concerto, Lucerne, 28-29.VIII.1949 (as remastered by Testament); Mendelssohn Violin Concerto, studio 25-26.V.1952, Menuhin.
Discs 8 & 9 Beethoven Fidelio, studio 13-17.X.1953.
Disc 10: Brahms, Hungarian Dances 1, 3, & 10, studio 4.IV.1949, Haydn Variations, studio 30.III & 2.IV.1949, Brahms 1, live 27.I.1952 all VPO.
Disc 11: Brahms 2, live 7.V.1952 BPO (notes incorrectly say VPO), Brahms 3, live 18.XII.1949, BPO - the notes say 8.XII.1949 VPO, but that is incorrect.
Disc 12: Brahms 4, live, BPO 24.X.1948 (notes say VPO, but again it is the BPO); Beethoven Coriolan Overture, studio VPO 24.X.1948, Leonore Overture #2, studio BPO 4-5.IV.1954.
Disc 13: Brahms Violin Concerto, Lucerne Festival Orchestra, studio 28-29.VIII.1949; Brahms Double Concerto, live 27.I.1952 (Boskovsky, Brabec, VPO).
Disc 14: Mozart 40, VPO, studio 7-8.XII.1948 & 17.II.1949; Tchaikovsky 6, BPO, studio 25-27.X.1938.
Disc 15: R. Strauss, Don Juan, Till Eulenspiegel, Tod und Verklaerung, VPO, studio 1954, 1954, 1950 respectively; Furtwangler Symphonic Concerto (2nd mvmnt only) studio, 25.IV.1939.
Discs 16-19 Wagner, Tristan und Isolde, studio 10-22.VI.1952.
Disc 20: Haydn 94, Cherubini Anacreon Ov., Schubert 8, Liszt Les Preludes, all VPO, studio, 1950-1954.
Disc 21: Remembering Furtwangler (audio documentary).

So... if you are looking for improvements to what is offered here and money is no object, I would recommend the following:

Beethoven 3, live BPO 08.XII.1952
Beethoven 6 and 5, live BPO 23.V.1954
Brahms 3, live BPO 27.IV.1954
Brahms 4, live (same recording as here, but better remastering from a better source) 24.X.1948
all available as part of Edition Wilhelm Furtwängler - The Complete RIAS Recordings. An excellent Bruckner 8 comes with this set, and you really should hear his Bruckner. Also, the Brahms 3 from the EMI set is duped here, but in better sound.

Beethoven 9, live 22.8.1954, Philharmonia Orchestra
available here Beethoven: Symphony No. 9 (8/22/1954).

Brahms 1, live, 1951, NDR Orchestra
available on Tahra but no product link (search for it).

As a supplement to the above, I recommend the following other recordings by Furtwangler:

Wagner: Die Walkure [Martha Modl, Leonie Rysanek, Margarete Klose, Ludwig Suthaus, Ferdinand Frantz, Gottlob Frick; Wilhelm Furtwangler] (1954 EMI Studio recording; Remastered on Naxos Historical)

Mozart: Symphony #40/Piano Concerto #20/Serenades #10 'Gran Partita' & #13 'Eine Kleine Nachtmusik - Wilhelm Furtwangler, Berlin Philharmonic - dupes Symphony 40 above, but has other items of interest.

Bruckner: Symphony No. 4 / Haydn: Symphony No. 88 / Beethoven: Coriolan Overture, Op.62 / Schumann: Symphony No. 1

This list could go on. The wartime recordings from DG are interesting, but sloppy and in poor sound. You can easily find them on Amazon if you are interested. Try and get the CD versions of the DG sets, as the MP3 versions are not gaplessly encoded.
55 of 63 people found the following review helpful
Lousy! Lousy! Lousy Job 25 Mar 2011
By Mr. Fredric J. Einstein - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
I purchased this set from Amazon.UK and the remastering job is just awful. The clown who remastered (see his arrogant little presentation on YouTube [...]
these discs squashed all the dynamic range and life out of pretty-darned-good master tapes. I have LP issues of these same recordings released on EMI U.S.'s Seraphim budget label during the 1960's and 1970's and they reveal these recordings to be crisply recorded, with lots of room ambience, and excellent dynamic range, even though they're in mono. The 21 CD set (as well as the SACD's of the same material done for the Japanese market) sound just awful, like you're sitting in a telephone booth rather than a concert hall. These 2010 remasters are an insult to Furtwangler's stunning performances. Stick with the old versions from the 80's and 90's or try to find LP's from the '60's and '70's to hear the magnificance of Furtwangler's EMI era. It seems that the "remastering engineer" is more concerned with cutting off the high end with ProTools than he is in reconstructing a live performance on disc. Let him play with his toys and impress himself with his ProTools, I won't waste anymore of my time or money on EMI's crap. Glad to see that the company and their hack engineers are in financial trouble.

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