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The Collectable King Crimson, Volume 2 [Double CD, Live]

King Crimson Audio CD
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"King Crimson is, as always, more a way of doing things. When there is nothing to be done, nothing is done: Crimson disappears. When there is music to be played, Crimson reappears. If all of life were this simple". Robert Fripp

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  • Audio CD (23 Feb 2009)
  • Number of Discs: 2
  • Format: Double CD, Live
  • Label: Panegyric
  • ASIN: B000N2G1QW
  • Other Editions: Audio CD
  • Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 133,062 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

Disc: 1
1. Discipline
2. Thela Hun Gingeet
3. Red
4. Elephant Talk
5. Matte Kudasai
6. The Sheltering Sky
7. Indiscipline
8. Frame By Frame
9. Lark's Tongues In Aspic Part II
Disc: 2
1. Thela Hun Gingeet
2. Red
3. The Howler
4. Frame By Frame
5. Matte Kudasai
6. The Sheltering Sky
7. Discipline
8. Elephant Talk
9. Indiscipline
10. Neurotica
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Discipline! 20 Aug 2009
Format:Audio CD
By 1981 Robert Fripp had decided to form another band following his work with Peter Gabriel (notably Peter Gabriel, a woefully under-ratted album)solo work on Exposureand his proto-new wave band The League of Gentlemen (God Save the King). He was clearly wanting to avoid raising expectations or tarnish the King Crimson legacy so that initially this new band was titled Discipline.

Disc one here represents that bands' very first gig in a very small venue in Bath. It was a bootleg recording on a cassette recorder (not hi-tech at all) so the sound quality is not brilliant, however, it does represent a crucial period in the life of the this legendary band. Robert famously later described driving along and being visited by the spirit of King Crimson and it was then that he knew that this new band was indeed the new King Crimson line-up. This recording demonstrates, however, that they were playing Red and Larks Tongues in Aspic from their very first gig so I guess they were always really going to be KC but Robert probably just wanted to give himself the safety net of being able to say that this was a different band if it didn't come together properly. This is the sound of a band finding it's feet and so Adrian Belew's vocals are a bit ropey in places but as a document of the rebirth of one of the most important bands to arise in the late 60s early 70s Rock era this is priceless stuff.

Disc two is the middle, Beat, period of the 1980s King Crimson at the height of their powers. This is taken from an 8 track recording and therefore the sound quality is excellent. Everyone is on form and it is well worth having.
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4.0 out of 5 stars The Sheltering Sky 18 Feb 2011
By Fletch-a-sketch TOP 1000 REVIEWER VINE VOICE
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The Discipline Band and King Crimson (one and the same) play the Discipline album plus Red and Larks Tongues from the King crimson back catalogue.
The first disc represents Robert Fripp's First outing with his new band called Discipline, playing the music from the album, captured in Baths Moles Club in front of a small but enthusiastic crowd. The key word to this is atmospheric, you can hear a class band of musicians playing stridently, however the show was not recorded professionally so there are short comings sound quality wise though it still sounds better than King Crimsons `Earthbound' (also available on Amazon).
The second disc is a cherry picked concert from later on when the same band had morphed their name into King crimson and was taking the US by storm. This is a professional multi track recording and sound excellent. The set list may be similar to disc one but they are better ordered and played in updated arrangements.
A great set from Robert Fripp's DGM record label and a good place to start when looking outside of the core studio albums for something more and fans of eighties King Crimson will love this double disc set.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Two more collector's club releases 15 May 2007
By Grateful Jerry - Published on Amazon.com
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As with the Collectable Vol. 1, This is made up of two releases that were/are available through the band's website. These were originally done back when you had to have a membership in the King Crimson Collector's Club in which you paid in advance for a certain number of releases and then you had the option of picking which ones you wanted. The nice thing about them being released this way is the fact that now you know before you get them what they sound like thanks to the rating on the back.

The first show here from the Moles Club in Bath is from an audience tape and that might be offputing to some. However, being someone familiar trading concert tapes over the years(IE Grateful Dead, King Crimson, and so on)I don't think the sound on here is that bad. The band was still calling itself Discipline at the time and that's what you get. Early versions of what would become the Discipline album with the first live Red and a cool Larks part 2. The performances are a little rough due to the fact that this is this lineup's first performance.

The second performance on here from Philadelphia was taken and mixed from the band's own multi track recording(8 tracks) tapes. You get different versions of the material on disc one plus four songs from the Beat album. Given the fact that this performance was professionally recorded, I doubt many people will have a problem with the sound quality as it's superb.

The short, all the performances are very good to excellent and the sound for the most part is top notch.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars First live show Crimson played and one of the best "Beat" performances--mixed sound quality on one, excellent on 2nd 26 April 2007
By Wayne Klein - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
This two CD set documents two pivotal concerts by the 80's line up. The first concert features the band when they were still known as Discipline (before Fripp realized that this could a viable new version of Crimson)appearing at Moles a small concert club in Bath, England. The band performs material that would form the basis for their first album and recorded much of it getting out to hone their chops live. The performance sounds fair--it is drawn from a restored audio cassette so is presented in mono with limited fidelity. It still is worthwhile for some of the stunning, loose performances here. This is before the songs had been honed to perfection by constant live playing. It features the bulk of "Discipline" as well as two 70's era Crimson compositions "Red" (which would become a staple of this line up)and "Larks Tongues in Aspic: Part II".

The second disc is from one of the band's best performances during their 1982 tour (although I prefer their last show in Berekley for personal reasons--I was there). Capturing the band at peak intensity, Belew is on fire during this performance and the rest of the band follows him down that hot trail. Featuring "The Howler" (a song that would later be sadly retired from many live shows), the bulk of the second 80's Crimson album "Beat" and once again "Red" & "Lark's Tongues in Aspic", this was one of the four pieces best captured performances. Recorded on 8 track the sound quality varies from extremely good to excellent as it was pulled from the band's recordings and sounds much as the show would have sounded live. My only complaint about the second concert is that Tony Levin's bass is occasionally buried in the mix but otherwise the sound is exceptional.

Crimson biographer/blogger Sid Smith provides separate liner notes (as he did for the individual releases)for both in the booklet and they are excellent. I didn't realize that Smith never caught the 80's version of KC live (at the time he preferred the last incarnation with John Wetton, Fripp, Brufford and Cross)but he does confess that he didn't get into them until after they had split up again.

An excellent release and an essential purchase for Crimheads just be aware that the Moles show isn't perfect before buying. It's worth having because the performances are terrific. 4 stars for the Moles performance 2 stars for the recording; 5 stars for the Philly show and 4 stars for the recording.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A fascinating glimpse at Discipline and a great live performance 7 Mar 2008
By Joseph C. Helton - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
This second volume of Collectable KC gives us a fortunate and exciting glimpse of the very earliest days of a new King Crimson. Robert Fripp initially assembled these guys under the name Discipline, as if he was unsure what to do with these guys and where he wanted to go with them. On the first cd we have Discipline performing together as a group, for the very first time, in the claustraphobic Moles Club, in Bath England in 1981. The performance was captured off an original cassette recording of the show, and so the sound quality is very poor. However, we catch the energy and prescence of the crowd, feeling almost as if we were there, elbowing for space, trying to catch a glimpse of what new thing Robert Fripp has come up with. The band performs the new material with penache, but does seem to stumble some. The classics Red and Lark's Tongues are performed to perfection. We are fortunate that Fripp released this recording. I would have loved to have been in the audience. Just imagine how it must have been to hear this totally new King Crimson, playing this music which was radically different than anything out there, and different even from what the band had put out under different personnel in the previous album Red.

The second cd is a performance done in Philadelphia, PA in 1982. While a very good show, we do feel quite removed from the audience in this one, unlike the very crowded feel we get from disc 1. The performance lives up to the usual high standards of just about all KC shows. The sound quality on this disc is much better, having been made from the band's original 8 track recording.

Consider this a must for all King Crimson collectors.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Crimson History in this Collectable Set 5 May 2008
By Best Of All - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
The second installment in 2-CD sets of authorized live releases, the Moles Club gig from 1981 is truly historic in nature and the 1982 Philadelphia concert showing why King Crimson clicked on stage.

The Moles Club was the scene for Robert Fripp to work with his new group, Discipline, which later became a re-formed King Crimson. This is not off a mixing board, it is a restored bootleg recording, but is essential for any fan, since it shows the concept which led to the stunning album, Discipline, being tested in an intimate setting.

The Philadelphia concert was recorded about 15 months later, with the tour coinciding with the release of the studio album, Beat. This was a solid lineup - Fripp, Tony Levin, Bill Bruford and Adrian Belew - that was producing solid work in the studio and stretching out the sound in front of an audience.

The stage history of King Crimson is enhanced through this series.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars This Is The One... 8 July 2012
By Daniel Lisk - Published on Amazon.com
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If you are considering the "Collectable" series, this double disc set comes highly recommended. There are some fine reviews on here, so rather than repeat anything that has already been well stated, I will instead give my personal account of having first heard the Paris material.

It was sometime in the very early 80's, and before I had even heard the Discipline album, a buddy of mine came up with a copy of what is represented on the material from the Paris show. Yes, the sound quality was not great, but the mind-boggling music caused you to not even notice most of the time. They were calling the band "Discipline" at that time, and there were liner notes about "beating the bootleggers".

Years later I asked about it hoping to tape it (no CD recording yet), and was informed it had been misplaced.
I recall at some point that I searched the internet for a copy & decided it was so rare the best one could hope for was to stumble across a vinyl copy while trolling throgh used record bins.

I recently decided to check for it on Amazon, just for grins. Initially I didn't have any sucess, until I started looking at the "Collectable" series and was amazed to see it as a part of this 2-disc set. I was a bit sceptical that it was the same performance, but as soon as I heard it I knew for sure.

I don't know if anything was done to improve the sound, but let's face it, there's only so much you can do with a primitive live recording. However, as before, listening to the energy & brilliance of the performance caused the lack of fidelty to become almost unnoticeable.

The energy is amazing as this group of accomplished musicians run through what was to them at the time relatively new pieces of music and with apparently limited rehearsal. This was also a rather new style of music they were attempting to create (they didn't even adopt the King Crimson name until later). The challenging songs are performed with gusto, and perhaps the fact that it wasn't the hundredth time they had played them yet added to the many facets in evidence on these particular performances.

The Philadelphia show is great also, with more tracks and better sound quality.
I can safely say that with a few exceptions I would still prefer the fresh raw energy which was so pervaded the earlier Paris performance. The fact that it was a tiny room in a small club brought a certain dynamic as well.

In closing, if you enjoy the early Belew-era KC, you should definetly consider this one.
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