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The Avant-Garde [Original recording reissued, Original recording remastered]

John Coltrane, Don Cherry, John Coltrane & Don Cherry Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (10 July 2000)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Original recording reissued, Original recording remastered
  • Label: Rhino UK
  • ASIN: B00004TJ7X
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Audio Cassette  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 3.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 964,972 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
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Format:Audio CD
This is a very interesting album. Starting with Cherryco, the only original piece in this album, it gives the essence of developing free or, in the words of the title, Avant Garde jazz. The rest of the album consists of three songs by Ornette Coleman and one by Monk. The interpretation is fantastic and Coltrane's magic touch is evident. Cherry's solos are inspiring, more daring in a sense than those of Coltrane. With Charlie Haden on Bass and Ed Blackwell on drums this album is sheer pleasure. I was particularly impressed with Blackwell's cymbal and high hat work with an amazing livelihood blown in by the snare . For one interested mainly in free jazz however, this is the genre in its very early stages. Keep it in mind when you listen.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars 'Trane is transition, in the ascendant... 6 July 2009
Format:Audio CD
The New York Times jazz critic Ben Ratcliff once called this record "unspectacular" and to some degree he is correct when compared to other Coltrane records. However 'The Avant-Garde' is far more important in terms of Coltrane's career than the necessity of being spectacular.

For the first time on this record Coltrane is recorded playing the soprano sax, it also sees Coltrane playing with Ornette Coleman's group - Charlie Haden and Ed Blackwell - musicians who did not usually record together, who both give great performances; there are some truly blistering drum solos from Blackwell throughout...

Overall Don Cherry's trumpet is more expansive, more expressive, than Coltrane who at times seems hesitant and unsure of himself, and for this reason any fan of Don Cherry should give this album a thorough listening to. That being said, it is still interesting to hear Coltrane playing three Coleman tunes with Coleman's band even if Coltrane's playing sounds at times more guarded than avant-garde.

The most important aspect of this record for Coltrane enthusiasts is that `The Avant-Garde' captures `Trane in transition, in the ascendant, after the release of `Giant Steps' in 1959 towards the climacteric that was `Live at the Village Vanguard' in 1961 with his classic quartet, and this alone, is reason for purchase.
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0 of 4 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars disapointed 13 Sep 2011
By Mirek
Format:Vinyl
I ordered edition of two discs, and I received one disc. I do not understand how this is possible, to to does not notice such difference. Personally I do not command this position.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Important experiment; mixed results 2 Nov 2000
By Tyler Smith - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
While the lineup is intriguing -- joining Trane with musicians associated with Ornette Coleman (Percy Heath also makes an appearance) -- and some of the music compelling, "The Avant-Garde" is, for me, the least successful release in the saxophonist's Atlantic discography. In fact, it's a rare example -- one of the few I can think of -- of a session that might have been strengthened had another saxophonist taken his place.
That's not to say that "The Avant-Garde" is anywhere near being a bad album. On "Focus on Sanity," for example, Coltrane's tenor finds a groove with the bent lyricism of Cherry's horn and Ed Blackwell's remarkable juggling rhythms. Monk's "Bemsha Swing" is another highlight: a truly fresh treatment of one of the pianist's infrequently recorded tunes.
But the recording, to these ears anyway, often exhibits a strained quality, most of which comes from Trane trying to adapt his sound to the jagged, angular rhythms that Cherry and company were more comfortable with from playing with Coleman. "The Blessing," for example, Coltrane's first recorded effort on soprano, suffers badly in comparison with the later "My Favorite Things" and "Ole Coltrane," to name two examples. On "The Blessing" he sounds, for one of the few times in his post-1958 career, uncertain. The result lacks the lyricism of "My Favorite Things" or the fury of "Ole." He seems to be fighting the tune rather than finding its contours, as Cherry does.
An interesting comparison with this release is "Bags and Trane," recorded the same year, for the same label. In that effort, Coltrane, the "radical" often excoriated by the press of the day for his "undisciplined" and wild attacks, fits his sound with "mainstream" vibist Milt Jackson like a hand in a glove. Surprisingly, on the "The Avant-Garde," paired with other "radicals," Coltrane never quite finds his stride. It's another good reason, I suppose, to ignore conventional wisdom about musicians, ignore labels, and just listen for yourself.
I'd actually recommend "The Avant-Garde" more to listeners who are after really good Don Cherry performances. This is one of Cherry's best efforts; his sound is commanding on every tune, and he clearly benefits from his familiarity with Blackwell and Charlie Haden.
10 of 11 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars the best of both worlds? 11 Jan 2001
By Funkmeister G - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
Here we have perhaps the most respected saxophonist ever [there even exists a Church of Saint John Coltrane for his deeply spiritual liner notes to A Love Supreme] w/ all the other members of the most controversial & therefore underrated Ornette Coleman Quartet, Ed Blackwell on drums, Charlie Haden on bass [replaced by the slightly more starightforward Percy Heath of the Modern Jazz Quartet on tracks 2, 4 & 5], & trumpeter Don Cherry as co-leader. This is brilliant music that for some unexplained reason didn't get released in 1960 when it was recorded but lay in the vaults until 1966, just in time that Coltrane could see it out when he was alive. It opens w/ Don Cherry's compositon Cherryco, the main theme of which very much resembles a tune the OCQ were doing @ the time called Revolving Doors which I'm very fond of, & here it is a fair bit less frantic but certainly excellent still, obvious taken off in different directions [it's a good couple of minutes longer too], in the original liner notes it explains "Cherryco is one of Don's favourite tunes - he played it all through his recent sabbatical of Europe & North Africa, & had considerable success w/ it." The bulk of the album is taken up w/ 3 Ornette tunes, he himself not being present perhaps to give more space to John to do his thing. The 1st of these is Focus On Sanity [from the Shape of Jazz to Come] & it's a 12 minute version, taken further & given as much space as it needs, it fades out as if it could have gone on a lot longer. The Blessing is a charming tune, coming from Something Else!!!, Ornette's debut album from 1958, as does The Invisible which follows it, & the Blessing is apparently the 1st recording of JC on soprano sax, normally he was on tenor. The newer liner notes have this to say: "it offers a strong contrast between Cherry's solo, with its relaxed freedom from the song's chords, & Coltrane's anxious flights on soprano", there's also a noteworthy drum solo in there too. The Invisible is a fast, stomping, squawking kind of a tune, a lot of excitement there. Thelonious Monk's classic Bemsha Swing is the last song & it of course swings long graciously, as any good version of it would, of course Coltrane played in his group in 1957 so he should know it better than anyone. But the ending of it is rather subdued, basically saying this is a very good record but not as revolutionary as the title The Avant-Garde might suggest [although several of the Ornette album titles were bold statements that often held true], it is something that anyone w/ an ear for creative music should enjoy & generally it's not too brash or abrasive to prove a challenge, rather a pleasing listen. Unfortunately there was never again any recordings/performances of this supergroup.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars 4 1/2 stars. 1 April 2007
By fluffy, the human being. - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
i have a love/hate relationship with the whole genre of avant-garde jazz. if you happen to dislike the genre yourself, don't be put off by the title of this album. this is from 1960, before things became too heavily tilted towards dissonance, too offensive to the ears. all of the music on this album is quite accessible to the average jazz fan, and it's all excellent. don cherry sounds almost conventional here (unlike on the other recordings that i have heard him play on), and coltrane's playing is inventive and gorgeous, as usual. this was a hole in my coltrane collection that i just filled. and i am very glad that i did. wonderful jazz.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A treasure from the early 1960s 16 Dec 2008
By J. BURGESON - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD|Verified Purchase
"The Avant-Garde" was recorded in 1960, but it shockingly, wasn't in the record stores until six years later -- after the assassination of JFK and the British Rock Invasion. Maybe this is why "The Avant-Garde" never quite hit its stride, even though it was -- and still is -- way ahead of its time. The avant garde movement in jazz is arguably the pinnacle of the art form, and this record belongs at or near the summit. It features several of Ornette Coleman's sidemen: trumpeter Don Cherry, Ed Blackwell on the skins, and bass players Charlie Haden and Percy Heath. So, although OC doesn't perform, he casts a long shadow over it. Having said that, "The Avant-Garde" isn't for everyone. Even lovers of Giant Steps and "My Favorite Things" might find this material too advanced and "out there" for their ears.
5.0 out of 5 stars Perfect match of musicians 27 Jan 2007
By TR707 - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
Trane and cherry are the perfect foil for each other. As far as this type of music goes, this is one of the best albums. This is much like a Coleman album with Coltrane sitting in. The musical interplay on "The Blessing" is outstanding. It's interesting to hear Coltranes soprano sax here, the first time he played it on an album I believe.

This is a very important album in the history of Jazz, it is wort getting for that fact alone. Some of my friends who do not like Jazz, especially this type, actually like this album. If you want to explore the music of John Coltrane and Don Cherry as individual artists there are some better choices though. Like most of the music Coltrane was involved with he makes a very bold musical statement. Also a nice version of "Bemsha Swing".
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